How is itachi uchiha a genius

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It's fine, i know ur trying to make a point. :D I don't disagree with u that he made some bad choices but we all do, we can't see the future. Although he had every intention for the path of the least blood shed to be followed. Sasuke was easily manipulated by Madara and if he hadn't found out the truth, he probably would have returned to the leaf as Itachi intended. Giving Naruto shisui's eye was an intelligent move, his way of making up for things, if they went wrong. He always thought ahead and that's why Kishi made him that way. @ least he tried to make up for the mistakes he made and so far it's possible. :D
I completely agree with you thatonechick. However. I just don't see him as a genius but as a very very very talented shinobi. There are a few characters out there that didn't make a mistake at all(which is impossible). But still. Your right.
 

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Its abvious I'm not a noob because I've been having this account for 3 months. I don't hate on cartoons. Ive praised itachi to many times. You can suck my **** and get the **** out my thread. Coming in here getting off topic. Get your ass out.
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Neat, on one spectrum of the Naruto fanverse we have the despised fanboys, and on the other-- the rare but just as annoying haters who, rather than look at things from a unbiased viewpoint just concentrate on that character's faults. Much like the way a fanboy concentrates on his favorite character's good qualities.

Whelp. First of all, I like how you completely ignored my argument about their being varying types of "genius". I like how you completely ignored all of Itachi's accomplishments. That wasn't biased at all.

Who was making excuses? I didn't disagree that his plan failed. I just said you ought to give him credit for having thought that far ahead in the first place. And even if you argue that because of the failure of his plans, he isn't a genius, even though that's a valid point, what rebuttal have you against Itachi's abilities?

Whether or not he was an utter moron in the world outside of ninjitsu skill as you make him out to be, when it came to skill, he was a genius. You ask how Uchiha Itachi is a genius, I'm just answering you.
I did not I did not.
Are you not reading my post? I've praise his skills throughout this entire thread. I even said on the battlefield he is a genius. But I will stand by my opinion that off the battlefield he isn't. In part 1 all the way up to when he died he was my favorite character. When I learn the truth is when my opinions changed. I been saying he is one of the strongest in the series and smartest. But I disagreed with his decision for sasuke which is why I think he is not a genius. I'm entitled to my opinion and I'm not trying to force it on you. I just made this thread to ask why so many of you think he's a genius. Which everyone brings up the massacre. And that is not genius in my eyes. That is all.
 

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Is this a troll thread? It's not that great.

But you're right though. How can you call Itachi a genius? All he did was master sharingan at an extremely young age, joined ANBU at 13, went toe-to-toe with Kakashi and beat him on less than half strength, fooled everyone in the shinobi world into thinking he was a traitor, including (arguably) the entire akatsuki, thought far enough ahead to implant MS into Sasuke, A crow with Shishui's eye inside Naruto, break Kabuchimaru's control of his body from Edo Tensei, etc. etc.

Anyway yeah. The guy is a total moron.
nicely put.. all this thread ever was anyway was a TROLL thread..:anbus:
 

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I completely agree with you thatonechick. However. I just don't see him as a genius but as a very very very talented shinobi. There are a few characters out there that didn't make a mistake at all(which is impossible). But still. Your right.
Ty and u are entitled to see him the way you wish. We all feel the need to comment on things when it comes to our fave characters. :D At least u see that he is talented. ;) But all ninjas make tough choices, but the toughest ones have no good out come.
 

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It's fine, i know ur trying to make a point. :D I don't disagree with u that he made some bad choices but we all do, we can't see the future. Although he had every intention for the path of the least blood shed to be followed. Sasuke was easily manipulated by Madara and if he hadn't found out the truth, he probably would have returned to the leaf as Itachi intended. Giving Naruto shisui's eye was an intelligent move, his way of making up for things, if they went wrong. He always thought ahead and that's why Kishi made him that way. @ least he tried to make up for the mistakes he made and so far it's possible. :D
Agreed.. xd
 

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Lol you are saying shit that hasn't even happened. And your giving him credit for it? Typical fanboy. And as far as orochimaru being a genius. Name another shinobi that has created countless forbidden jutsu? Don't worry I'll wait.....
Did you miss the word 'IF', please bring a better argument than fanboy.

So, creating jutsu makes you a genius now? Why, is Shika a genius? Why his is his father a genius? What about the guy who owned this genius of yours not in one, but two occasion within 30 seconds. Itachi also found one of the Rinnegan strongest tech. weakness within seconds.

In the manga it has been said that Itachi is a genius and you are neglecting those facts. It's like me saying Tobi, isn't Madara (when clearly people refer to him as that in the manga).
 
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I did not I did not.
Are you not reading my post? I've praise his skills throughout this entire thread. I even said on the battlefield he is a genius. But I will stand by my opinion that off the battlefield he isn't. In part 1 all the way up to when he died he was my favorite character. When I learn the truth is when my opinions changed. I been saying he is one of the strongest in the series and smartest. But I disagreed with his decision for sasuke which is why I think he is not a genius. I'm entitled to my opinion and I'm not trying to force it on you. I just made this thread to ask why so many of you think he's a genius. Which everyone brings up the massacre. And that is not genius in my eyes. That is all.
Fair enough.

Though I still think the reason why Itachi is widely regarded as a genius is BECAUSE of his skills. The way he advanced in the shinobi world isn't something that can be copied by anyone. He was a special case to be able to move up so fast and to master the sharingan as fast as he did.

There are other ways to be a genius other than having the best foresight. You can be a genius in one area of life and be an idiot in another. A real life example would be Einstein. Of course everyone regards him as a genius when it comes to Physics and all that. But you take a look at the guy's ****ed up social life and he doesn't seem all that genius-y.

I guess, you're saying he isn't a genius when it comes to relationships. I suppose it's arguable.
 

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Fair enough.

Though I still think the reason why Itachi is widely regarded as a genius is BECAUSE of his skills. The way he advanced in the shinobi world isn't something that can be copied by anyone. He was a special case to be able to move up so fast and to master the sharingan as fast as he did.

There are other ways to be a genius other than having the best foresight. You can be a genius in one area of life and be an idiot in another. A real life example would be Einstein. Of course everyone regards him as a genius when it comes to Physics and all that. But you take a look at the guy's ****ed up social life and he doesn't seem all that genius-y.

I guess, you're saying he isn't a genius when it comes to relationships. I suppose it's arguable.
That's exactly what I'm saying. Peopleare just assuming I'm talking about his combat skills which I'm not.
 

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No matter how you look at it, killing your clan specifically your mother,father and love for the sake of a village that has discriminated against your kind and ordered you to kill them can never be considered genius, that is sick, he´s a pacifist but a pacifist that kills his own people by himself in order for people of his village not to die is something i can never respect.
I guess a child at the age of 3 who seen war and people dying along with being a double-agent just thinks differently then people normally do.
 

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Itachi praised by all as the best of his generation; a genius above all others. Even by the standards of the battle-adept Uchiha clan, Itachi's prowess far outshone them.

At age 7, he graduated from the Ninja Academy at the top of his class after only one year, mastered the Sharingan at age eight, passed the Chūnin Exams at age 10, and became an ANBU Captain at age 13.

Even at a young age, Itachi's intellect and talent showed their brilliance in everything he did, as even his teachers said his progress hardly required any help. In the few battles he had been seen in since the start of the series, Itachi was shown to be an incredibly powerful ninja, as demonstrated by his ability to easily defeat several powerful shinobi. Despite his pride in his own strength, Kisame Hoshigaki, Itachi's partner in Akatsuki, acknowledged Itachi as the stronger of the two. Madara said that Itachi never ceased to amaze him, and Kabuto recognised that he had underestimated his intelligence, after he managed to break free of his control through the use of Shisui's dojutsu.
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I did give him credit. And all that stuff he did in his youth is not genius. It's raw talent. Two different things. He spend over half of his life coming up with a plan that failed dramatically. He is one of the strongest shinobi in the series. But not a genius. Your a itachi fan so all your doing is looking at everything he's done and picked out the bad to make it seem all good when it isn't good. :D
You truly are a joke you ask other people to flame you when you use that as an excuse so you can flame others. Stop hating on Itachi I'm not a fanboy but he is one of the few people that planned the aftermath out of his death. And his plan would've worked if Madara didn't tell Sasuke the truth.
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he mastered his sharingan at the age of 8, anbu captain @ 13(he is a genius). He was forced into tough decisons and he swallowed his pride and did everything for the sake of the leaf village. blame the elders! Besides how many other ninjas in the manga can plan out things even after their death to the extent that he did? :shrug: give credit where credit is due :D
ll minato he basically planed narutos life thats funny coz while fightin the fox all i remember is that he wanted naruto to use the fox"s chakra
 

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itachi is fully aware that he screwd up with sasuke. he knows that he failed which is why he doesnt even want to see sasuke right now. he had plans for sasuke and sasuke threw it in his face.

plus. only a genius can perfectly disguise his true intentions for YEARS without ANYONE finding out the truth. you also gotta give him cred for being able to infiltrate and spy on the akatsuki without them finding out either. that takes some smarts
 

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I hate flamers and fanboys too bro ;) My only loyalty is to Da Toads :D

But, that being said, I would say that the guy that created Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, and a Susanoo that had the Yata Mirror and the Sword of Totsuka was pretty freakin' genius, not a total genius. No one else other than Sasuke has ever been shown to use any of those jutsu and Sasuke never used any of them until Itachi gave them to him by a poke on the head. That's one h*ll of a transference of jutsu poke on the forehead!!! Still not genius??? You are totally right about his choices i.e. kill off his entire clan, mom, dad, and he left only his little bro. :flaw: No one really knows what would've happened if the Uchiha completed their coup d'état or if it would've started another Ninja War. But, we do know that his little brother has flipped and he just wants to kill everyone and everything. So, I would say Sharingan and tactician genius but definitely not in making choices that effect the future of what he truly cares about genius. So, yes and no. :)
he didn't transfer any eye techniques to Sasuke!!!

how many times must I tell people this?!!

it was a once off thing.
 
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