Nagato is a Monster and id say is the best (outside tobi with renningan now)

[Turson]

what about tsukiyomi or sword of totsuka how can nagato defend against that.

Tsukiyomi - by simply not looking into Itachis eyes.
Sword of Totsuka - can be reppeled with Shinra Tensei, also Nagato can trap Susanoo along with Itachi with Chibaku Tensei.

 

[YIN YANG]

You kno that he was nagato was actually hurt and his arms were burned off and becos of edo tensei he regenerated and used shinra tensei look here is the link

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So this won't happen in to the real pain cause would not have arms

he can revive that pain.:flaw:

 

[arv993]

he can revive that pain.:flaw:

i don't think that can be done that fast because nagato wasn't dead he was just burning and within all the time itachi was talking in a real fight it would have been over by sword of totsuka or by other means.

 

[arv993]

Tsukiyomi - by simply not looking into Itachis eyes.
Sword of Totsuka - can be reppeled with Shinra Tensei, also Nagato can trap Susanoo along with Itachi with Chibaku Tensei.

not that simple and itachi has other genjutsu in which he can use his hands, Itachi knos how to get ppl under his genjutsu, he is a master at it. And chibaku tensei takes time by that time sword of totsuka can seal him, and shinra tensei can be blocked with yata mirror so sword of totsuka is cannot be overcome that easily

 

[YIN YANG]

not that simple and itachi has other genjutsu in which he can use his hands, Itachi knos how to get ppl under his genjutsu, he is a master at it. And chibaku tensei takes time by that time sword of totsuka can seal him, and shinra tensei can be blocked with yata mirror so sword of totsuka is cannot be overcome that easily

and so can planetary devestation can be overcomed that easily.

 

[Lord Snow]

nagato looks invincible

 

[arv993]

and so can planetary devestation can be overcomed that easily.

i told you that is takes time and a lot of chakra making him vulnerable(in which time itachi can attack) right why don't you fully read my posts.

 

[carbon]

nagato is the strongest ninja. he has inherited the sage of six paths eyes. even though he was damaged by amaterasu even without the restoration of edo tensei he could still be restored by his naraka path.

I cant post a link yet but you can look it up on naruto wikia: naraka path



even though nagato is now 1 being he posseses the naraka path ability himself so 1st the shinra tensei then the naraka path against amaterasu.

obviously the rinnegan is uniquely powerful and only 1 person has it at the moment and it is madara. its the most rare and powerful dojutsu and the person possesing it gets almost full invincibility. its kind of logical because the sage of six paths had it and he is insanely overpowered and godly and since his power came mainly from the rinnegan its pretty clear to me that nagato is stronger than itachi.

if someone gets too close nagato takes your chakra and pulls out your soul

if someone uses ninjutsu he absorbs it.

if someone uses genjutsu he probably has a rinne technique against that

and he kills you with 5 elements or yin yang release

so nagato is a weaker version of the so6p =

 

[arv993]

nagato is the strongest ninja. he has inherited the sage of six paths eyes. even though he was damaged by amaterasu even without the restoration of edo tensei he could still be restored by his naraka path.

I cant post a link yet but you can look it up on naruto wikia: naraka path



even though nagato is now 1 being he posseses the naraka path ability himself so 1st the shinra tensei then the naraka path against amaterasu.

obviously the rinnegan is uniquely powerful and only 1 person has it at the moment and it is madara. its the most rare and powerful dojutsu and the person possesing it gets almost full invincibility. its kind of logical because the sage of six paths had it and he is insanely overpowered and godly and since his power came mainly from the rinnegan its pretty clear to me that nagato is stronger than itachi.

if someone gets too close nagato takes your chakra and pulls out your soul

if someone uses ninjutsu he absorbs it.

if someone uses genjutsu he probably has a rinne technique against that

and he kills you with 5 elements or yin yang release

so nagato is a weaker version of the so6p =

Well he is extremely powerful however he cannot beat susano's sword of totsuka and yata mirror which just shields everything, so if he were to use shinra tensei with that 5 second limit itachi has plenty of time to use sword of totsuka, and not mention that you have no proof that tsukiyomi does not work we have seen other genjutsu like frog song work on his paths so you can't just say that genjutsu can't work and itachi is a master of it. And amaterasu does hurt nagato and burns his arms off and it was because of edo tensei that it came back and if you read the link on naruto wikia it says it takes some time to repair and heal for the nakara path , not in an instant just to let you kno. Here is the link

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[YIN YANG]

i told you that is takes time and a lot of chakra making him vulnerable(in which time itachi can attack) right why don't you fully read my posts.

yea i know it takes time but he can still move when he's doin it and it doesn't take alot of time for that technique.

 

[arv993]

yea i know it takes time but he can still move when he's doin it and it doesn't take alot of time for that technique.

you are contradicting yourself that it takes time then it doesn't take time so idk what you are talking about. But nagat still gets hurt by amaterasu and is vulnerable for 5 seconds after he uses shinra tensei and itachi can within that time kill nagato, and he can use amaterasu a multiple times to slow down nagato. And when he uses chibaku tensei he takes time and uses a lot of his chakra and even coughs blood you think Itachi won't have enough time to hit in that time.

 

[carbon]

Well he is extremely powerful however he cannot beat susano's sword of totsuka and yata mirror which just shields everything, so if he were to use shinra tensei with that 5 second limit itachi has plenty of time to use sword of totsuka, and not mention that you have no proof that tsukiyomi does not work we have seen other genjutsu like frog song work on his paths so you can't just say that genjutsu can't work and itachi is a master of it. And amaterasu does hurt nagato and burns his arms off and it was because of edo tensei that it came back and if you read the link on naruto wikia it says it takes some time to repair and heal for the nakara path , not in an instant just to let you kno. Here is the link

Probably a strong doton will stop that sword but we dont know yet how the rinnegan reacts to genjutsu because if tsukiyomi works against nagato it would work against the sage of six paths and that doesnt seem likely thats why i said "probably". Also amaterasu can be absorbed by a path but kabuto wasnt counting on itachi suddenly turning against him. nagato already fealt itachi going for amaterasu and he would be able to prepare for it. Nagato would also be able to absorb things like kirin. also itachi cant hold up susasnoo for long

 

[YIN YANG]

you are contradicting yourself that it takes time then it doesn't take time so idk what you are talking about. But nagat still gets hurt by amaterasu and is vulnerable for 5 seconds after he uses shinra tensei and itachi ca within that time kill nagato, and he use amaterasu a multiple times to slow down nagato. And when he uses chibaku tensei he takes time and uses a lot of his chakra and even coughs blood you think Itachi won't have enough time to hit in that time.

what im sayin is planetary devestation doesn't need to much time
and you cough up blood and bleed form your eyes with ms tech too.

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[YIN YANG]

plus nagato can summon gedo mazou

 

[arv993]

Probably a strong doton will stop that sword but we dont know yet how the rinnegan reacts to genjutsu because if tsukiyomi works against nagato it would work against the sage of six paths and that doesnt seem likely thats why i said "probably". Also amaterasu can be absorbed by a path but kabuto wasnt counting on itachi suddenly turning against him. nagato already fealt itachi going for amaterasu and he would be able to prepare for it. Nagato would also be able to absorb things like kirin. also itachi cant hold up susasnoo for long

oh i forgot becos i was used to arguing against the 6 paths but you are right he would absorb it but the fact he can be caught by genjutsu is right now an unknown and he is not on the same lvl as sage who created the moon and can use izangi all he wants so stop bringing that argument, but a doton won't keep itachi out for 5 seconds, no way itachi could easily destoy it and seal him, and genjutsu i would say still probably would work if his paths got caught in frog song.

 

[arv993]

what im sayin is planetary devestation doesn't need to much time
and you cough up blood and bleed form your eyes with ms tech too.

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bleeding of the eyes only occurs in amaterasu but not susano he was coughing up blood because he was almost dying from his ilness.

 

[arv993]

plus nagato can summon gedo mazou

also takes too much time and a lot of chakra. nagato would win against anyone if he was just did not have to take a decent amount of time for each of his techs and his 5 second limit, if he did not have those he would beat everyone but that period ppl like itachi with sword of totsuka can take advantage of

 

[carbon]

oh i forgot becos i was used to arguing against the 6 paths but you are right he would absorb it but the fact he can be caught by genjutsu is right now an unknown and he is not on the same lvl as sage who created the moon and can use izangi all he wants so stop bringing that argument, but a doton won't keep itachi out for 5 seconds, no way itachi could easily destoy it and seal him, and genjutsu i would say still probably would work if his paths got caught in frog song.

Im not talking about his paths im talking about nagato himself. he now has all the paths power in one strong body. Nagato has the sage of six paths powers just not as strong. And the rinnegan > ms. We dont know what happens if a genjutsu is cast against the person actually having the rinnegan. Nagato blocked the minds of some of his subordinates of the rain village so enemies cant gather intel so he can do some genjutsu. The sword of totsuka can be dodged and amaterasu absorbed. so he wouldnt even need shinra tensei. nagato is master of yin release yan release and yin yan release that means he can use high ranking genjutsu

 

[arv993]

Im not talking about his paths im talking about nagato himself. he now has all the paths power in one strong body. Nagato has the sage of six paths powers just not as strong. And the rinnegan > ms. We dont know what happens if a genjutsu is cast against the person actually having the rinnegan. Nagato blocked the minds of some of his subordinates of the rain village so enemies cant gather intel so he can do some genjutsu. The sword of totsuka can be dodged and amaterasu absorbed. so he wouldnt even need shinra tensei. nagato is master of yin release yan release and yin yan release that means he can use high ranking genjutsu

sword of totsuka is not slow but fast in an instant killed oro without him even noticing and unless there are speed feats from nagato he can't dodge it, he is not that fast. Genjutsu i am not a 100% sure of it is a hit or mis but just becos ms is better than rinnegan is not an automatic genjutsu resistant nagato. Yes nagato is good at genjutsu so is itachi and is stated in manga as the most gifted user of the uchiha clan so anything is possible.Unless the manga states otherwise genjutsu is still possible.

 

[Inception]

Im not talking about his paths im talking about nagato himself. he now has all the paths power in one strong body. Nagato has the sage of six paths powers just not as strong. And the rinnegan > ms. We dont know what happens if a genjutsu is cast against the person actually having the rinnegan. Nagato blocked the minds of some of his subordinates of the rain village so enemies cant gather intel so he can do some genjutsu. The sword of totsuka can be dodged and amaterasu absorbed. so he wouldnt even need shinra tensei. nagato is master of yin release yan release and yin yan release that means he can use high ranking genjutsu

They share vision. A genjutsu cast against a body is the same as being cast against the user.