Tsunade At Best High Jounin Level?

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you seem kind of mad bro take a chill pill or play call of duty:cool:
naruto in v2 fox mode like bee was in when he fighting kisame can offer protection from harm and death
doesnt kabuto specialize in medical ninjutsu too ?
im a troll or hater? uhhh nty your the one who sounds mad bra:shrug:

some plp may forget at time this is a naruto forum so i remind them sometimes is that a problem for you? if so then go cry to a admin about it
this is logical? ive been backing up what ive been saying since yesterday with reasoning and logic.
yes i know kishi made her hokage he is the author?
build a bridge? not really a construction worker :shrug:
i can get over it shes a fictional character your the one who seems mad bro if you want to continue this we can do it 2 marrow because f1nix said he was going to make a thread about tsuande so you and me can settle it their.
I agree charles, why they mad u only tellin the truth
 

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I agree charles, why they mad u only tellin the truth
i know i am im not trolling either iv been backing what i got to say sinice yesterday yes shes good in medical ninjutsu but so is kabuto but shes probably better tho im basically saying she hasnt done nothing to be considered hokage or she hasnt shown nothing impressive
 

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I understand your opinion. It's strongly against Tsunade of being Hokage. You feel that Tsunade is not fit for Hokage because she doesn't fit the requirements for fighting S-Level Shinobi or standing her ground in battle, such as Pain Arc. In all your arguments you have stated that Kakashi fits the requirements because he posses the needed skills and abilities that can dominate the battle of any Ninja and also Tsunade. I can't agree or disagree because it's your opinion, but what does that have to do with Tsunade role of being Hokage (Or Kage)?


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Also, from what I see Hokage is just a "Title." Sannin is just a "Title." Jounin is just a "Title" and so on. Being Rank by categories doesn't make a difference. The Ranking scale can vary over the years (Manga Chapters/Pages) do to age, battle experience, screen time, Manga sketches (Plot), etc. All-in-all, she is still skilled no matter the Rank, but wait, it does matter. I guess I was wrong. The Third Hokage states this himself:

"THE VILLAGE IS ALSO DIVIDED BASED ON SKILL. STARTING WITH ME (Hokage or Kage)....." - The Third Hokage
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She was chosen by the Elders because of her skills, abilities, reputation from being a Sannin. These is the same reason why Kakashi was chosen and during the that time why he was selected. The Hokage was unable to lead the village doing their time in office because of an certain incident:

Tsunade





This talks happen after the Third Hokage's death and before Itachi battle with Kakashi.

Kakashi

This talk happen during Tsunade time in the coma.

Besides, being Kage is just added responsibility and that Kakashi seems that he couldn't handle:

"AND HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK I'M SUITED FOR THE POSITION. IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, YOUR PRESENCE WILL BE A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE THAN MINE" ~ Kakashi
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Dude, face the facts, Tsunade is Hokage (Or Kage) and Kakashi is Jounin (or Veteran Jounin as I call it). The Battle between the two and determine their skill is your opinion and others. You can not change other opinions. If you choose not to face that facts than I truly feel ...... I can't, No. It has been too many pages of post to prove you wrong, such as ReeceP's "Great Wall of text" which you fail to provide counters of a good argument because of your failure to understand or pride.
 
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I understand your opinion. It's strongly against Tsunade of being Hokage. You feel that Tsunade is not fit for Hokage because she doesn't fit the requirements for fighting S-Level Shinobi or standing her ground in battle, such as Pain Arc. In all your arguments you have stated that Kakashi fits the requirements because he posses the needed skills and abilities that can dominate the battle of any Ninja and also Tsunade. I can't agree or disagree because it's your opinion, but what does that have to do with Tsunade role of being Hokage (Or Kage)?


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Also, from what I see Hokage is just a "Title." Sannin is just a "Title." Jounin is just a "Title" and so on. Being Rank by categories doesn't make a difference. The Ranking scale can vary over the years (Manga Chapters/Pages) do to age, battle experience, screen time, Manga sketches (Plot), etc. All-in-all, she is still skilled no matter the Rank, but wait, it does matter. I guess I was wrong. The Third Hokage states this himself:

"THE VILLAGE IS ALSO DIVIDED BASED ON SKILL. STARTING WITH ME (Hokage or Kage)....." - The Third Hokage
Link:

She was chosen by the Elders because of her skills, abilities, reputation from being a Sannin. These is the same reason why Kakashi was chosen and during the that time why he was selected. The Hokage was unable to lead the village doing their time in office because of an certain incident:

Tsunade





This talks happen after the Third Hokage's death and before Itachi battle with Kakashi.

Kakashi

This talk happen during Tsunade time in the coma.

Besides, being Kage is just added responsibility and that Kakashi seems that he couldn't handle:

"AND HONESTLY, I DON'T THINK I'M SUITED FOR THE POSITION. IN SITUATIONS LIKE THIS, YOUR PRESENCE WILL BE A LOT MORE EFFECTIVE THAN MINE" ~ Kakashi
Link:


Dude, face the facts, Tsunade is Hokage (Or Kage) and Kakashi is Jounin (or Veteran Jounin as I call it). The Battle between the two and determine their skill is your opinion and others. You can not change other opinions. If you choose not to face that facts than I truly feel ...... I can't, No. It has been too many pages of post to prove you wrong, such as ReeceP's "Great Wall of text" which you fail to provide counters of a good argument because of your failure to understand or pride.
nice post i respect it. oh if you have read my earlier posts you would see where im coming from too like i said i respect her in a medical ninjutsu user way thats her speciality but when it comes to being a hokage and i just dont think she has done much and we barely any of her feats. i stated in earlier posts as soon as i see something more from her i will glady admit defeat and say she deserves the title of hokage
 

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you seem kind of mad bro take a chill pill or play call of duty:cool:
naruto in v2 fox mode like bee was in when he fighting kisame can offer protection from harm and death
doesnt kabuto specialize in medical ninjutsu too ?
im a troll or hater? uhhh nty your the one who sounds mad bra:shrug:

some plp may forget at time this is a naruto forum so i remind them sometimes is that a problem for you? if so then go cry to a admin about it
this is logical? ive been backing up what ive been saying since yesterday with reasoning and logic.
yes i know kishi made her hokage he is the author?
build a bridge? not really a construction worker :shrug:
i can get over it shes a fictional character your the one who seems mad bro if you want to continue this we can do it 2 marrow because f1nix said he was going to make a thread about tsuande so you and me can settle it their.

Mad? I aint even mad lol, just surprised and finding it quite funny actually at the level of stupidity and dullness from you. You really are a mug, I was talking about the invasion of Pain arc when the village was getting destroyed, this was the whole basis of your "logical" argument because Tsunade didnt do a "good" job according to you. Anyway I wont go into details to explain it to you because as I recall your thick skull doesnt understand/aware of the plot no jutsu so I'll leave you to your deluded beliefs.

Again you repeat your naive statements, if you only understood what I said earlier you would know that what you replied would be irrelevant and pointless. Frankly with you it feels like I have been talking to a brick wall. U_U
 

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Mad? I aint even mad lol, just surprised and finding it quite funny actually at the level of stupidity and dullness from you. You really are a mug, I was talking about the invasion of Pain arc when the village was getting destroyed, this was the whole basis of your "logical" argument because Tsunade didnt do a "good" job according to you. Anyway I wont go into details to explain it to you because as I recall your thick skull doesnt understand/aware of the plot no jutsu so I'll leave you to your deluded beliefs.

Again you repeat your naive statements, if you only understood what I said earlier you would know that what you replied would be irrelevant and pointless. Frankly with you it feels like I have been talking to a brick wall. U_U
oh plz... stupidity if you call standing by your opinion and providing reasons and logic and some manga then yep i guess im all stupid :cool:

im a mug? come on bro that was pathetic.
pain arc? what did she do sheild of of the villagers? ninjas do that all the time even fodder ? and have the nerve to step to pain and get saved the the number 1 knuckle head ninja uzumaki naruto and turn into her old wrinkly self :shrug:
ive been going into details

'' frankly with you it feels like i have been talking to a brick wall'' oh really? huh? if you feel like you have been talking o a brick wall why respond ? you just make your self look idiotic:flaw:
 

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Yes She a healer and healers are never much of fighters but she is still kage level because of several reasons.
her HUGE... chackra levels, her sheer level of chackra was greater then that of even naruto "befor full fox mode". demonstrated by when she shielded every person in the village with her slugs, which was a couple thousand people.

we dont know just how strong a fighter she is cause weve never seen her fight all out. she got stomped by kabuto only after fighting orochimaru to a draw and past that weve never really seen her fight.

is she as strong a fighter as the third or fourth... no but she is still worthy of being called kage
 

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You are....really just...a hater. Idk what else to call it. Saving lives isnt important to you. You just care about whether someone can kamehameha or not. Tsunade only save a few ppl and sat out....she was willing to kill herself to save all those people and she nearly did. That slug relayed all that information to Naruto so if you wanna give that point to Kakashi you have to give it to Tsunade as well since it was her summon that she sent out into the field. So without Tsunade Naruto wouldnt have known ANYTHING about deva path because Kakashi was DEAD!
Finally !!! It was about time u realised that Prince Charles is a total Tsunade hater !!!
His understanding of the word Ninja only extends to taking life... :D
So there is no point arguing the obvious here...

The most implicit acceptance to Tsunade's Credentials as the Hokage, come from ppl who are of Equal stature to her...
The Raikage, The Tsuchikage, Danzo, Jiraiyya, The Village elders, Kakashi himself... All of them not just accept her as Capable of the Title, but also Respect her (Even FEAR her, in some cases...)
If she was so 'low level', Danzo would have simply killed or gotten her killed and would have become the Hokage...
But all the Above Respect the "Slug Princess"....
And Chiyyo managed to save 1 life, at the expense of her own ! Comparing that to Tsunade's ability is like comparing the water in your cup to the water in a Swimming pool !!!
Even Chiyyo is shown totally respecting Sakura, the moment she hears that Sakura is Tsunade's student...
And Chiyyo herself was the most execptional of the Sand Ninjas, so we are talking about The Elites having Respect for Tsunade....
Pretty much closes the case for me... And Tsunade hasn't been given enough relevance to the story, compared to Kakashi, as the Story is about NARUTO.. And Kakashi n Jirayya happen to be his teachers, so almost always closer to the action...
If Genesis Rebirth isn't a single largest qualification for the Hokage title, then i suppose only Pain would be better suited to the post.... That too, after his change of Heart, due to Naruto.. :)
 

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Finally !!! It was about time u realised that Prince Charles is a total Tsunade hater !!!
His understanding of the word Ninja only extends to taking life... :D
So there is no point arguing the obvious here...

The most implicit acceptance to Tsunade's Credentials as the Hokage, come from ppl who are of Equal stature to her...
The Raikage, The Tsuchikage, Danzo, Jiraiyya, The Village elders, Kakashi himself... All of them not just accept her as Capable of the Title, but also Respect her (Even FEAR her, in some cases...)
If she was so 'low level', Danzo would have simply killed or gotten her killed and would have become the Hokage...
But all the Above Respect the "Slug Princess"....
And Chiyyo managed to save 1 life, at the expense of her own ! Comparing that to Tsunade's ability is like comparing the water in your cup to the water in a Swimming pool !!!
Even Chiyyo is shown totally respecting Sakura, the moment she hears that Sakura is Tsunade's student...
And Chiyyo herself was the most execptional of the Sand Ninjas, so we are talking about The Elites having Respect for Tsunade....
Pretty much closes the case for me... And Tsunade hasn't been given enough relevance to the story, compared to Kakashi, as the Story is about NARUTO.. And Kakashi n Jirayya happen to be his teachers, so almost always closer to the action...
If Genesis Rebirth isn't a single largest qualification for the Hokage title, then i suppose only Pain would be better suited to the post.... That too, after his change of Heart, due to Naruto.. :)
calling me out bra not cool not cool at all:cool:
and once again i dont hate on fictional characters i give credit when its due i already said she the best in medical ninjutsu but im just not impressed by her feats and she hasnt really done nothing to be weild the title of hokage to me instead of trying to insult me read my older posts and i actually back up what i bring to the table. i hope she shows us something good in the fight against madara until no reason to call me out bra:cool:
 

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oh plz... stupidity if you call standing by your opinion and providing reasons and logic and some manga then yep i guess im all stupid :cool:

im a mug? come on bro that was pathetic.
pain arc? what did she do sheild of of the villagers? ninjas do that all the time even fodder ? and have the nerve to step to pain and get saved the the number 1 knuckle head ninja uzumaki naruto and turn into her old wrinkly self :shrug:
ive been going into details

'' frankly with you it feels like i have been talking to a brick wall'' oh really? huh? if you feel like you have been talking o a brick wall why respond ? you just make your self look idiotic:flaw:

I am responding because I'm trying to see whether you would make more laughable statements such as the ones I have highlighted in bold. Yep call me pathetic, coming from the one who actually replies to a figure of speech. U_U

Again when you understand the concept of plot no jutsu, come back to me. Until then go back under the bridge.
 

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nice post i respect it. oh if you have read my earlier posts you would see where im coming from too like i said i respect her in a medical ninjutsu user way thats her speciality but when it comes to being a hokage and i just dont think she has done much and we barely any of her feats. i stated in earlier posts as soon as i see something more from her i will glady admit defeat and say she deserves the title of hokage
So, her deserving the Title of Hokage isn't good enough for you because you feel that she doesn't do enough?

Dude, I understand that, I respect your opinion, and I can't change that, but I do agree with you to some extent with her feats making her skills as Hokage borderline, but that is because less of her is being shown in the Manga, but her role as Hokage is a different story.


Many feel and I personal feel that because of her lately sacrifices and duties so far in office of the Hokage, she did more than any other Hokage would have done. She gave the true meaning of being a Hokage which was passed down by her predecessors - "To Protect The (Leaf) Village With Your Life". She ended up in a coma. Are you reading the same Manga? No other shinobi in the village at the time can do what she did.
 

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So, her deserving the Title of Hokage isn't good enough for you because you feel that she doesn't do enough?

Dude, I understand that, I respect your opinion, and I can't change that, but I do agree with you to some extent with her feats making her skills as Hokage borderline, but that is because less of her is being shown in the Manga, but her role as Hokage is a different story.


Many feel and I personal feel that because of her lately sacrifices and duties so far in office of the Hokage, she did more than any other Hokage would have done. She gave the true meaning of being a Hokage which was passed down by her predecessors - "To Protect The (Leaf) Village With Your Life". She ended up in a coma. Are you reading the same Manga? No other shinobi in the village at the time can do what she did.
please tell me what amazing things as she done to deseserve the title as hokage bro i really want to know and give me some legit answers
 

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So, her deserving the Title of Hokage isn't good enough for you because you feel that she doesn't do enough?

Dude, I understand that, I respect your opinion, and I can't change that, but I do agree with you to some extent with her feats making her skills as Hokage borderline, but that is because less of her is being shown in the Manga, but her role as Hokage is a different story.


Many feel and I personal feel that because of her lately sacrifices and duties so far in office of the Hokage, she did more than any other Hokage would have done. She gave the true meaning of being a Hokage which was passed down by her predecessors - "To Protect The (Leaf) Village With Your Life". She ended up in a coma. Are you reading the same Manga? No other shinobi in the village at the time can do what she did.
Lol no point arguing that with him, it has been said to him time and time but he just ignores them. His thick skull simply wont get it.
 

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I am responding because I'm trying to see whether you would make more laughable statements such as the ones I have highlighted in bold. Yep call me pathetic, coming from the one who actually replies to a figure of speech. U_U

Again when you understand the concept of plot no jutsu, come back to me. Until then go back under the bridge.
i do understand plot no jutsu, its the deadliest technique in the manga lolz but yea i do understand it and i dont go under bridges because obviously im not a troll no pun intended:rolleyes:
 

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please tell me what amazing things as she done to deseserve the title as hokage bro i really want to know and give me some legit answers
Her political skills (Sound Invasion Arc/The Fourth Shinobi Great War). Tsunade skills as a Medical Ninja (Sannin Battle/Pain Arc). Her battle skills (Sannin Battle).

If you read the Manga I'm sure you would know the details.

Can you give legit answers why anyone else could become Hokage such as Kakashi, Shikamaru, etc.? What Jutsu can they use to protect the Ninja or Civilians of Konoha on such a large scale such as Tsunade + Katsuyu Healing Transmission Technique?

Please exclude any other Ninja such as The First , Second, Third, Fourth Hokage, and Danzou from these argument.
 

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Her political skills (Sound Invasion Arc/The Fourth Shinobi Great War). Tsunade skills as a Medical Ninja (Sannin Battle/Pain Arc). Her battle skills (Sannin Battle).

If you read the Manga I'm sure you would know the details.

Can you give legit answers why anyone else could become Hokage such as Kakashi, Shikamaru, etc.? What Jutsu can they use to protect the Ninja or Civilians of Konoha on such a large scale such as Tsunade + Katsuyu Healing Transmission Technique?

Please exclude any other Ninja such as The First , Second, Third, Fourth Hokage, and Danzou from these argument.
all you gave were her political skills i was expecting more from you after to took so long i thought you were gunna roast me :cool:
1. you mix up village and villagers
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thats the so called vilage she protected? no she did not. she protected the villagers somewhat ? yes she did
kakashi? he was already nominated for it i dont need to be explained why

shikamaru? possibilty but he lacks power and strength he was battle wits and plans his attacks very well but i doubt he of all plp can hold out against pain
 

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Holy crap. I leave the site for a day and this thread jumps up a dozen pages. xd

all you gave were her political skills i was expecting more from you after to took so long i thought you were gunna roast me :cool:
1. you mix up village and villagers
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thats the so called vilage she protected? no she did not. she protected the villagers somewhat ? yes she did
kakashi? he was already nominated for it i dont need to be explained why

shikamaru? possibilty but he lacks power and strength he was battle wits and plans his attacks very well but i doubt he of all plp can hold out against pain
I really hope you're trolling and aren't that dense. She protected the village, as in its occupants. THAT'S what a Hokage is supposed to do. Honestly, what's going to/can protect an entire village from an attack on that scale? Tsunade protected what she was supposed to, the people. There is no "somewhat", she protected everyone that was living by using Katsuya and her healing techniques.

There is absolutely no doubt she is Kage-level.
 

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Holy crap. I leave the site for a day and this thread jumps up a dozen pages. xd



I really hope you're trolling and aren't that dense. She protected the village, as in its occupants. THAT'S what a Hokage is supposed to do. Honestly, what's going to/can protect an entire village from an attack on that scale? Tsunade protected what she was supposed to, the people. There is no "somewhat", she protected everyone that was living by using Katsuya and her healing techniques.

There is absolutely no doubt she is Kage-level.
protected the village explain your view as protecting a village surely proecting your village means dont let it get reduced to rubble right? oh and i like your posts they are very good just thought id let you know anyways back to the topic and no im not a troll i have been giving reasons for the way i think and logic but plp seem to just discard them and just say im trolling.
and being kage level to me doesnt meen saving a few lives if that was the case every ninja would be kage level =p even iruka lolz:shrug: not trying to be rude or nothing all in fun mate.
 

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all you gave were her political skills i was expecting more from you after to took so long i thought you were gunna roast me :cool:
1. you mix up village and villagers
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thats the so called vilage she protected? no she did not. she protected the villagers somewhat ? yes she did
kakashi? he was already nominated for it i dont need to be explained why

shikamaru? possibilty but he lacks power and strength he was battle wits and plans his attacks very well but i doubt he of all plp can hold out against pain
Yes this. She protected a few villagers and ninjas sure. But how many countless villagers and shinobi were already slaughtered by Pein? If anything Naruto was the only one protecting anyone that day,forcing Pein to revive everyone with talk-no jutsu. She hasn't done anything to deserve kage title, you all bring up the same little detail that really was not that impressive.
 
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