Flying Thunder God Technique not all it's cracked up to be

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A/minato wont be in motion all the time, all it takes is that 1/100000 of a second of eye contact for tsukyomi to proceed and the long genjutsu is inescapable (unless if chakra is funnelled through).
who says they cant be in motion at all times....you see how the six tails was running around while fighting pain??
do you think itachi could catch that in a genjutsu and if you say yes your retatred he would have to pull out susono to save his life...at the moment


other than that A and minato are fast moving all around you and if your not as fast and strong you get merked
 
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I find it difficult to understand you, your spelling and grammar are quite poor. Please come back with better English



GTFO
Thats funny. Youve got no arguement, so you run around screaming
"BAD ENGLICH I CANT UNDERSTAND YOU THAT IS WRONG AND THIS IS WRONG"

But you know nearly nothing of to think logically. YOu created a defence, allright. But that defence isnt perfect at all, its quiet easy to break it by using FTG right. Maybe it would work we dont know, but thare are weakpoints inside your defence aswell as they are inside every Jutsu.
 

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trying to argue that minatos base speed was faster than sharingans eye contact

was a mistake fir you.
lmao how!?!?!

im done ppl on here make no sense lmao

can itachi capture kayoken goku in a genjutsu no cuz he is to fast

and if you cnt believe that the go **** your self
 

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There are two levels to FTG:

Level 1
Teleportation to a stationary object in the form of either a kunai or marked seal

Level 2
Teleportation to a moving object that is either a travelling kunai or a marked opponent

However, there are two glaring issues:

Kunai can be blocked

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(I know the picture shows shuriken but the point is still the same)
This is to:
  1. Stop Minato from teleporting near you
  2. Create a distance between you and Minato so as to severely limit his speed
Granted he won't throw the kunai , but you can still thwart the path of the ones headed towards you. And stop them from landing behind you. This way you'd only need to be cautious of attacks originating in front of you

You can prepare a defense
Ex.
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This is to:
  1. Avoid being tagged
  2. Defend against an attacking kunai or Rasengan
You can anticipate
  1. FTG requires hand seal(s) - so monitor his hands and react accordingly
  2. He'd obviously attempt to teleport to the kunai closest to you
Also:
  1. FTG comes with a cost. It still eats your chakra
  2. Minato has a limited supply of kunai
In addition (this is extra, you don't have to read it):
Highest ranking jutsu
Their use is quite self-explanatory
  • Izanagi
  • Susano’o
  • Amaterasu
  • Shinra tensei

Low-class ninjutsu

High-class ninjutsu
Shadow Clone Jutsu
Uses:
  1. Diversionary tactic
Wind affinity
High-level Wind technique- use is quite self-explanatory - scatter away kunai

Earth affinity

Water affinity

Medical ninjutsu/Healing

Taijutsu

To paralyze/disable:
i.e. disable his body – a leg(s) or arm(s)

  • Poison – Sasori

Match his speed or reflexes
(To react to his movement i.e. to react quickly enough to dodge his strike when he reappears after teleporting)

  1. Gate release
  2. Lightning Armour technique
  3. Senjutsu augmented speed
  4. Jinchuriki speed
  5. Shunshin masters – Shisui, Sasuke…
  6. Swift release
  7. THREE tomoe sharingan precognition
  8. Near 360 degree Byakugan vision

Intagibility
  1. Kamui

Flight

  1. Oonoki
  2. Muu
  3. Gaara’s sand
  4. Deidara’s clay
  5. Sasuke’s hawk summoning
    --an air oriented summoning technique will suffice
  6. Nagato

Kekkei genkai

Targetting the kunai
  1. Amaterasu kunai
  2. Spoil seal formula – Lava KG…etc…

Target environment/surroundings

Destroy surroundings
To disperse of tagged kunai:

Smash ground – powerful chakra enhanced ground attack i.e Tsunade, Sakura...etc…

Advantage of terrain
Water – or other high-level water techniques

Air - flight

Desert – sinking kunai,

Ladies and gentlemen, we've defeated FTG (or at least created a sort of stalemate).
  1. Minato can't harm you
  2. Minato can't outpace you
  3. Minato can't get near you
please, just stop with FTG = instant death
that isn't true, at least when it comes to jounin

Minato is overrated.
its true and the only person who could prolly fight him is an uchiha shown in your thread.
 

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who says they cant be in motion at all times....you see how the six tails was running around while fighting pain??
do you think itachi could catch that in a genjutsu and if you say yes your retatred he would have to pull out susono to save his life...at the moment


other than that A and minato are fast moving all around you and if your not as fast and strong you get merked
actually , im going to say yes, why? because the nine tails wasnt running around "all the time" , and there was moments of catching it in genjustu from either when it was running towards pain or when it took its moments to stop. this reason doesnt make anyone retarded so stop the abusive talk. also when A was fighting sasuke , he wasnt exactly running around all the time either , he stood still to make decisions on his next move right before sasuke used amaterasu. an opponent is going to need to stop and think to evaluate you know, not just run around so much that your hard to follow.
 
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trying to argue that minatos base speed was faster than sharingans eye contact

was a mistake fir you.
Eyecontact is necessary, so Minato has to look in Itachis eyes AND itachi mustve activated Tsukoyomi before. The other way it wouldnt work. If Minato knows that, hed just look at itachis feet, like Guy did or on his bodie, believe me it is possible.
Difficult, but Minato is moves without losing time. So why should he not be able to look at Itachis body?
 

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he does he can use shit to delfect a tbb really.....and that ws the full power nine tails stop sleeping on the 4th imo

the ppl that can maybe beat or have a good chance at beating 4th
so6p
nagato complete
madara present
1st and 2nd hokage

maybe third hokage

kage from cloud stone and mist villages

but if your not a kage you get merked
what about zabuza(if his mist tech comes in handy), kisame, itachi, sasori, konan, sasuke, jiraiya, orochimaru, naruto, kakuza(if he doesnt underistimate him like he did naruto)
 

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Idk why you guys continue to argue with this dude. He isn't using any facts at all. He's assuming and guessing everything. He made a thread like this a while ago. You can't win against pure slapdickery(I made that up lol)
Yes I am a fan of minato. I also am a fan of itachi gaara naruto jiraiya and rock lee. What's your point? I'm a fan of naruto period. Your making no sense. And I'm done with this thread bitch
I'll give you a reason to report me. You ready?
Suck my **** bitch:cool:

Preach bruh
Who made you god? That's the problem with this site. Everyone here thinks they are better than others. This is the Internet and this is a site about a cartoon. But yet you set people straight? Laugh my mother****ing ass off Come on bitch. I wanna get banned. Hurry up.
That's what I thought bitch. People like you are what make this site shitty. Going from thread to thread talking to people like your above them. Your full of shit. I'm done
funny sh!t bruh. Rep just for being funny
 
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he can use gen jutsu by pointing a finger at an oponent.
Yes it worked on Naruto Mister Genjutsunoob Nr 1

And even than, Naruto must have looked the movement, I remember. The other didnt got caught in that jutsu, cause using Genjutsu depends on several things

1. Intelligence and Skill of the user (Itachi would get 10/10 Points here)

2. Dojutsu (10/10 as well)

but
3. the Intelligence of the victim is as important as the intelligence of the user
(Minato isnt stupid and naive as Naruto, so it would work not as easy and not as fast)

4: Dojutsu of the Victim (Kakashi resistet the Tsukoyomi quiet three or four seconds before he got caught) And didnt you know that Minato has had Rinnegan?



Sorry joke, he never had the Rinnegan(i believe so), but we dont exactly know how fast Itachi can catch Minato in genjutsu
 
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itachi can make eye contact or point his finger.
before minato hrows his kunai for FTG.


ive destroyed your argument.
You just throw the Kunais into the air and look whats happening. You have at least a little base you can jump around.
As I mentioned, its necessary that the victim looks at Itachis fingers or eyes, so if you first ignore him, just look at his feet you can place a general base. From that you can make it much bigger.
Im not the expert of FTG so I dont know the prfect use, but i think thats kinda good start.
 
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Im a fan of Itachi, or at least his genjutsu, but he said himsalf that each technique got weakpoints. The weakpoints of most genjutsud we know is that the victim must look at the user.
 

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what about zabuza(if his mist tech comes in handy), kisame, itachi, sasori, konan, sasuke, jiraiya, orochimaru, naruto, kakuza(if he doesnt underistimate him like he did naruto)
orochimaruo i agree has a good chance,j-man whatever

ill say this if your not a kage level ninja you get merked and there is a big diff. between s-class and kage imo
 

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There are two levels to FTG:

Level 1
Teleportation to a stationary object in the form of either a kunai or marked seal

Level 2
Teleportation to a moving object that is either a travelling kunai or a marked opponent

However, there are two glaring issues:

Kunai can be blocked

You must be registered for see images

(I know the picture shows shuriken but the point is still the same)
This is to:
  1. Stop Minato from teleporting near you
  2. Create a distance between you and Minato so as to severely limit his speed
Granted he won't throw the kunai , but you can still thwart the path of the ones headed towards you. And stop them from landing behind you. This way you'd only need to be cautious of attacks originating in front of you

You can prepare a defense
Ex.
You must be registered for see images

This is to:
  1. Avoid being tagged
  2. Defend against an attacking kunai or Rasengan
You can anticipate
  1. FTG requires hand seal(s) - so monitor his hands and react accordingly
  2. He'd obviously attempt to teleport to the kunai closest to you
Also:
  1. FTG comes with a cost. It still eats your chakra
  2. Minato has a limited supply of kunai
In addition (this is extra, you don't have to read it):
Highest ranking jutsu
Their use is quite self-explanatory
  • Izanagi
  • Susano’o
  • Amaterasu
  • Shinra tensei

Low-class ninjutsu

High-class ninjutsu
Shadow Clone Jutsu
Uses:
  1. Diversionary tactic
Wind affinity
High-level Wind technique- use is quite self-explanatory - scatter away kunai

Earth affinity

Water affinity

Medical ninjutsu/Healing

Taijutsu

To paralyze/disable:
i.e. disable his body – a leg(s) or arm(s)

  • Poison – Sasori

Match his speed or reflexes
(To react to his movement i.e. to react quickly enough to dodge his strike when he reappears after teleporting)

  1. Gate release
  2. Lightning Armour technique
  3. Senjutsu augmented speed
  4. Jinchuriki speed
  5. Shunshin masters – Shisui, Sasuke…
  6. Swift release
  7. THREE tomoe sharingan precognition
  8. Near 360 degree Byakugan vision

Intagibility
  1. Kamui

Flight

  1. Oonoki
  2. Muu
  3. Gaara’s sand
  4. Deidara’s clay
  5. Sasuke’s hawk summoning
    --an air oriented summoning technique will suffice
  6. Nagato

Kekkei genkai

Targetting the kunai
  1. Amaterasu kunai
  2. Spoil seal formula – Lava KG…etc…

Target environment/surroundings

Destroy surroundings
To disperse of tagged kunai:

Smash ground – powerful chakra enhanced ground attack i.e Tsunade, Sakura...etc…

Advantage of terrain
Water – or other high-level water techniques

Air - flight

Desert – sinking kunai,

Ladies and gentlemen, we've defeated FTG (or at least created a sort of stalemate).
  1. Minato can't harm you
  2. Minato can't outpace you
  3. Minato can't get near you
please, just stop with FTG = instant death
that isn't true, at least when it comes to jounin

Minato is overrated.
This thread is fail (clearly a fan boy your image said it all) first of all his base speed is faster than lotus gate's around 5 to 6 gate(need proof? madara is fast, his hand didn't even get to move a split second.
this is lee 4 gate as you can see clearly see when he push gaara back in mid air, gaara body had time to show moment, so basically Minato moment when he caught his child (madara hand didn't get to move in time, only his mind thought about it. in general he might even be faster than gate's at his base speed, just not putting too much chakra to cash explosion because he doesn't need too. his hand throwing ability is on a whole new level madara couldn't dough it physically, he had to use his space time ability as well. madara ability to suck in people is extremly fast, and almost impossible to escape as shown here what was his words after minato escape it" he teleport talk about fast" next point proven look at his throwing ability, thats almost impossible to see(and before you say sharingan-it's not everything considering bee own sasuke with "speed" and bee, speed wasn't even close to minato speed and fighting ability. the guy threw his weapon and form a rasengan at the same time in "seconds after the other in mid air face to face with madara" all that shit about sasuke and itachi throwing shuriken guess what minato did it with 1 hand lol in the resent chapter when rai kage talk about his encounter with minato so don't tell me bs that itachi and sasuke can keep up with him and deffend in time key word's written by the owner, said by raikage "minato was the faster man in this world-and raikage has the right he fought with a sharingan user before"(all that sht you show with sasuke chidori nash he wouldn't have time to even put his hand in to formation( lol his eyes might that doesn't mean his body will react in time. itachi is my fav character and all that doesn't mean i am going to put him up against a legand the writer made known well clear that he was the faster ninja alive who's nickname is run in sight, who warp from a fish 1 centi from his face-all of itachi fire ability can't touch his space time barrior- sasuke chidori wouldn't even touch him-hand to hand combat would fail only hope itachi really has is to catch him by sealing him-remember only way madara the strongest guy in manga had to keep up with him was through his ability of space and time)(think about space and time and what it means-It means to go beyond the boundaries of space and time.
Actually, it is not difficult at all since both space and time are temporary illusions associated only with this present-temporary physical.
him and madara was not moving normal speed and when kishi makes the animation you will clearly see that these guys are on the next generation of speed.(even bigger proof, look when he grab naruto with his base speed in the last shiuppden move -9.40 mins in to it
 
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I agree with all the ways that you have listed that can dispatch the FTG technique, but the usual problem when comparing a character against minato is that the OP usually does not specify how much knowledge one character has about the other. Going up against FTG technique without knowledge is almost like going up against pain without knowledge.
 

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he does he can use shit to delfect a tbb really.....and that ws the full power nine tails stop sleeping on the 4th imo

the ppl that can maybe beat or have a good chance at beating 4th
so6p
nagato complete
madara present
1st and 2nd hokage

maybe third hokage

kage from cloud stone and mist villages

but if your not a kage you get merked
You forgot Itachi uchiha, And the Madara when he fought the 1st ( Not the present).

And minato didn't deflect the 9 tails TBB. He transported it to another location.
 
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