Sasuke's Powers Unfair?

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Okay now I know I've rambled alot about this stuff so this is probably the last I will say. Yes this was like the one weakness I thought Sasuke would have but then wouldn't you know it, Sasuke sees Naruto for like ten minutes and rather than go train his ass off like what Naruto has to do everytime he has been beaten; Sasuke just cheats and is like 'okay madara give me Itachi's eyes' and now that problem will go away like it never existed. I guess the point behind all of my arguments here is that Sasuke is sooo arrogant and it just feels like he deserves to be served up some humility and every time he comes close in part 2 (Deidara and Itachi), he pulls a victory out of his ass and is like 'yeah I knew I wouldn't need any help.' Just once, thats all I'm asking Sasuke needs to be completely and utterly defeated in battle (not die, just not able to keep fighting, or run away like he did with the four kage)

I agree totally. :D
 

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Oh go cry me a river. geez dude. Sasuke works his ****ing ass off for what he gets, i dont see naruto going around assaulting a building full of kages and shit.
Seeing that how many times he needed to be rescued during that assault rather an arrogant yet really stupid act. Not a sign of a genious or even a mature shinobi- just a power drunk Uchiha- A trait which turned Itachi against his own clan..

All naruto did for sage mode was get covered in oil, sit and get beat over the head by a frog, that, my friend, is unfair.
Now that's a completely biased comment. You disregard the risks and hard work by Naruto and seem to think that the sun rises out of Sasuke's butt. Naruto could have turned in stone , yet he took the risk and worked hard.

Both of them have worked hard and suffered in their own way. The main difference at the momemt is , is that Naruto tries to be strength of his mates and Sasuke is just using eveybody's shoulder to go up. Once he is up he ignores the person he stepped over to reach his next goal. That attitude needs to be changed.
 
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okay I may, IN THEORY, be willing to believe that every cell in his body hurts or whatever when he uses it but still I mean come one, when Itachi used it he was puking blood(yes i know other stuff happened before that) and he looked like he was about to keel over whereas sasuke is just unphased, as if summoning this giant monster skeleton is just a reflex. (which it basically is at this point)
Did you ever think that the reason Susanoo had such an impact on Itachi's body was because Itachi was very sick in his fight against Sasuke and had to take medicine to prolong his life as well as having side effects of using the MS for 8 years already? I'm sure that Itachi wouldn't have had that bad of a side effect from using Susanoo when he first would have released it when his eyes were still well and he wasnt sick.
 

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Okay I was prepared for someone to bring this point up, YES the kyuubi has been a huge boost in Naruto's power when he needed it. But it was completely different mainly because there were consequences for it being someone else's power, Sasuke's Susano'o, from what we can see basically just depletes his chakra and slowly damages his vision (and no not permanently because just like every other time Sasuke has had a problem, kishimoto writes in a magical solution, being Itachi's sharingan transplant, I also was never very clear on how someone can have eyes transplanted into them when they already have eyes but whatever...) but back to my point which is that Naruto had like zero control over the Kyuubi in part 2, I'll admit that in part 1, he was really able to use it to his advantage. But then in part 2, Naruto can't even see straight in his one tails, I mean its almost comical how much energy Naruto wastes once he is using the Kyuubi's chakra, then theres the fact that he can't tell friend from foe and THEN theres the fact that its basically taboo to use it because the ninetails could go nuclear and completely take over, so to some up the ninetails power is more of a liability in shipudden than an asset, which is what makes him stop using it almost completely from after he attacks Sakura until he loses it when Hinata almost dies. Now how Kyuubi's controlled chakra will help him in the future, only time will tell since we haven't really seen it in action yet.

Now onto Sage mode, yes sage mode is superrr cool and it boosts basically all of his skill (probably giving himself just a slight edge, if any over sasuke) but there is a huge drawback, it only lasts for five minutes unless he has time to prepare clones beforehand to meditate and accumulate nature chakra (and seriously, when will he ever have time for that again):confused:

And with the brink of death point, Sasuke has got Naruto waayy beat on that count I mean it is so unfair 1. with his fight with Deidara, Sasuke somehow has enough time to summon Manda, cast a genjustu on him, then crawl into its stomach and reverse summon him??? Come on people I mean Naruto either gets his ass kicked or he kicks ass but rarely anything in between. But sasuke just walks up to Akatsuki guys that no one has been able to beat and is just like "hey tell me what i wanna know and I won't beat your ass" 2. Itachi sooooo had him beat I mean Sasuke looked like he was about to crap his pants when Itachi was walking toward him (yes I know that Itachi had no real intention of killing his little brother but now everyone is like 'bow to the mighty Sasuke, the slayer of the great orochimaru and powerful Itachi, when in reality, yes he fought hard but they were both flukes, Sasuke even admitted this about Orochimaru. Then we go to the five kage summit, where by this point his ego is so over-inflated that he thinks he's unbeatable 'five kage? ha no sweat, give me ten minutes' is his attitude and people actually BELIEVE IT, both Bunjiro and Ao from the mist made a remark or possibly a thought that was like 'Uchiha Sasuke? the one who defeated Zabuza and Haku?) HE DID NO SUCH THING AND ITS RIDICULOUS THAT PEOPLE WOULD EVEN SUGGEST IT, LET ALONE BELIEVE IT!

and look I'm seriously not a Sasuke hater, he is actually a pretty good character and the complexity of the adversary relationship with Naruto makes it so much more interesting than your 'run of the mill' bad guy, I am totally willing to say that Sasuke worked his ass off when he was younger to compete with Itachi and then even more after his clan was annihilated. BUT, what I'm trying to say is that it really irks me that Sasuke is just generally better at everything, without really trying at this point and Naruto is ALWAYS then underdog, in EVERY fight, it just gets tiresome I guess. I have rambled quite a bit here but I mean every word
Naruto hasn't won a fight in Part l without Kyubi interfering; With Haku, Gaara, Sasuke, Kabuto, etc.

Sasuke in Part l revealed his true potential (Sharingan) which isn't given, but inherited in the Uchiha clan.
Note: Mangkeyo Sharingan and furthermore are the evolution of the Uchiha clan's potential (Jubi).

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Sage Mode is a huge boost of chakra and raw power, and while it's drawbacks are obvious, he has Kyubi-Mode to compensate for that.

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That shows the skills of Sasuke Uchiha, using what he has to his conscious and capitalizing on such, whereas Naruto's is almost always subconscious, until Kyubi makes it a reality.

Itachi Uchiha planned for Sasuke Uchiha to surpass him, and the fact that Sasuke survived all of Itachi's attacks [Tsukuyomi, Amaterasu, Susano'o] and arguably took all of them to new heights only confirm Sasuke is superior.

Sasuke's intent at the summit was to kill Danzo, but he also wanted to test Susano'o, which was a success.

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Naruto is always the "underdog" because Sasuke Uchiha is better at nearly everything.
 

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So I probably am not the first person to ask this question but does anyone else think its crap how Sasuke's powers are just unfair? I mean I could go on and on but the long, short of it is, he developed Sharingan, and the initial powers of the Sharingan are vague at best, the consensus being "they have the power to see the flow of chakra" so basically every time Sasuke's Sharingan upgrade in part 1, he gets sort of an unexplainable boost in power (strength, speed etc) just because of his eyes. But then in part two it gets even more ridiculous with the Mangekyo Sharingan. I mean, I'm not disputing that Sasuke, shouldn't be powerful at all but it seems like half the time its the involuntary actions of his eyes that give him his skill.

I mean for example, I just watched episode 209
and Danzo TOTALLY had the drop on him at some point, I mean the look in Sasuke's eyes was like "holy shit I am so about to die" (I'm not a Danzo fan or anything but still) and through NO action or intent of his own Susanoo just protects him.
I mean its a little ridiculous, with Itachi at least we had some boundaries, he would get tired after using both Tsukoyomi and Amaterasu (spelling?) in the same day and Susano'o was his final trump card and itachi was vomiting blood because it took such a toll on his but Sasuke just does it any time he's in a bit of a bind. I mean I guess it just irks me to see Naruto work his ass for for 400 and some episodes and then FINALLY gets somewhat strong (except he still usually gets his ass kicked when it comes to anything but raw strength and power) but Sasuke matches every step and then some; by what appears to be genetic luck. :flaw:

I know i rambled a bit but I'm curious about how people feel about this.

itachi was vomitting blood because its believed that he was poisioned and was dying we all knew that
 

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well if you think about it the uchihas were a pretty strong clan now Sasuke alone burdens the entire uchiha cuz hes the last one whats so unfair about his powers. he is the last of a dying breed that goes waaaaaaaaaay back to the beginning of the leaf village and was born from so6p. thats why the senju tried to kill the entire uchiha cuzthey feared there power if every uchiha could unlock the MS they would be the strongest ninjas in NARUTO but Danzo ****ed that all up by ordering itachi to kill them all but Sasuke.
 

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Oh go cry me a river. geez dude. Sasuke works his ****ing ass off for what he gets, i dont see naruto going around assaulting a building full of kages and shit. All naruto did for sage mode was get covered in oil, sit and get beat over the head by a frog, that, my friend, is unfair.
for some techniques yeah. but his ms was given to him and now hez got itachi's eyes.... dats just cheating.
 
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I believe Sasuke summoned Manda then used the genjustu to have Manda eat him and he then let Manda get blasted while he was safe inside him. If he reversed summoned him then Manda wouldn't have died.

What are you referring to when you say he just walks up to Akatsuki members and says "hey tell me what i wanna know and I won't beat your ass"? I don't recalled him doing that except when he asked Danzo if it was true that Itachi was given orders to his clan but I doubt that's what you're talking about.
I also think it's bullsh*t how people think Sasuke defeated Zabuza. The credit really belongs to Kakashi, although Zabuza was killed after he took on the mob and got stabbed multiple time by random members of the mob.
Okay I may have taken Sasuke's comment here out of context with Deidara, Deidara did approach him to challenge the Sharingan because of his grudge with Itachi so its not like Sasuke started this fight, but when Deidara approached Sasuke was demanding giving Deidara no respect (Not that I'm saying he's worthy of respect) and even though Deidara was a weirdo and I didn't like him, he still was pretty strong (he got Gaara) and Sasuke just acted like 'I am me, bow down and worship and then tell me where Itachi is' (yeah the bowing down part I might have made up :p. But yeah with the Zabuza deal, its ridiculous, Sasuke was trembling in fear, so afraid that he was considering killing himself until Kakashi shook him out of it and somehow Sasuke got credit for that victory (makes no sense) So yeah I agree
 

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Naruto has Kyubi and Sage Mode. Do you think it's unfair every time he's on the brink of death one of those two excluding his friends save him?
Naruto earned sage mode and can't even use it fully because of the nine-tails. It is a burden to him since it used to take some of his own chakra to suppress it. Sasuke had and has no such burdens other than not having the same amount of chakra as Naruto, which he wouldn't have had anyway. Sasuke was given everything, he is a good ninja but without the sharingan he wouldn't be where he is, whereas Naruto would still have learned sage mode on his own and then would be able to use it fully.
 

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I agree with you man.
1- Naruto train his ass hard to get rasengan, rasen-shuriken ( spelling? ), Sage-mod and last one to get nine-tails chakra ( k mb not so hard the last one...). Bur think little what is the price of uses rasen-shuriken ( if he use it too much will cut his "chakar veins" ), for sage-mod [ he could turn in stone (thank to that little frog for help ) ] and of course for nine-tails chakra again he could lose his body.
2- I never saw Sasuke training so hard ( maybe lightning blade ) or there to be a big price to pay if u can't gain the power for what u train or for overuses...
Sasuke is like "****, i don't have the power to defeat this guy -_- and in next 2 min he gain the power form nowhere".
I want to see Sasuke dead ( I know this will not happen ) or maybe to lose his powers/ability. I say that because he is too arrogant and full of himself.

Ok, I think I got a little too seriously? xD
Yeah we're on the same page here but you reminded me of something. Then beginning of Sasuke's powers being unfair started when he learned the Chidori (Kakashi playing favorites ugh), okay so in the span of like 3 weeks Sasuke increased his speed to almost match Lee's who worked his ass off every day for years and Kakashi's reasoning was he used his Sharingan to "imagine Lee's taijustu style" I'm sorry but no matter how powerful your eyes are, you can't increase the strength and speed of your legs by using your eyes. So this is not a new trend to Sasuke magically increasing his abilities.
 

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Not really because his powers are the hardest because every time he uses his MS his whole body hurt and he tryes so i say naruto and sasuke went thourth the most pain
 
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