How is itachi uchiha a genius

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No i wouldn't. However r u saying that a killer can't be a genius? Oro was a genius and look @ all the bad things he did. Hannibal is a genius and he killed people. What's your point? I thought they used the term evil genius's for people like that.
Omg you still don't get it. I admitted that itachi was one of the strongest and most talented ninja in the series. But his life decision making is what seperates him from the genius category. Read it again. HIS DESCISION MAKING is terrible. Nothing he did did anything good for the future. I'm not just talking about the massacre. I'm talking about everything to sasuke to koto and naruto. Your praise him for what he did with shisuis eye and he admitted that his plan with it failed. Just like all his other plans.
 

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Omg you still don't get it. I admitted that itachi was one of the strongest and most talented ninja in the series. But his life decision making is what seperates him from the genius category. Read it again. HIS DESCISION MAKING is terrible. Nothing he did did anything good for the future. I'm not just talking about the massacre. I'm talking about everything to sasuke to koto and naruto. Your praise him for what he did with shisuis eye and he admitted that his plan with it failed. Just like all his other plans.
But it takes intelligence to be one of the strongest and most talented ninja.

You could argue that what he did was for the best. If he didn't kill all of the Uchiha, there would have been a big ol' war, more people would have died, and the Uchiha name would have been soiled forever.

Then there's also varying ways to be a genius. Orochimaru was a genius for mastering as many jutsu as he did. Minato was a genius for the way he could make decisions on the fly that would completely turn a battle around.

Itachi's plan with Shishui's eye might have not gone the way he wanted it to, but it's not like he could have foreseen EVERYTHING. I think it takes a considerable amount of intelligence still to think as far ahead as he did.
 

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You cant actually compare real life with a ninja world like Naruto, most Naruto characters that knew Itachi talk of him like he is a genius and its pretty clear Kishimoto wanted him that way and to be seen like that.

Genius in Naruto also seems the ones who where blessed with the ability to master everything at extremely young age and grow up faster, i always said to people you'll know what kishi wanted for Itachi if you just compare 13 years old Sasuke with 13 years old Itachi(massacre), plus Itachi evolved like this when he was young:

8 years old: Mastered sharingan.
10 years old: Chunin
Between 11-13years old: Anbu member to Anbu captain.
12 years old: Mangekyo Sharingan.
13 years old: Uchiha Massacre and joined Akatsuki.
 

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Omg you still don't get it. I admitted that itachi was one of the strongest and most talented ninja in the series. But his life decision making is what seperates him from the genius category. Read it again. HIS DESCISION MAKING is terrible. Nothing he did did anything good for the future. I'm not just talking about the massacre. I'm talking about everything to sasuke to koto and naruto. Your praise him for what he did with shisuis eye and he admitted that his plan with it failed. Just like all his other plans.
I'm not arguing about that. You said would u kill your family. I'm just trying to see how that's relevant? You asked me directly if I would and it seems off topic. We all make bad decisions no matter how smart or dumb we are.
 

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But it takes intelligence to be one of the strongest and most talented ninja.

You could argue that what he did was for the best. If he didn't kill all of the Uchiha, there would have been a big ol' war, more people would have died, and the Uchiha name would have been soiled forever.

Then there's also varying ways to be a genius. Orochimaru was a genius for mastering as many jutsu as he did. Minato was a genius for the way he could make decisions on the fly that would completely turn a battle around.

Itachi's plan with Shishui's eye might have not gone the way he wanted it to, but it's not like he could have foreseen EVERYTHING. I think it takes a considerable amount of intelligence still to think as far ahead as he did.
So your saying it takes a lot of intelligence to come up with 2 major plans that fail greatly. It amazes me on how much you back him up. It also amazes me on how he was "surprised" that sasuke didn't return to konoha. He filled sasukes heart with hatred and he expected sasuke to just turn back into a good guy after his death. That isn't smart. I don't care what excuse you give him. There is no good guy with a heart filled with hate. The "smart" thing for itachi to do is to have killed sasuke. He took a risk and he failed. Now his brother is trying to destroy the village he protected because of his little plan. That my friend is not genius. And there are other ways he could have used shisui eye. Please stop making excuses for his failure.
 

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we cant think about how we would act in our world but the naruto world. itachi was a child when the kyuubi attacked the village and saw the death and destruction. he also knew that if the uchia attacked the village it would be a civil war + it would have lead the village open to being attacked by other villages as well. To make a long story short it was either take out the uchia (ordered by the elders) or fight and risk the entire village being destroyed make a choice. Everything he did with in the village he did before he was 16. That is also the age he was when he pwnd Oro. He pwnd sausgay while he was on his deathbead. And was still an undercover agent for konoha. His plan 4 his brother may seem wrong now but if he didnt do what he did sauske wouldnt be half as strong as he is now. And he may no something we dont. He may have even transplanted memories in sauske when he gave him his powers. Needless to say he is a genious. Thats y kakashi feared him
 

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I'm not arguing about that. You said would u kill your family. I'm just trying to see how that's relevant? You asked me directly if I would and it seems off topic. We all make bad decisions no matter how smart or dumb we are.
I apologize about the family killing thing. I got off topic and used a bad example. But this thread isn't just about the massacre. It's about itachi period. Everything. From his skills(which I acknowledge one of the best) down to his life decisions.
 

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Oro a genius? He was after a Sharingan his whole life, but failed and got sealed away from no one else but Itachi.

Itachi has had his failures and wrong decision making, but that doesn't strip the word genius from you. Even Einstein has had his failure so will you not consider him a genius? Itachi hope like Minato still lay in Naruto. At the end even if Sasuke fights a long side Konoho helps them get rid of the 10 tails, Tobi than what? What Itachi wanted from Sasuke has came true. Sasuke a long with Naruto will be a hero dead or a live at the end and the Uchiha name will rise.
 

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Oro a genius? He was after a Sharingan his whole life, but failed and got sealed away from no one else but Itachi.

Itachi has had his failures and wrong decision making, but that doesn't strip the word genius from you. Even Einstein has had his failure so will you not consider him a genius? Itachi hope like Minato still lay in Naruto. At the end even if Sasuke fights a long side Konoho helps them get rid of the 10 tails, Tobi than what? What Itachi wanted from Sasuke has came true. Sasuke a long with Naruto will be a hero dead or a live at the end and the Uchiha name will rise.
Lol you are saying shit that hasn't even happened. And your giving him credit for it? Typical fanboy. And as far as orochimaru being a genius. Name another shinobi that has created countless forbidden jutsu? Don't worry I'll wait.....
 

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No my friend. I was a guest on this site way before I joined. And it goes like this.

Itachi
Sasuke
Minato


im more experienced than you and many will agree

Minato
sasuke
itachi


I can tell your a noob as you constanly double post.

Im also one of the best when it comes to telling off fanboys minato fans in particular.
you are simply a hater.
 

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I apologize about the family killing thing. I got off topic and used a bad example. But this thread isn't just about the massacre. It's about itachi period. Everything. From his skills(which I acknowledge one of the best) down to his life decisions.
It's fine, i know ur trying to make a point. :D I don't disagree with u that he made some bad choices but we all do, we can't see the future. Although he had every intention for the path of the least blood shed to be followed. Sasuke was easily manipulated by Madara and if he hadn't found out the truth, he probably would have returned to the leaf as Itachi intended. Giving Naruto shisui's eye was an intelligent move, his way of making up for things, if they went wrong. He always thought ahead and that's why Kishi made him that way. @ least he tried to make up for the mistakes he made and so far it's possible. :D
 

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im more experienced than you and many will agree

Minato
sasuke
itachi


I can tell your a noob as you constanly double post.

Im also one of the best when it comes to telling off fanboys minato fans in particular.
you are simply a hater.
Its abvious I'm not a noob because I've been having this account for 3 months. I don't hate on cartoons. Ive praised itachi to many times. You can suck my **** and get the **** out my thread. Coming in here getting off topic. Get your ass out.
 

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So your saying it takes a lot of intelligence to come up with 2 major plans that fail greatly. It amazes me on how much you back him up. It also amazes me on how he was "surprised" that sasuke didn't return to konoha. He filled sasukes heart with hatred and he expected sasuke to just turn back into a good guy after his death. That isn't smart. I don't care what excuse you give him. There is no good guy with a heart filled with hate. The "smart" thing for itachi to do is to have killed sasuke. He took a risk and he failed. Now his brother is trying to destroy the village he protected because of his little plan. That my friend is not genius. And there are other ways he could have used shisui eye. Please stop making excuses for his failure.
Neat, on one spectrum of the Naruto fanverse we have the despised fanboys, and on the other-- the rare but just as annoying haters who, rather than look at things from a unbiased viewpoint just concentrate on that character's faults. Much like the way a fanboy concentrates on his favorite character's good qualities.

Whelp. First of all, I like how you completely ignored my argument about their being varying types of "genius". I like how you completely ignored all of Itachi's accomplishments. That wasn't biased at all.

Who was making excuses? I didn't disagree that his plan failed. I just said you ought to give him credit for having thought that far ahead in the first place. And even if you argue that because of the failure of his plans, he isn't a genius, even though that's a valid point, what rebuttal have you against Itachi's abilities?

Whether or not he was an utter moron in the world outside of ninjitsu skill as you make him out to be, when it came to skill, he was a genius. You ask how Uchiha Itachi is a genius, I'm just answering you.
 
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