Nagato is a Monster and id say is the best (outside tobi with renningan now)

[Dragonfly X]

Also if nagato does any of the main abilities he will be negatively affected, like when he did Chibaku Tensei. He coughed up blood and was weaker after that, in the ninja world, if you start coughing up blood and have to stop for that, you are most likely dead by an ability from your opponent

 

[arv993]

against an advisory like nagato (who has a high chakra stamina) susano'o would be a last resort technique, being it cannot be sustained for long and after its released the user pays an horrible price (pain on a cellular, and chakra exhaustion). so its not like he's going to be able to use yata mirror throughout the whole fight or as he please to defend himself.

the nagato vs naruto fight is invalid in this argument being nagato's primary mission was to capture naruto to extract kyubi thus he could not could use full force. plus nagato had already burnt chakra flattening kohana to dust and raping most of they're chunin's and jounins.

he did almost everything in his fight against becos he did have to fight the kyubi so he did go full force but if you read my whole argument you would have seen deva pain can be taken out in the beginning by amaterasu. And at that point when itachi used susano he was in a near death state due to his sickness and that was also after using amaterasu to burn the whole ground, used ninjustu and also genjutsu against sasuke. he can last long enough to use it but i admit he would be in a near death state. If deva pain is taken care of, most of his formidable attacks are lost so afterwards itachi has to kill the others which is not hard becuse each only excels in a certain ability and can be taken care of with many different options not only susano. They can be taken care of using taijutsu(Itachi is good he has 4.5 in the databook and he is faster than sage mode naruto and sasuke just to let you kno he has 5 in speed) He also has a 5 ninjutsu and knos a lot of high lvl katon techs. And btw he can use his susano for quite a while becos if he does not waste his chakra like he did in his fight with sasuke where he uses a lot of genjutsu against sasuke and he was about to die anyway so his stamina was really low. But i think in both of their peaks itachi has an edge in all out fight.

 

[YIN YANG]

It would most likely be a draw or Itachi dying from to much chakra.

 

[DigitalMonster]

against an advisory like nagato (who has a high chakra stamina) susano'o would be a last resort technique, being it cannot be sustained for long and after its released the user pays an horrible price (pain on a cellular, and chakra exhaustion). so its not like he's going to be able to use yata mirror throughout the whole fight or as he please to defend himself

Don't forget that most of Rinnegan techs also purchase tons of chakra (mostly using Deva Path)

 

[YIN YANG]

Don't forget that most of Rinnegan techs also purchase tons of chakra (mostly using Deva Path)

But nagato has massive loads of chakra.:flaw:

 

[DigitalMonster]

Not anymore if he 'Shinra Tensei!' every 5 sec

 

[YIN YANG]

he desn't use that move carelessly remember it shortens his life

 

[ackeem1992]

he did almost everything in his fight against becos he did have to fight the kyubi so he did go full force but if you read my whole argument you would have seen deva pain can be taken out in the beginning by amaterasu. And at that point when itachi used susano he was in a near death state due to his sickness and that was also after using amaterasu to burn the whole ground, used ninjustu and also genjutsu against sasuke. he can last long enough to use it but i admit he would be in a near death state. If deva pain is taken care of, most of his formidable attacks are lost so afterwards itachi has to kill the others which is not hard becuse each only excels in a certain ability and can be taken care of with many different options not only susano. They can be taken care of using taijutsu(Itachi is good he has 4.5 in the databook and he is faster than sage mode naruto and sasuke just to let you kno he has 5 in speed) He also has a 5 ninjutsu and knos a lot of high lvl katon techs. And btw he can use his susano for quite a while becos if he does not waste his chakra like he did in his fight with sasuke where he uses a lot of genjutsu against sasuke and he was about to die anyway so his stamina was really low. But i think in both of their peaks itachi has an edge in all out fight.

nagato did'nt want to kill naruto thus he did not use full force (this is a fact), like i said if that was his primary mission naruto would've been dead.

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the fight would have been over at this point in the link above, nagato had him down on his face, and could have simply stabbed in the heart, kyubi vs nagato is was a different ball game.

regarding the nagato vs itachi its quite obvious that your just viewing this fight in one point of view (itachi's) and not the other side (nagato's). now explain to me how can itachi have the edge in a all out fight against nagato? when its 6 against 1, the odds is already in nagato's favor. at the beginning of battle's nagato always start off long range with animal path, the summons alone would be way too much for itachi to handle, being he doesn't use summons like that of animal paths caliber. so itachi killing deva path with amaterasu at the begining of the fight isn't so easy like you assumed, for itachi would be too busy fighting off giant summons, dodging asura paths missiles (that locks on to the target), stopping naraka path from ripping out his tounge, and at the same time dodging human path. ok lets say itachi manage's to to use amaterasu, it would get absorb by preta path or repelled by tendo pain. susanoo would be retrained with chibaku tensei, his katon jutsu's would also get absorbed. itachi by himself wouldn't stand a chance, even with tsuku.

 

[Inception]

nagato did'nt want to kill naruto thus he did not use full force (this is a fact), like i said if that was his primary mission naruto would've been dead.

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the fight would have been over at this point in the link above, nagato had him down on his face, and could have simply stabbed in the heart, kyubi vs nagato is was a different ball game.

regarding the nagato vs itachi its quite obvious that your just viewing this fight in one point of view (itachi's) and not the other side (nagato's). now explain to me how can itachi have the edge in a all out fight against nagato? when its 6 against 1, the odds is already in nagato's favor. at the beginning of battle's nagato always start off long range with animal path, the summons alone would be way too much for itachi to handle, being he doesn't use summons like that of animal paths caliber. so itachi killing deva path with amaterasu at the begining of the fight isn't so easy like you assumed, for itachi would be too busy fighting off giant summons, dodging asura paths missiles (that locks on to the target), stopping naraka path from ripping out his tounge, and at the same time dodging human path. ok lets say itachi manage's to to use amaterasu, it would get absorb by preta path or repelled by tendo pain. susanoo would be retrained with chibaku tensei, his katon jutsu's would also get absorbed. itachi by himself wouldn't stand a chance, even with tsuku.

Nagato's primary mission changed when Naruto took on the Fox cloak.

It's actually 1 vs 1. Just because Pain has 6 bodies does not mean an automatic victory. Itachi is still fighting one person. One Tsukiyomi is enough. Large scale Chibaku and Shinra Tensei requires Pain to focus all his powers in God Realm not to mention standing still. This is a perfect opportunity for Blade of Totsuka. His Gravitational powers also have 5 second gap.

Nagato is no push-over. Considering Pain also has a good defense due to his bodies, he is able to defeat Itachi by outlasting him but he cannot get through Itachi's defense with his techniques. Also, if he does plan to defend, he won't be able to use massive attacks . It's either defend or attack.

 

[ackeem1992]

Nagato's primary mission changed when Naruto took on the Fox cloak.

It's actually 1 vs 1. Just because Pain has 6 bodies does not mean an automatic victory. Itachi is still fighting one person. One Tsukiyomi is enough. Large scale Chibaku and Shinra Tensei requires Pain to focus all his powers in God Realm not to mention standing still. This is a perfect opportunity for Blade of Totsuka. His Gravitational powers also have 5 second gap.

Nagato is no push-over. Considering Pain also has a good defense due to his bodies, he is able to defeat Itachi by outlasting him but he cannot get through Itachi's defense with his techniques. Also, if he does plan to defend, he won't be able to use massive attacks . It's either defend or attack.

nagato's primary mission was just the same (capture kyubi) hence he would not use chibaku tensei.

fail, its 6 versus 1 hence you would'nt have to kill each individual body. i didn't say it was automatic victory either what i stated is that the odds of winning is in nagato's favor being itachi is fighting 6 people and doesn't even have summons, nagato doesn't stay still or focus all of his power into a normal shinra tensei, and nagato wouldn't even need to use a large scale chibaku or shinra tensei on itachi. note itachi is fighting not one but 6 people at the same time, thus even if nagato was charging a large scale shinra or chibaku the five other paths would be there to cover him.

again itachi's ultimate defense cannot be sustained for long, and when its release it becomes a huge double edge sword.

 

[Inception]

nagato's primary mission was just the same (capture kyubi) hence he would not use chibaku tensei.

fail, its 6 versus 1 hence you would'nt have to kill each individual body. i didn't say it was automatic victory either what i stated is that the odds of winning is in nagato's favor being itachi is fighting 6 people and doesn't even have summons, nagato doesn't stay still or focus all of his power into a normal shinra tensei, and nagato wouldn't even need to use a large scale chibaku or shinra tensei on itachi. note itachi is fighting not one but 6 people at the same time, thus even if nagato was charging a large scale shinra or chibaku the five other paths would be there to cover him.

again itachi's ultimate defense cannot be sustained for long, and when its release it becomes a huge double edge sword.

I think you missed the part where all 5 bodies just collapse when he used a large Shinra Tensei. Same thing would happen with Chibaku. All he has is God Realm defense while he puts up Shinra or Chibaku and that too has a 5 second interval. Fighting 6 bodies at once would not be a big deal as Yata Mirror can prevent any type of attack while keeping the bodies busy. What will Pain do?

Moreover, like I mentioned, 1 Tsukiyomi is enough to deal with Nagato.

 

[arv993]

nagato did'nt want to kill naruto thus he did not use full force (this is a fact), like i said if that was his primary mission naruto would've been dead.

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the fight would have been over at this point in the link above, nagato had him down on his face, and could have simply stabbed in the heart, kyubi vs nagato is was a different ball game.

regarding the nagato vs itachi its quite obvious that your just viewing this fight in one point of view (itachi's) and not the other side (nagato's). now explain to me how can itachi have the edge in a all out fight against nagato? when its 6 against 1, the odds is already in nagato's favor. at the beginning of battle's nagato always start off long range with animal path, the summons alone would be way too much for itachi to handle, being he doesn't use summons like that of animal paths caliber. so itachi killing deva path with amaterasu at the begining of the fight isn't so easy like you assumed, for itachi would be too busy fighting off giant summons, dodging asura paths missiles (that locks on to the target), stopping naraka path from ripping out his tounge, and at the same time dodging human path. ok lets say itachi manage's to to use amaterasu, it would get absorb by preta path or repelled by tendo pain. susanoo would be retrained with chibaku tensei, his katon jutsu's would also get absorbed. itachi by himself wouldn't stand a chance, even with tsuku.

I never said this is an easy fight for itachi, read my other posts, i am not an itachi fanboy nor do i hate nagato. But you are making it seem like the dogs are the most powerful thing the world and just because you can't come up with good argument against me you are making it seem like the dogs will kill itachi easy, he can dodge. And dude i say many things in which i use a lot of scenarios and explain why itachi wins in an all out fight but i would admit that if it was was the way pain fought jiraya where he kept concealing himself then pain would win. But in an all out fight a decently healthy(anything better than at the end of his life where he was dying like in sasuke's fight) if he takes out deva pain what would the others do. he can also stop someone in their tracks with his genjutsu like the absorber and deal with the others with his ultimate defense and offense susano(he can bring it out fast too like he did in sasuke's fight), all he has to do is kill the summoner by using sword of totsuka and problem over(she is especially slow she could not even dodge a rasenshuriken and sword of totsuka is fast can seal her forever). As for the rest of the pains they are not a problem at all if you think about it the robotic guy is weak and can be taken down by taijutsu, the reviving guy can't do anything about ppl who are sealed inside a sword and the last one can be killed by regular ninjutsu. Itachi is smart and knows how to fight well and his main problems are deva, absorber and summoning girl and they need amaterasu, genjutsu and susano and for the rest they are not strong and can be taken out with moderate difficulty in his ninjutsu. And deva pain did go all out either way, yes he would have killed naruto but afterwards he had to face the kyubi and showed off all his powers so we did see him go all out. BTw itachi is smart(5 in the databook) and after seeing how each path fights would kno who are the main obstacles, all itachi has to do is see a sample of pain's powers by using only small scale jutsus and would find out things like who is the absorber, and kno deva pain's abilities and the girl who uses summoning and would use the his more powerful powers to take them out and no in the beggining they can't take itachi out because the dogs and everything is not that powerful and can easily be dodged, he is considerably fast. Judging by intelligence, genjutsu, and his powers of the susano he can pull out a win against 6 ppl. And just becos it is 6v1 does not mean that nagato is gonna win, Itachi with his abilities can take out the powerful ones and the weak ones are not much of trouble. the missiles you mentioned can be destroyed and if you think that just a bunch of summons can kill itachi it shows your bias, he is regarded as the genius of the uchiha clan and you think a bunch of summonings which he can defend against or even dodge easily would alone handle him. I do not underestimate nagato, he has the most amazing abilities in the series like all the paths are unique but itachi's ms powers are powerful,deadly and fast and one things those bodies lack are speed to dodge things like amaterasu and the sword of totsuka, Unless you show them with good speed feats i don't think itachi would allow someone like deva pain pull off chibaku tensei or ultimate shinra tensei(he is vulnerable at those points he has to summon up a lot of chakra) cause all he has to do is see him and use amaterasu or one of his other techs, if deva is out it goes in itachi's favor.

 

[Deidara Akatsuki]

So based off the recent chapter its safe to say Nagato is nearly unstoppable! he has all 6 paths of pain powers in one body, and that is to muvh for any ninja.

absorb all ninjutsu, summon crazy monsters, weapons/missiles, gravity, shinra/chibaku tensei, revive the dead, instant death if grabbed, gedo mazou, all elements, etc etc . plus his huge huge huge amount of chakra. i think he is literally the perfect ninja (out side madara with renningan ofc).

who can defeat him if he starts off with 6 paths of pain then you have to find and face nagato with all there powers in one body???

my list goes
0- SO6P, dont count him since he is like the god of naruto
1- Tobi with renningan; cant touch him, genjutsu, renningan abilitys, teleports, etc etc
2- Nagato, nuff said (or kabuto and him switch)
3-Kabuto- he is just getting started with these edo summons
4- 1st hokage,

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5- Madara Uchiha with EMS, the one that fought onoki and hashirama
6- Muu;

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if you dont have Muu in your top 5 or 10 you are not a true fair fan..
7- minato, ofc (or 3rd hokage)
8-itachi, could switch with minato
9- Killer bee, could switch with itachi and minato
10- naruto or sasuke (but they will be one and two in the future ofc..)

if you disagree come at me, but pls no noobs..

Im sorry.

The first is a given. you got that,

But kabutoro is number 2... No doubt.

He has 2 of those people in the top 10 in his control.

Madara is 3rd with his rinnegan and his tailed beasts.

Minato/Naruto/Itachi are the following 3 in some order.

 

[arv993]

nagato can repel amaterasu so now i gotta say it makes the fight harder

 

[Draegod]

and the new chapter comforms that nagato is indeed a beast! any form of taijutsu just results in your chakra being took away! and then if your close enuff your soul aswell!!!! just a beast!!!!

 

[arv993]

and the new chapter comforms that itachi is indeed a beast! any form of taijutsu just results in your chakra being took away! and then if your close enuff your sould aswell!!!! just a beast!!!!

u mean nagato right

 

[Draegod]

THEN IT IS PROOF HE CAN JUST SHINRA TENSEI THE AMERTERATSU OFF! and since it burns slow, that jutsu is as good as useless on deva path, or nagato himself.

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then he actually did something not even kisame could do,he absorb V2 chakra 100% instantly with out taking the damage of bees best move!

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. sooooooo it is safe to assume nagato is the best ninja like i said outside of tobi with the renningan, because now tobi has all these powers with his sharingan!

 

[arv993]

THEN IT IS PROOF HE CAN JUST SHINRA TENSEI THE AMERTERATSU OFF! and since it burns slow, that jutsu is as good as useless on deva path, or nagato himself.

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then he actually did something not even kisame could do,he absorb V2 chakra 100% instantly with out taking the damage of bees best move!

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. sooooooo it is safe to assume nagato is the best ninja like i said outside of tobi with the renningan, because now tobi has all these powers with his sharingan!

what about tsukiyomi or sword of totsuka how can nagato defend against that.

 

[Draegod]

what about tsukiyomi or sword of totsuka how can nagato defend against that.

im not talking about the edo nagato. im talking about the 6 paths of pain firts, then you fight nagato with all in one body. even you have to admit that itachi want even stand a chance....

and with the sword, well how bout nagato just chibaku tensei the whole susanoo to avoid it.lol and the gen.. well id say is useless against the 6 paths, but might do something to nagato... if itachi has enuff chakra to pull it off from fighting the 6 paths..

 

[arv993]

im not talking about the edo nagato. im talking about the 6 paths of pain firts, then you fight nagato with all in one body. even you have to admit that itachi want even stand a chance....

and with the sword, well how bout nagato just chibaku tensei the whole susanoo to avoid it.lol and the gen.. well id say is useless against the 6 paths, but might do something to nagato... if itachi has enuff chakra to pull it off from fighting the 6 paths..

You kno that he was nagato was actually hurt and his arms were burned off and becos of edo tensei he regenerated and used shinra tensei look here is the link

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So this won't happen in to the real pain cause would not have arms