Homosexuality (since it has been a popular topic on NB as of late)

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I never said homosexuality was a sexual perversion but it can be interpreted as such by people. because logical thinking dictates penis goes inside vagina. The word perverse basically means odd or abnormal so if a rather large percent of people are straight like lets say 98% and 1% is gay and the other percent is bi then being gay or bi maybe seen as perverse by the majority because they are not big enough to be classified as "normal".
Ok. I see what you're saying. Well not all abnormal sexual acts are perverse.

Most men don't need drugs for ED. (I'm guessing)
 

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Maybe. But he said this was his gay friend. And having a *** change and being gay are different things. At least I think so.
I figure it's a language/cultural thing. Lot's of filipinos use transgender and gay interchangeably.

At least I HOPE that's the case... Cause I've seen some really buff, manly guys who are gay so...
 

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I figure it's a language/cultural thing. Lot's of filipinos use transgender and gay interchangeably.

At least I HOPE that's the case... Cause I've seen some really buff, manly guys who are gay so...
No, no. My friend got a vagina.
And yes it's difficult to figure out if people are gay or not anymore, especially in my country.
 

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No matter how anything you say is interpreted it doesn't change the fact that the majority of what you say tends to be misguided and ignorant.

You just can't compare those two. They're completely different. How do we know what is linked to genes and what is nurtured by society?

For example, if I exposed you over and over again to pedophilia and little kids, will you eventually develop a fetish for little girls or boys? I'm going to guess your answer will be no. But by your logic, since being gay is a choice, then you could eventually develop that fetish.

IMO, homosexuality is influenced by both nurture AND nature. Sure, certain genes might make a man more feminine and prone to liking the same ***, or a woman more masculine and prone to being attracted to the same *** while on the same token, the environment can influence this as well. I highly doubt there's a specific gene we could just pluck out of our DNA to make us impermeable to homosexuality.
you misinterpretted it as in i was saying gays are criminals. i wasnt saying this at all!

your just mad that i compared the 2 but despite pedos being seen as a crime in most of american society. it is not seen as bad in some cultures, religions, societies and at certain times in the past.

same thing as homosexuals. i the past it was a crime in america to be gay. it was thought to be a mental disorder. but nowadays its almost like a fad. people in american bitch and complain about gays not marrying but gays in other countries are KILLED IN PUBLIC for being gay. smh also i dont agree that a gay should be killed for being gay. i dont think gays should be hated or any of that or that they are criminals but i do believe it is wrong and a sin. is it hurting anyone? no. but its still a sin.

anyways!!!!!!

i did not understand your arguement at all.

so let me ask again in hopes you rephrase your answer or change it.

pedos are attracted to children for whatever reasons. there is evidence that this is based on up bringing. homos are attracted to same *** and this is also based on up bringing.

both pedos and homos in majority of cases share a past of sexual abuse.

if people think there is a gay gene cuz people are attracted to same ***, what about those attracted to lil children? do they have a pedo gene? what about other types of attractions or fetishes? are their genes for those as well?

or is this all based on the environment and our upbringing?

and does being attracted to something mean you cannot act agaisnt this attraction?

is a gay only able to stay gay because they are attracted to same ***? cant attraction be learned? or can attraction be more than just physical? besides whats more important in a relationship or which type lasts longer? a relatinship based on physical attraction or emotional?
 

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This debate is over. Science (as always) won. I have foresight. We've converted one your best speaker, Faceless, to our side (you can't deny it.... :D ), so your arguers that are left are ignorant bigots and therefore you'll lose U_U
 

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you misinterpretted it as in i was saying gays are criminals. i wasnt saying this at all!

your just mad that i compared the 2 but despite pedos being seen as a crime in most of american society. it is not seen as bad in some cultures, religions, societies and at certain times in the past.

same thing as homosexuals. i the past it was a crime in america to be gay. it was thought to be a mental disorder. but nowadays its almost like a fad. people in american bitch and complain about gays not marrying but gays in other countries are KILLED IN PUBLIC for being gay. smh also i dont agree that a gay should be killed for being gay. i dont think gays should be hated or any of that or that they are criminals but i do believe it is wrong and a sin. is it hurting anyone? no. but its still a sin.

anyways!!!!!!

i did not understand your arguement at all.

so let me ask again in hopes you rephrase your answer or change it.

pedos are attracted to children for whatever reasons. there is evidence that this is based on up bringing. homos are attracted to same *** and this is also based on up bringing.

both pedos and homos in majority of cases share a past of sexual abuse.

if people think there is a gay gene cuz people are attracted to same ***, what about those attracted to lil children? do they have a pedo gene? what about other types of attractions or fetishes? are their genes for those as well?

or is this all based on the environment and our upbringing?

and does being attracted to something mean you cannot act agaisnt this attraction?

is a gay only able to stay gay because they are attracted to same ***? cant attraction be learned? or can attraction be more than just physical? besides whats more important in a relationship or which type lasts longer? a relatinship based on physical attraction or emotional?
When did you, and every other human CHOOSE what *** to be aroused by.
 

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This debate is over. Science (as always) won. I have foresight. We've converted one your best speaker, Faceless, to our side (you can't deny it.... :D ), so your arguers that are left are ignorant bigots and therefore you'll lose U_U
What? NO I HAVE NOT xd

I'm still standing on the whole it's a choice thingy. Haha.
But sadly this thread is just a flamefest -_-
 

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*facepalm*
This made no sense? Being gay means you want dick and your a man so if your sexually aroused that means you want the dick whether you refuse or not. If you want dick you are gay.Its like about having *** with a girl then she says that she doesn't want to do it so that makes her a lesbian right?
wanting something doesnt mean you have to act on what you want.

see this is why i bring up pedos.

the pedo wants a child. he is sexually aroused by children. but yet he is punished for his attraction for children (not saying he shouldnt, that shit is gross btw) but yet we all have our own sexual preferences and gays are not criminalized. nor straights. or other sexual preferences or fetishes.

does a pedo have a choice to be with children or people his/her own age?
 

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you misinterpretted it as in i was saying gays are criminals. i wasnt saying this at all!

your just mad that i compared the 2 but despite pedos being seen as a crime in most of american society. it is not seen as bad in some cultures, religions, societies and at certain times in the past.

same thing as homosexuals. i the past it was a crime in america to be gay. it was thought to be a mental disorder. but nowadays its almost like a fad. people in american bitch and complain about gays not marrying but gays in other countries are KILLED IN PUBLIC for being gay. smh also i dont agree that a gay should be killed for being gay. i dont think gays should be hated or any of that or that they are criminals but i do believe it is wrong and a sin. is it hurting anyone? no. but its still a sin.

anyways!!!!!!

i did not understand your arguement at all.

so let me ask again in hopes you rephrase your answer or change it.

pedos are attracted to children for whatever reasons. there is evidence that this is based on up bringing. homos are attracted to same *** and this is also based on up bringing.

both pedos and homos in majority of cases share a past of sexual abuse.

if people think there is a gay gene cuz people are attracted to same ***, what about those attracted to lil children? do they have a pedo gene? what about other types of attractions or fetishes? are their genes for those as well?

or is this all based on the environment and our upbringing?

and does being attracted to something mean you cannot act agaisnt this attraction?

is a gay only able to stay gay because they are attracted to same ***? cant attraction be learned? or can attraction be more than just physical? besides whats more important in a relationship or which type lasts longer? a relatinship based on physical attraction or emotional?

Do you have some evidence to back up the Pedo's and Gay's had sexual abuse in their childhood? I don't really care about the Pedo's per-say, but the Gay part. Because that seems like a pretty big generalization.
 

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and does being attracted to something mean you cannot act agaisnt this attraction?
Nope, it's just freaking hard and somehow unnatural. It's like you're will of life, you can act against it and kill yourself but is it natural?

Gotta say I get your points and I would love to go more into detail and discuss every point but it's 5am here and I'm tired so nighty night.
 

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wanting something doesnt mean you have to act on what you want.

see this is why i bring up pedos.

the pedo wants a child. he is sexually aroused by children. but yet he is punished for his attraction for children (not saying he shouldnt, that shit is gross btw) but yet we all have our own sexual preferences and gays are not criminalized. nor straights. or other sexual preferences or fetishes.

does a pedo have a choice to be with children or people his/her own age?
I would agree with you but pedos usually don't differentiate between *** so its not a matter of sexual preferences rather a mental sickness.
 
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