Flying Thunder God Technique not all it's cracked up to be

[Itachi Namikaze]

This guy doesn't even have his facts correct, FTG uses no chakra as it is based off the reverse summoning jutsu where you send a summons back. That requires no chakra.

Secondly, Minato is still one of the fastest characters in the entire manga even without FTG. If you want me to give evidence of this I will but honestly it should be apparent by now, even Shee said that A with his raiton armor was on par with Minato.

It is fairly easy to deflect the kunai but it is harder to know exactly where all of those kunai are at all times and constantly be on the lookout for them. Battles aren't stationary and if the opponent moves they might lose track of where each kunai is. Then Minato can mark basically anything and throw it, or just rush at you and mark you. Against anyone but a raikage that seems like a pretty good idea since Minato is faster than anyone else.

And I assume other people have said this but if it isn't useful against jounin then how come Minato was able to wipe out battalions? Or how come he beat another ST user of kage level? And how did he get the upper hand against the A (second fastest live character) and Bee (a perfect jinchurriki), both of whom are kage level? Minato never lost so I guess it isn't as easy as you make it out to be.

You sir are hating just to hate. Please stop it.

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

he wasn't telling you calm down just to be an jerk, he was saying it because your swears can get you ban.

Are you the guy from earlier? If so then I thought I made it clear that I could careless about getting banned. I thought me saying bitch over and over made that obvious.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

A lot of people on here should be banned for the moment. Especially the people so defensive of Minato <_<

I don't think they should be ban, their just posting opinions. But theres no need for them to call this thread a fail.-_-

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

Thank you^

I apologize. You are NOT a bitch.
Wether you accept the apology or not doesn't bother me but I'm apologizing.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

This guy doesn't even have his facts correct, FTG uses no chakra as it is based off the reverse summoning jutsu where you send a summons back. That requires no chakra.

Secondly, Minato is still one of the fastest characters in the entire manga even without FTG. If you want me to give evidence of this I will but honestly it should be apparent by now, even Shee said that A with his raiton armor was on par with Minato.

It is fairly easy to deflect the kunai but it is harder to know exactly where all of those kunai are at all times and constantly be on the lookout for them. Battles aren't stationary and if the opponent moves they might lose track of where each kunai is. Then Minato can mark basically anything and throw it, or just rush at you and mark you. Against anyone but a raikage that seems like a pretty good idea since Minato is faster than anyone else.

And I assume other people have said this but if it isn't useful against jounin then how come Minato was able to wipe out battalions? Or how come he beat another ST user of kage level? And how did he get the upper hand against the A (second fastest live character) and Bee (a perfect jinchurriki), both of whom are kage level? Minato never lost so I guess it isn't as easy as you make it out to be.

You sir are hating just to hate. Please stop it.

Not bad, I hate to say it but +rep.

 

[Kazu Mikura]

I don't think they should be ban, their just posting opinions. But theres no need for them to call this thread a fail.-_-

I think he is taalkin about all the swearing these guys are doing... Although it is pretty obvious there are some holes in his thread.

Its based off the FTG technique alone and is not taking in Minato as a whole. Minato, regardless of who likes/dislikes him have to understand that what the guy is capable of doing is just... beyond Kage- level and more like Sage.

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

I don't think they should be ban, their just posting opinions. But theres no need for them to call this thread a fail.-_-

The same guy that your defending came to my thread last night and said thread fail. You think ima roll over and let that fly. This my first time criticizing someone's thread. Had he not did it to me I would have posted my opinion on this thread and been on my way.

 

[~WastelandSociety~]

I apologize. You are NOT a bitch.
Wether you accept the apology or not doesn't bother me but I'm apologizing.

Apology accepted ^_^. And sorry for calling you a fanboy.

The same guy that your defending came to my thread last night and said thread fail. You think ima roll over and let that fly. This my first time criticizing someone's thread. Had he not did it to me I would have posted my opinion on this thread and been on my way.

Oh. Again I'm sorry,for jumping the gun on you then.

 

[FireStack]

View my recent thread is called ,who's past or childhood was the worst comment is could star heated arguements

 

[Hitoshi]

*sips energy drink* Reads topic and post *spits energy drink on pc screen and die laughing* okay i just wanna say the guy calling people bitches is funny i like him anyhow the thread is a little off the ftg doesn't require chakra or hand signals and i know itachi beast and all yes has susanoo'o which frankly you should have put that as a argument cause it is a good shield vs minato attacks anyhow most of your point off base no ninja fight stays stationary and im sure he has the multi shadow shuirken thing as i saw that in that movie which was OK i give it a 3 out of 5 but yeah itachi a genius but kishi has made it clear that the first and the fourth are the best

 

[Swizzik]

This guy doesn't even have his facts correct, FTG uses no chakra as it is based off the reverse summoning jutsu where you send a summons back. That requires no chakra.

Secondly, Minato is still one of the fastest characters in the entire manga even without FTG. If you want me to give evidence of this I will but honestly it should be apparent by now, even Shee said that A with his raiton armor was on par with Minato.

It is fairly easy to deflect the kunai but it is harder to know exactly where all of those kunai are at all times and constantly be on the lookout for them. Battles aren't stationary and if the opponent moves they might lose track of where each kunai is. Then Minato can mark basically anything and throw it, or just rush at you and mark you. Against anyone but a raikage that seems like a pretty good idea since Minato is faster than anyone else.

And I assume other people have said this but if it isn't useful against jounin then how come Minato was able to wipe out battalions? Or how come he beat another ST user of kage level? And how did he get the upper hand against the A (second fastest live character) and Bee (a perfect jinchurriki), both of whom are kage level? Minato never lost so I guess it isn't as easy as you make it out to be.

You sir are hating just to hate. Please stop it.

someone like shikaku, shikamaru, kakashi, or sasuke can keep track of the kunai and sharingan users will be able to track his speed and movements therefore able to keep an eye out for him.

Minato was only able to wipe out battalions as shown from kakashi gaiden with the help of his own guys spreading his kunai around the battle field and have you realized that most ninja not really part of the main series are canon fodder. For example look at the war how many of those guys did the mizukage slay or what about the countless samurai lives sasuke ended in mere seconds?...

the A and Bee fight i got to hand this one to FTG it is more or less teleportation.But Madara kept up with the Fourth and if i recall Naruto hit the guy with a rasengan.

chances of beating this technique are very very astronomical but not an impossible technique to beat.

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

Apology accepted ^_^. And sorry for calling you a fanboy.






Oh. Again I'm sorry,for jumping the gun on you then.

It's alright I understand. And thank for looking out on the banned thing.

 

[Taiketsu Yagami]

I think he is taalkin about all the swearing these guys are doing... Although it is pretty obvious there are some holes in his thread.

Its based off the FTG technique alone and is not taking in Minato as a whole. Minato, regardless of who likes/dislikes him have to understand that what the guy is capable of doing is just... beyond Kage- level and more like Sage.

this^^

 

[MinatoFLASH]

There are two levels to FTG:

Level 1
Teleportation to a stationary object in the form of either a kunai or marked seal

Level 2
Teleportation to a moving object that is either a travelling kunai or a marked opponent

However, there are two glaring issues:

Kunai can be blocked

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(I know the picture shows shuriken but the point is still the same)
This is to:

1. Stop Minato from teleporting near you
2. Create a distance between you and Minato so as to severely limit his speed

Granted he won't throw the kunai

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, but you can still thwart the path of the ones headed towards you. And stop them from landing behind you. This way you'd only need to be cautious of attacks originating in front of you

You can prepare a defense
Ex.

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This is to:

1. Avoid being tagged
2. Defend against an attacking kunai or Rasengan

You can anticipate

1. FTG requires hand seal(s) - so monitor his hands and react accordingly
2. He'd obviously attempt to teleport to the kunai closest to you

Also:

1. FTG comes with a cost. It still eats your chakra
2. Minato has a limited supply of kunai

In addition (this is extra, you don't have to read it):

Spoiler

Highest ranking jutsu

Spoiler

Their use is quite self-explanatory

• Izanagi
• Susano’o
• Amaterasu
• Shinra tensei

Low-class ninjutsu

Spoiler

1. You must be registered for see links
2. You must be registered for see links

High-class ninjutsu

Spoiler

Shadow Clone Jutsu
Uses:

1. Diversionary tactic
2. You must be registered for see links

Wind affinity

Spoiler

High-level Wind technique- use is quite self-explanatory - scatter away kunai

Earth affinity

Spoiler

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2. You must be registered for see links

Water affinity

Spoiler

1. You must be registered for see links
2. You must be registered for see links

Medical ninjutsu/Healing

Spoiler

1. You must be registered for see links
2. You must be registered for see links

Taijutsu

To paralyze/disable:
i.e. disable his body – a leg(s) or arm(s)

Spoiler

• You must be registered for see links
• Poison – Sasori

Match his speed or reflexes
(To react to his movement i.e. to react quickly enough to dodge his strike when he reappears after teleporting)

Spoiler

1. Gate release
2. Lightning Armour technique
3. Senjutsu augmented speed
4. Jinchuriki speed
5. Shunshin masters – Shisui, Sasuke…
6. Swift release
7. THREE tomoe sharingan precognition
8. Near 360 degree Byakugan vision

Intagibility

Spoiler

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2. You must be registered for see links
3. Kamui
4. You must be registered for see links

Flight

Spoiler

1. Oonoki
2. Muu
3. Gaara’s sand
4. Deidara’s clay
5. Sasuke’s hawk summoning
   --an air oriented summoning technique will suffice
6. Nagato
7. …

Kekkei genkai

Spoiler

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Targetting the kunai

Spoiler

1. Amaterasu kunai
2. Spoil seal formula – Lava KG…etc…

…

Target environment/surroundings

Destroy surroundings

Spoiler

To disperse of tagged kunai:

Smash ground – powerful chakra enhanced ground attack i.e Tsunade, Sakura...etc…

Advantage of terrain

Spoiler

Water –

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or other high-level water techniques

Air - flight

Desert – sinking kunai,

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Ladies and gentlemen, we've defeated FTG (or at least created a sort of stalemate).

1. Minato can't harm you
2. Minato can't outpace you
3. Minato can't get near you

please, just stop with FTG = instant death
that isn't true, at least when it comes to jounin

Minato is overrated.

But what about Flash's base speed?? Hes too fast even without ftg, also ftg doesn't take chakra, if it does then barely its like the body flicker jutsu but much more advanced. Also Minato has this jutsu which blinds his opponent for a couple seconds, and then again u can't touch him! Also guys he is making it seem wayyy to easy. If FTG was that easy then Minato wouldn't be called the greatest hokage or the YELLOW FLASH or praised so much by A and Madara wud of beat him. So yes maybe there are some things u can do to avoid it, its really hard and puts the other guy in a hell of a disadvantage.

 

[tivo]

Ok buddy in a way you MIGHT be right about blocking the shuriken or kunai knifes Minato uses to telaport to kick yo butt.. correct..? Ok whiich your right by what your show on your picture ( nice Picture by the way )... Ok my firend the point im trying to get to is.. While your all trying and expecting to block all of Minato's knifes from hurting you, you are scatering all the knifes around you with your own..... Now you gata see this in advance which you got to remember that ... Minato's telaportaion is the fastest one know to be till now....and its been know that it only takes a secound to telaport which is more then what sasukes eyes can take... Yes sasuke is strong but he's got a long way to go to reach the Foruth's Level...

 

[Amantius]

someone like shikaku, shikamaru, kakashi, or sasuke can keep track of the kunai and sharingan users will be able to track his speed and movements therefore able to keep an eye out for him.

Minato was only able to wipe out battalions as shown from kakashi gaiden with the help of his own guys spreading his kunai around the battle field and have you realized that most ninja not really part of the main series are canon fodder. For example look at the war how many of those guys did the mizukage slay or what about the countless samurai lives sasuke ended in mere seconds?...

the A and Bee fight i got to hand this one to FTG it is more or less teleportation.But Madara kept up with the Fourth and if i recall Naruto hit the guy with a rasengan.

chances of beating this technique are very very astronomical but not an impossible technique to beat.

when it come's to keeping up with his speed sharingan can't and even if they could their body wouldn't react in time, thats why sasuke use black flames on raikage because he couldn't move in time-(and didn't sasuke had hard time with raikage speed because i could of swear he aim black flame at him thinking that he predict his movements and raikage after image out the way-kishi already said Minato was faster than raikage-even had raikage said it him self remember that. black flame is useless anyhow seeing how he has Space time barrier.

 

[Hitoshi]

someone like shikaku, shikamaru, kakashi, or sasuke can keep track of the kunai and sharingan users will be able to track his speed and movements therefore able to keep an eye out for him.

Minato was only able to wipe out battalions as shown from kakashi gaiden with the help of his own guys spreading his kunai around the battle field and have you realized that most ninja not really part of the main series are canon fodder. For example look at the war how many of those guys did the mizukage slay or what about the countless samurai lives sasuke ended in mere seconds?...

the A and Bee fight i got to hand this one to FTG it is more or less teleportation.But Madara kept up with the Fourth and if i recall Naruto hit the guy with a rasengan.

chances of beating this technique are very very astronomical but not an impossible technique to beat.

to the sharigan can track his movement cough nope raikage demonstrated that for us also rock lee demonstrated it way way back in Naruto the fourth is faster then a speeding bullet he is SUPERMAN * Kool-aid man burst through the wall while im typing OH Yeah* *facepalm* you better fix that wall before my dad gets home hes gonna beat me with a belt and hes not gonna believe that minato did it yeah coming through the wall was real fken cool coming through the front door is cool you glass bitch *oh yeah?* no naughty naughty Kool-aid man :flaw:

 

[Swizzik]

when it come's to keeping up with his speed sharingan can't and even if they could their body wouldn't react in time, thats why sasuke use black flames on raikage because he couldn't move in time-(and didn't sasuke had hard time with raikage speed because i could of swear he aim black flame at him thinking that he predict his movements and raikage after image out the way-kishi already said Minato was faster than raikage-even had raikage said it him self remember that. black flame is useless anyhow seeing how he has Space time barrier.

How is amateratsu useless you can't remove it once it gets on you atleast if your not madara and I doubt minato could out flash lightning if sasuke timed kirin right before Minato could blink his ass is grass. OK lets say he can dodge every attack how the hell is he going to get inside susano'o so Minato can't beat Itachi or Sasuke but neither can they beat him. And sasuke see minato coming with sharingan because your video proves it he dodged A's punch and dodged Bees fast attack when they were fighting him hence doing what minato did that you claimed was so great.

 

[Paradox Ruler]

There are two levels to FTG:

Level 1
Teleportation to a stationary object in the form of either a kunai or marked seal

Level 2
Teleportation to a moving object that is either a travelling kunai or a marked opponent

However, there are two glaring issues:

Kunai can be blocked

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see images

(I know the picture shows shuriken but the point is still the same)
This is to:

1. Stop Minato from teleporting near you
2. Create a distance between you and Minato so as to severely limit his speed

Granted he won't throw the kunai

You must be registered for see links

, but you can still thwart the path of the ones headed towards you. And stop them from landing behind you. This way you'd only need to be cautious of attacks originating in front of you

[U]You can prepare a defense[/U]
Ex.

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see images

This is to:

1. Avoid being tagged
2. Defend against an attacking kunai or Rasengan

You can anticipate

1. FTG requires hand seal(s) - so monitor his hands and react accordingly
2. He'd obviously attempt to teleport to the kunai closest to you

Also:

1. FTG comes with a cost. It still eats your chakra
2. Minato has a limited supply of kunai

In addition (this is extra, you don't have to read it):

Spoiler

Highest ranking jutsu

Spoiler

Their use is quite self-explanatory

• Izanagi
• Susano’o
• Amaterasu
• Shinra tensei

Low-class ninjutsu

Spoiler

1. You must be registered for see links
2. You must be registered for see links

High-class ninjutsu

Spoiler

Shadow Clone Jutsu
Uses:

1. Diversionary tactic
2. You must be registered for see links

Wind affinity

Spoiler

High-level Wind technique- use is quite self-explanatory - scatter away kunai

Earth affinity

Spoiler

1. You must be registered for see links
2. You must be registered for see links

Water affinity

Spoiler

1. You must be registered for see links
2. You must be registered for see links

Medical ninjutsu/Healing

Spoiler

1. You must be registered for see links
2. You must be registered for see links

Taijutsu

To paralyze/disable:
i.e. disable his body – a leg(s) or arm(s)

Spoiler

• You must be registered for see links
• Poison – Sasori

Match his speed or reflexes
(To react to his movement i.e. to react quickly enough to dodge his strike when he reappears after teleporting)

Spoiler

1. Gate release
2. Lightning Armour technique
3. Senjutsu augmented speed
4. Jinchuriki speed
5. Shunshin masters – Shisui, Sasuke…
6. Swift release
7. THREE tomoe sharingan precognition
8. Near 360 degree Byakugan vision

Intagibility

Spoiler

1. You must be registered for see links
2. You must be registered for see links
3. Kamui
4. You must be registered for see links

Flight

Spoiler

1. Oonoki
2. Muu
3. Gaara’s sand
4. Deidara’s clay
5. Sasuke’s hawk summoning
   --an air oriented summoning technique will suffice
6. Nagato
7. …

Kekkei genkai

Spoiler

You must be registered for see links

Targetting the kunai

Spoiler

1. Amaterasu kunai
2. Spoil seal formula – Lava KG…etc…

…

Target environment/surroundings

Destroy surroundings

Spoiler

To disperse of tagged kunai:

Smash ground – powerful chakra enhanced ground attack i.e Tsunade, Sakura...etc…

Advantage of terrain

Spoiler

Water –

You must be registered for see links

or other high-level water techniques

Air - flight

Desert – sinking kunai,

You must be registered for see links

Ladies and gentlemen, we've defeated FTG (or at least created a sort of stalemate).

1. Minato can't harm you
2. Minato can't outpace you
3. Minato can't get near you

please, just stop with FTG = instant death
that isn't true, at least when it comes to jounin

Minato is overrated.

the ftg is so fast that it's hard to even make a chakra nature type move and that could wven be the reason of tobi using chains
this tech does not require chakra
ftg actually has a flaw but won't get into taht since it's not that big
how can you even prepare from an instant attack do you think sasuke can then stop minato ftg tech
even if minato kunai are on the floor right next to sasuke (example) then minato can teleport to a kunai and mark sasuke on his foot easily

ther ways to get around the tech but not that way

 

[Swizzik]

If Nagato uses chakra sensing rain cant he track Minato?