Itachi vs "xyz"

Who Can Beat Itachi? (poll is multi. can choose more than 1)


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Wait what?

I understand that fanboys believe Itachi can beat almost anyone, but you're almost doing the opposite now.

First of all, we don't know enough about zetsu, except that he could have lost to naruto (tobi told him that he is not a front line fighter). KinGin are actually 2 people so it's not 1on1. Kakashi was already beaten by Itachi and we know Itachi is faster than kakashi because it was stated in the manga. It would be a win for Itachi. Yamato is not stronger than Kakashi. Deidara was ownd by Itachi and most likely would be again. We don't know much about Kabuto, except that he can summon and that's not so much 1on1, it more like 100 on 1 since Kabuto can decide to not control some shinobi and they would still function.

I agree that the rest are debatable.
lol i see where your coming from. i did name quite a few but they all imo stand a good chance in defeating Itachi.

Zetsu because of all his wierd powers and his full capabilites are still unknown. theirs 100,00 of them, he can clone himself, attach spores on the enemy, split in 2 black and white, become "one with the land" etc etc. he seems virtually unkillable and infinite. i think right now he's underrated extremely

Kin Gin fight as 1 i count that.

Kakashi has been beaten by Itachi. but Kakashi has grown alot stronger than the last time they encountered. and Kakashi was more than ready to fight Itachi againt the second time. Kakashi is a great tactitian and i believe he would find a way to beat Itachi if another time came around.

"Yamato is not stronger than Kakashi" lol Anub you know very well that arguements like that are the worse kinds. Naruto is not a rock paper scizzors game. its not like DBZ where the characters are in a line of power levels highest being Goku lowest being Yajarobi or something. i said Yamato because of his wood style. his water attakcs are able ot counter Itachi fire attacks. and he has the cells and dna of the 1st who had beaten Madara, the strongest Uchiha in history.

Deidara is like Kakashi. beaten before but prepared for another fight agaisnt Itachi. you noticed how i mentioned Kakashi and Deidara but not Orochimaru? its because Kakashi was prepared to fight Itachi again. Deidara was also prepared to fight Itachi again. Oro couldnt even beat Sasuke's sharingan let alone Itachi's. lol. but Deidara had trained his eye to counter genjutsu. he also has a kickass self destruct attack that is debatable if Itachi can defend agaisnt.

Kabuto is strong and smart as f*ck! another underrated, underestimated character. him using Edo Tensi miles away and commanding them to attack Itachi is still a 1 on 1. cuz Edo Tensi is a jutsu just like shadow clone. it would still be a 1 on 1 fight if Naruto used multi shadow clone, made thousands of himself and fought Itachi right? sure Itachi is not fighting 1 person but still its attack for attack, jutsu vs jutsu. so with Edo Tensi, Kabuto would really put Itachi agaisnt the ropes.

but yeah thats just all my opinion. i looked at my list and thought it was kinda long too but everyone i listed i believe have either strong chance or a slightly chance of beating Itachi

Shika-Ino-Cho, father team. They could definitely pull it off. Like Itachi, we don't truly know their power.
thats more of a 3 on 1 instead of 1 on 1 but i except it!

but idk if they really could beat Itachi. thats a tough one lol.. it would also make for a great thread!
 
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the four kage (for obvious reasons, the only one i doubt is hiruzen, but i think in his prime he maybe could pull it off, and the question was who could beat him, not who definitely will beat him)

naruto and sasuke. sasuke has ems now (and yes, it has advantages like a fourth yet not seen technique) and naruto can probably break genjutsu now. i'm interested to see weather he could break susano'o, but i think he might be able to do it.

pain, chibaku tensei vs. susano'o is yet not seen and i dont know if itachi is able to kill all pains with amaterasu, depends on how much pain knows.

bee and raikage. bee can break genjutsu too and raikage is too fast. itachi would probably win, but the other two definitely are dangerous for him and can outlast susano'o with their speed.

madara for obvious reasons. he can put amaterasu out and i doubt that itachi can look him in the eye through that mask to use tsukuyomi. i doubt that madara will get hit by totsuka. he's with the fourth and hashirama the only one of whom i am sure that he would beat him.

i could imagine kabuto beating him too. kabuto momentarily is weakened by bad storywriting but in theory his edo tensei is pretty insane and he seems to have tons of tricks in his sleeves.
 

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lol i see where your coming from. i did name quite a few but they all imo stand a good chance in defeating Itachi.

Zetsu because of all his wierd powers and his full capabilites are still unknown. theirs 100,00 of them, he can clone himself, attach spores on the enemy, split in 2 black and white, become "one with the land" etc etc. he seems virtually unkillable and infinite. i think right now he's underrated extremely

Kin Gin fight as 1 i count that.

Kakashi has been beaten by Itachi. but Kakashi has grown alot stronger than the last time they encountered. and Kakashi was more than ready to fight Itachi againt the second time. Kakashi is a great tactitian and i believe he would find a way to beat Itachi if another time came around.

"Yamato is not stronger than Kakashi" lol Anub you know very well that arguements like that are the worse kinds. Naruto is not a rock paper scizzors game. its not like DBZ where the characters are in a line of power levels highest being Goku lowest being Yajarobi or something. i said Yamato because of his wood style. his water attakcs are able ot counter Itachi fire attacks. and he has the cells and dna of the 1st who had beaten Madara, the strongest Uchiha in history.

Deidara is like Kakashi. beaten before but prepared for another fight agaisnt Itachi. you noticed how i mentioned Kakashi and Deidara but not Orochimaru? its because Kakashi was prepared to fight Itachi again. Deidara was also prepared to fight Itachi again. Oro couldnt even beat Sasuke's sharingan let alone Itachi's. lol. but Deidara had trained his eye to counter genjutsu. he also has a kickass self destruct attack that is debatable if Itachi can defend agaisnt.

Kabuto is strong and smart as f*ck! another underrated, underestimated character. him using Edo Tensi miles away and commanding them to attack Itachi is still a 1 on 1. cuz Edo Tensi is a jutsu just like shadow clone. it would still be a 1 on 1 fight if Naruto used multi shadow clone, made thousands of himself and fought Itachi right? sure Itachi is not fighting 1 person but still its attack for attack, jutsu vs jutsu. so with Edo Tensi, Kabuto would really put Itachi agaisnt the ropes.

but yeah thats just all my opinion. i looked at my list and thought it was kinda long too but everyone i listed i believe have either strong chance or a slightly chance of beating Itachi



thats more of a 3 on 1 instead of 1 on 1 but i except it!

but idk if they really could beat Itachi. thats a tough one lol.. it would also make for a great thread!
Well we know for a fact that Tobi did not want to let zetsu fight naruto because he wasn't strong enough. I'm not sure what to say, except that we can put him on hold until we know more.

Kin Gin are actually 2, even if they fight as 1. Ino-shika-chou fight as one and they are 3. This would only work with Pain where is actually is one, but split into 7. And tbh I don't think any/both Kin Gin can defeat Itachi.

When Itachi beat Kakashi, he told him that even if he has the sharingan, he doesn't have an uchiha body and kakashi agreed. That means that no matter how strong kakashi has become, he is doesn't have as much chakra as an uchiha. He is also slower than an uchiha and most likely weaker. This was stated in the manga. Unless Kakashi's sharingan can overcome Itachi's sharingan, Itachi's body is better than Kakashi's.

Well I know that a>b>c so a>c doesn't work in naruto. So in that case, let's remember how Yamato when it was him, sakura, sai and naruto against sasuke. He wasn't thatimpressive. I won't say that Itachi>Sasuke>Yamato, but I will say that Yamato did not impress as much as the hype surrounding the character the first time he was presented. Even if I think he is underrated, I don't think he can beat Itachi.

Deidara has gotten stronger, but I still don't think he can avoid Itachi's genjutsu. He can avoid normal genjutsu, but Itachi's tsukyiomi was strong enough to penetrate a 3 tomoe sharingan that was used to genjutsu. Can you really believe that Deidara, a non-uchiha can train himself to avoid the strongest genjutsu? Of couse you could say yes and then I would stop arguing about this because it's a matter of opinion.

Kabuto is quite smart, but he is not a good fighter. I'm not sure what techniques he's got up his sleeves, but let's say he can use edo tensei (because it would be insane to strip a fighter of his strongest weapons). If it's 1on1, I'm guessing Kabuto doesn't start off on the other side of the map. Instead they are face to face, which means that if he manages to avoid genjutsu, he must still face a lot of obstacles before he can properly use his summons. We saw kabuto controlling them with a chess-like board, but would he really do that if he were face-to-face with Itachi? I doubt it. Unless you want to give Kabuto the insane advantage of him being somewhere hidden, this battle goes in Itachi's favor IMO.

And I think Ino-Shika-Chou (fathers) can beat Itachi, but as I said, they are 3, not 1.

And btw I'll give you +rep if you can guess how many shinobi from your list I selected as being able to defeat Itachi :)
 
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Well we know for a fact that Tobi did not want to let zetsu fight naruto because he wasn't strong enough. I'm not sure what to say, except that we can put him on hold until we know more.

Kin Gin are actually 2, even if they fight as 1. Ino-shika-chou fight as one and they are 3. This would only work with Pain where is actually is one, but split into 7. And tbh I don't think any/both Kin Gin can defeat Itachi.

When Itachi beat Kakashi, he told him that even if he has the sharingan, he doesn't have an uchiha body and kakashi agreed. That means that no matter how strong kakashi has become, he is doesn't have as much chakra as an uchiha. He is also slower than an uchiha and most likely weaker. This was stated in the manga. Unless Kakashi's sharingan can overcome Itachi's sharingan, Itachi's body is better than Kakashi's.

Well I know that a>b>c so a>c doesn't work in naruto. So in that case, let's remember how Yamato when it was him, sakura, sai and naruto against sasuke. He wasn't thatimpressive. I won't say that Itachi>Sasuke>Yamato, but I will say that Yamato did not impress as much as the hype surrounding the character the first time he was presented. Even if I think he is underrated, I don't think he can beat Itachi.

Deidara has gotten stronger, but I still don't think he can avoid Itachi's genjutsu. He can avoid normal genjutsu, but Itachi's tsukyiomi was strong enough to penetrate a 3 tomoe sharingan that was used to genjutsu. Can you really believe that Deidara, a non-uchiha can train himself to avoid the strongest genjutsu? Of couse you could say yes and then I would stop arguing about this because it's a matter of opinion.

Kabuto is quite smart, but he is not a good fighter. I'm not sure what techniques he's got up his sleeves, but let's say he can use edo tensei (because it would be insane to strip a fighter of his strongest weapons). If it's 1on1, I'm guessing Kabuto doesn't start off on the other side of the map. Instead they are face to face, which means that if he manages to avoid genjutsu, he must still face a lot of obstacles before he can properly use his summons. We saw kabuto controlling them with a chess-like board, but would he really do that if he were face-to-face with Itachi? I doubt it. Unless you want to give Kabuto the insane advantage of him being somewhere hidden, this battle goes in Itachi's favor IMO.

And I think Ino-Shika-Chou (fathers) can beat Itachi, but as I said, they are 3, not 1.

And btw I'll give you +rep if you can guess how many shinobi from your list I selected as being able to defeat Itachi :)
smh Anub..

we know for a fact that Madara adviced Zetsu not to fight Kakashi because he said Zetsu wasnt the fighting type! that is the fact. but Zetsu looked more than anxious to get his hands dirty. Zetsu not strong enough? lol if Zetsu wasnt strong enough to fight ninjas than wtf would Madara make an army of them?

listen i dont care if KinGin are 2 people. i made the thread man. so i count KinGin as 1. htf you gunna come in MY THREAD and tell me who i can list or not list?? and IT DOESNT MATTER WHAT YOU THINK!!! (Rock voice) sorry i watched WWE Raw tonight.

"When Itachi beat Kakashi, he told him that even if he has the sharingan, he doesn't have an uchiha body and kakashi agreed. That means that no matter how strong kakashi has become, he is doesn't have as much chakra as an uchiha. He is also slower than an uchiha and most likely weaker. This was stated in the manga. Unless Kakashi's sharingan can overcome Itachi's sharingan, Itachi's body is better than Kakashi's."

this whole paragraph is bullshit. when Itachi stated Kakashi didnt have an Uchiha body it merely meant that Kakashi's body wasnt suited to handle a sharingan power the way an Uchiha could. Kakashi would normally end up in a hospital after using Sharingan. but its not saying much cuz its a huge strain for Sasuke and Itachi to use their eye powers as well. but anyways that statement no where meant that Kakashi could never beat Itachi.

Kakashi was more than prepared to face Itachi the second time around. Itachi himself praised Kakashi for coming up with stragedies to beat him from only one encounter. Kakashi basically outsmarted Itachi using a clone to attack first and than holding Itachi to attack from underground. this is just a fraction of how well Kakashi can outsmart and beat his opponents. Itachi is no exception. Itachi isnt smarter than Kakashi. and Kakashi has more tricks up his sleeves than we all know. what is left to know about Itachi? nothing. sharingan, Tsukiyomi, Amaterasu, Sasunoo, shurikens. Kakashi has over 1000 jutsus. etc etc etc

yea Yamato isnt going to look impressive when facing Sasuke. Sasuke has a great power that allows him to upstage those with high reputations. he upstaged Yamato, Orochimaru-legendary sannin, former akatsuki and cause of 3rds death, the Kages A, Gaara, Mei and Onoiki, and even killed Danzo who was student of the 2nd and rival with the 3rd... its Sasuke for crying out loud. but on paper, Yamato is one of those in my opinion that is capable of beating Itachi. that fact that he didnt "impress you" Anub is not a good reason why you dont think so but thats my opinion.

Kakashi has 2 tomoe. and it wasnt strong enough to beat Sasuke's eyes lol. (but of course thats a whole other arguement in itself). anyways point is Deidara trained his eyes agaisnt genjutsu. for all we know that includes ALL genjutsu even Tsukiyomi. dont overestimate Tsukiyomi. its just a jutsu and not every jutsus is invicible. but thats the image you would like Itachi to have. that he and all his attacks, especially Tsukiyomi are invicible. if the sharingan or mangekyou sharingan were invincible and unbeatable than Hashirama would have lost agaisnt Madara. anyways my point is Deidara has potential to beat Itachis genjutsus and blow his ass up.

lol Kabuto is an excellent fighter. able to go toe to toe with Kakashi and Tsunade. and Itachi is or at least hasnt shown, that he isnt as good in taijutsus like Kakashi and Tsunade is. the best taijutsus Itachi has is shurikens and lifting his finger lol. but anyways you underestimate Kabuto. and anyways who's to say that a 1on1 fight with him and Itachi has to start with him near Itachi? and whats to stop him from just leaving the area and summoning edo tensis to fight Itachi?? lol

and i really didnt list Ino Shika Cho (Seniors). but i would still count it cuz they fight as a team, a unit. dude you dont make the rules in this thread and you dont discount people.

Anub, why dont you just tell me who you think can beat Itachi? i dont care about +reps lol. i get enough of them.
 

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LOL wow I thought we went over this in the last topic. But whatever I'm just posting opinions

Naruto and Sasuke will obviously be able to defeat Itachi since they are the main characters and are the only ones who cna stand toe to toe with each other as of right now and to top it off they just keep getting stronger.

Pain I will side with but good arguments could be bought up for him and Itachi

Hashirama, I mean come on he fought a EMS user and went head to head with one of the best Uchihas (Madara)

4th Thundergod FTW but I wouldn't be 100% sure as Kishi has stated in an interview that their are people who have passed the 4th in these past few generation so Itachi could've been better but won't say he is.

Madara with EMS not too sure what he possesed but is bad ass

Raikage, Bee, Jiriaya, Kabuto, Tobirama could stand a slight chance or even take him out but would give up their own life

and the rest don't stand a chance enought said
 

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Anub, why dont you just tell me who you think can beat Itachi? i dont care about +reps lol. i get enough of them.
Naruto, Sasuke, Pain, Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, Jirayia, Guy, Bee, Madara. I would have voted tsuchikage as well if he was on the list.
 

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LOL wow I thought we went over this in the last topic. But whatever I'm just posting opinions

Naruto and Sasuke will obviously be able to defeat Itachi since they are the main characters and are the only ones who cna stand toe to toe with each other as of right now and to top it off they just keep getting stronger.

Pain I will side with but good arguments could be bought up for him and Itachi

Hashirama, I mean come on he fought a EMS user and went head to head with one of the best Uchihas (Madara)

4th Thundergod FTW but I wouldn't be 100% sure as Kishi has stated in an interview that their are people who have passed the 4th in these past few generation so Itachi could've been better but won't say he is.

Madara with EMS not too sure what he possesed but is bad ass

Raikage, Bee, Jiriaya, Kabuto, Tobirama could stand a slight chance or even take him out but would give up their own life

and the rest don't stand a chance enought said
lol i appreciate your input and explaining why !

Naruto, Sasuke, Pain, Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, Jirayia, Guy, Bee, Madara. I would have voted tsuchikage as well if he was on the list.
hmm im suprised at some of the people you listed!

why Naruto, Sasuke, Pain, Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, Jirayia, Guy, Bee, Madara and Onoiki??

btw the list is not limited to those on the poll. i said anybody from the manga, fillers movie etc..
 

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k here is my list of all the people who can beat itachi

1) Hashimhara( Darkness genjutsu and woodrelease)
2) Minato (FTG and rasengan)
3) Hiruzen (Darkness genjtsu and whole array of jutsu)
4) Guy though he would die too so may b a tie (8 gates)
5) Naruto in his current state
6) The new sasuke ( EMS> MS)
7) Tobi( Rinnegan)
8) Diedara if his trained eye could break itcahis genjutsu( C4)
9) Sasori(Genjutsu,pain imune and poison mist)
10) Six paths of pain (Rinnegan > ms)
11) Kabuto maru (hiding some where and unleashi 50 IWR ...3 to kick @ss and rest to cheer)
there might be qute a lot more
on lighter note

ramen guy : he could poison the ramen or tea
 
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k here is my list of all the people who can beat itachi

1) Hashimhara( Darkness genjutsu and woodrelease)
2) Minato (FTG and rasengan)
3) Hiruzen (Darkness genjtsu and whole array of jutsu)
4) Guy though he would die too so may b a tie (8 gates)
5) Naruto in his current state
6) The new sasuke ( EMS> MS)
7) Tobi( Rinnegan)
8) Diedara if his trained eye could break itcahis genjutsu( C4)
9) Sasori(Genjutsu,pain imune and poison mist)
10) Six paths of pain (Rinnegan > ms)
11) Kabuto maru
there might be qute a lot more
on lighter note

ramen guy : he could poison the ramen or tea
lmfaoo Ramen Guy.. oh yea.. sure.. definently lol
 

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And I think Ino-Shika-Chou (fathers) can beat Itachi, but as I said, they are 3, not 1.

And btw I'll give you +rep if you can guess how many shinobi from your list I selected as being able to defeat Itachi :)
You voted for 11.
ButI no Shika chou fathers can not beat Itachi. You are crazy. Kakashi are better than them. and Itachi handled Kakashi like hew as a child...
 

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You voted for 11.
ButI no Shika chou fathers can not beat Itachi. You are crazy. Kakashi are better than them. and Itachi handled Kakashi like hew as a child...
Why couldn't they? It's three against one and I'd say it's a pretty powerful combination.Shikaku would figure out a way since he's commander jounin of Konoha

Yes and that was three years ago. Now Kakashi has improven both in speed and in ninjutsu skills..btw kamui ftw

But as for the question I would say:

Madara (obivously)
Sasori (that weird guy because I'm pretty sure genjutsu wouldn't work on him, but he had to be faster than Itachi if he would wanna win, would be unlikely but still possible..and a crazy fight lol..)
Pain (6 paths is too much even for Itachi)
Kakashi (this I'm not very sure but I'm leaning on Kakashi 'cause for the Kamui, and he was also able to match Itachi's speed in their last fight)
Jiraya (Itachi himself stated that Jiraya was stronger than him, but dunno if it was just for to fool Kisame at the time, but still experience + sennin techs = pwning combination)
Sasuke (well he did it once and now he has even improven alot so..)
Hashirama (wood style + darkness jutsu, and also he beat madara so..)

didn't vote for Tobirama 'cause I don't know that much of him.
Also Hiruzen as a geezer would be kinda a wild card to put up against Itachi. Maybe it would be a tie like with Oro.
And I don't think Naruto is not yet smart enough to defeat him say what u will about the fight with Pain.
 
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Why couldn't they? It's three against one and I'd say it's a pretty powerful combination.Shikaku would figure out a way since he's commander jounin of Konoha

Yes and that was three years ago. Now Kakashi has improven both in speed and in ninjutsu skills..btw kamui ftw

But as for the question I would say:

Madara (obivously)
Sasori (that weird guy because I'm pretty sure genjutsu wouldn't work on him, but he had to be faster than Itachi if he would wanna win, would be unlikely but still possible..and a crazy fight lol..)
Pain (6 paths is too much even for Itachi)
Kakashi (this I'm not very sure but I'm leaning on Kakashi 'cause for the Kamui, and he was also able to match Itachi's speed in their last fight)
Jiraya (Itachi himself stated that Jiraya was stronger than him, but dunno if it was just for to fool Kisame at the time, but still experience + sennin techs = pwning combination)
Sasuke (well he did it once and now he has even improven alot so..)
Hashirama (wood style + darkness jutsu, and also he beat madara so..)

didn't vote for Tobirama 'cause I don't know that much of him.
Also Hiruzen as a geezer would be kinda a wild card to put up against Itachi. Maybe it would be a tie like with Oro.
And I don't think Naruto is not yet smart enough to defeat him say what u will about the fight with Pain.
And Shika ino chou... the fathers would still lose. 3 on 1 doesn't mean the 3 will win. Sasori 100 puppets vs chiyo with 10. chiyo wins. Pain vs Naruto and Naruto wins. etc.


What do you mean? Itachi could have easily one the 2nd fight.....If he was actually there... At that time Kakashi wasn't even that skilled with Kamui he would have lost.

Your list fails at some parts. i am an Itachi fan but to some extent. We know he would lose to jiraiya, Hiruzen, hashirama,Madara (with rinnegan), Minato. MAYBE Pain. But Kakashi and Sasori? Sasori was great but if Saukra can easily destroy the majority of his puppets what makes you think Itachi can't? Unless you're trying to say Sakura and chiyo is smarter and stronger than Itachi in battle?

BTW Itachi did not want to fight Jiraya because that was the type of person he was. He didn't want unecessary conflict. He was there with Kisame they could have taken J man out if they tag teamed him... He didn't walk away because he wasn't strong enough.

Sasuke never "beat" Itachi. Go read/watch that fight again.
 

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And Shika ino chou... the fathers would still lose. 3 on 1 doesn't mean the 3 will win. Sasori 100 puppets vs chiyo with 10. chiyo wins. Pain vs Naruto and Naruto wins. etc.


What do you mean? Itachi could have easily one the 2nd fight.....If he was actually there... At that time Kakashi wasn't even that skilled with Kamui he would have lost.

Your list fails at some parts. i am an Itachi fan but to some extent. We know he would lose to jiraiya, Hiruzen, hashirama,Madara (with rinnegan), Minato. MAYBE Pain. But Kakashi and Sasori? Sasori was great but if Saukra can easily destroy the majority of his puppets what makes you think Itachi can't? Unless you're trying to say Sakura and chiyo is smarter and stronger than Itachi in battle?

BTW Itachi did not want to fight Jiraya because that was the type of person he was. He didn't want unecessary conflict. He was there with Kisame they could have taken J man out if they tag teamed him... He didn't walk away because he wasn't strong enough.

Sasuke never "beat" Itachi. Go read/watch that fight again.

i would have to disagree with you on the sasori pt..
strength wise sakura is stronger with itachi unless itachi can break the entire landscape with his fist...
even though itachi might be smarter than chiyo but chiyo was a puppetier and knew sasori's techniques better than ne one else.

so basically even though einstine a million times smarter than my mechanic
when it comes to fixing my car my mechanic can do this job a hell lot better than einstine..

so even though with is sharingan and great taijutsu 100 puppets would be too much for him...note sharingan cannot see an attack from behind.
without sakura's strength don't think puppets wuld be just one punch wonder..
genjutsu ..dont think wuld work..
there are a lot of hidden and secret weapons in those 100 pupet one would
get itachi eventually..
there is 3rd kazekage and his iron sand..
genjutsu wont work...ametarasu would burn but like other fire it takes time to burn and since puppet donot feel pain,they can fite while still burning making them more lethal..
susano can be cuntered by poison mist..
 
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lol i appreciate your input and explaining why !



hmm im suprised at some of the people you listed!

why Naruto, Sasuke, Pain, Hashirama, Tobirama, Hiruzen, Minato, Jirayia, Guy, Bee, Madara and Onoiki??

btw the list is not limited to those on the poll. i said anybody from the manga, fillers movie etc..
Naruto : controlling the kyuubi will give him the edge in the fight. Now naruto will be too fast for Itachi and maybe he can break his tsukyiomi as well seeing how he can control the fox's chakra now.
Sasuke : EMS > MS. Self-explanatory.
Pain : without knowledge, Itachi would have a hard battle. With knowledge it's a different type of fight. Either way, this fight can be won be Pain so I put him down.
Hashirama : Madara had EMS and lost to Hashirama. I would think Itachi with just MS would not be able to do much damage.
Tobirama : Senju, just like Hashirama. Not sure about his true powers, but I would put him somewhere close to Hashirama. He was a Hokage after all.
Hiruzen : God of shinobi. Master of so many jutsu. Was said to be stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama.
Minato : Expert tactician, FTG user. Extremely skilled.
Jirayia : Sage mode would be too much for Itachi. Genjutsu doesn't work with the frogs on his shoulders, his speed is higher than Itachi's and his chakra is immense and can outlast Itachi's. This would happen only if Jirayia could go sage mode.
Gai : He's got a lot of experience against sharingan 1on1. Opening 7 gates should be enough to pwn Itachi.
Bee : Same as naruto, but a little weaker. Still enough to beat Itachi
Madara : EMS > MS again.
Tsuchikage : Bloodline expansion. Also, the attack he used against Sasuke was extremely fast and powerful. I'm not sure if susano'o could deflect that if Itachi would be trapped in it.

Of course Itachi has a chance of winning against each of them depending on the situation of the fight and also on how the fight progresses. He might catch Minato in a genjutsu for example and that's it. But those above have a higher chance of winning than Itachi does against them.

So far from what we've seen in the manga that is pretty much it actually. I mean SO6P of course would pwn Itachi. Also I'm sure some of the previous kage would but I don't want to start a debate whether Muu can beat Itachi or not because it's pointless since we don't know Muu's abilities.

People who I really really really believe stand very little chance against Itachi :

Gaara : lack of experience is a major factor. Also way too static and easy target for susano'o.
Kabuto : if it is 1on1, I think Itachi can kill Kabuto before he can put his edo tensei to use.
Kakashi : Itachi still has an uchiha body, while kakashi doesn't. Itachi has more chakra, better MS and is quite possibly smarter(not sure though). No matter how much kakashi improved, he is still limited to very little MS usage, while Itachi even in sickness could use a lot more. Kamui is a good tech, but I believe Itachi can escape it.
Deidara : Itachi is a lot smarter. He is also faster. Deidara's best chance would be blowing himself up I guess, but still wouldn't be able to win. I don't think deidara could train himself that well against the best genjutsu in naruto universe. I already used Kakashi as an example: he had 3 tomoe sharingan that was trained A LOT in fights and seeing how Kakashi is a better genjutsu user than Deidara (Kakashi used genjutsu, deidara never did) then I would say if Itachi can trap Kakashi in genjutsu, he can surely trap deidara. Also we see Itachi trap kakashi's clone in a genjutsu (and by that time kakashi had MS). And even if it was a clone, it was still a replica of Kakashi. So I don't think a normal shinobi without a special eye ability or without being a host can stop itachi's genjutsu.

i would have to disagree with you on the sasori pt..
strength wise sakura is stronger with itachi unless itachi can break the entire landscape with his fist...
even though itachi might be smarter than chiyo but chiyo was a puppetier and knew sasori's techniques better than ne one else.

so basically even though einstine a million times smarter than my mechanic
when it comes to fixing my car my mechanic can do this job a hell lot better than einstine..

so even though with is sharingan and great taijutsu 100 puppets would be too much for him...note sharingan cannot see an attack from behind.
without sakura's strength don't think puppets wuld be just one punch wonder..
genjutsu ..dont think wuld work..
there are a lot of hidden and secret weapons in those 100 pupet one would
get itachi eventually..
there is 3rd kazekage and his iron sand..
genjutsu wont work...ametarasu would burn but like other fire it takes time to burn and since puppet donot feel pain,they can fite while still burning making them more lethal..
susano can be cuntered by poison mist..
Agreed with the Itachi vs Sasori debate to some extent. Genjutsu won't work and 100 puppets are way too much for Itachi to handle. Now here's my input in your theory. This all depends of where the fight takes place and if Itachi knows about Sasori's poison. In that case I wouldn't exclude Itachi using amaterasu and then waiting while in susano'o. We don't know how much chakra he would need though and that's why it's not a solid plan. Also Itachi's speed should surpass Sasori's speed and his sharigan should be able to read his movements and actually see how he manipulates all the puppets so he can anticipate the attacks.
On sasori's defense, if Itachi casts susanoo, poison mist should make him break it and then he would be vulnerable.

In conclusion, this fight could go either way and I don't think I can establish any advantage. I did not vote for sasori beating Itachi, but I wouldn't vote for Itachi beating sasori either. Draw (as in it's impossible for me to settle on a winner).
 
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Naruto : controlling the kyuubi will give him the edge in the fight. Now naruto will be too fast for Itachi and maybe he can break his tsukyiomi as well seeing how he can control the fox's chakra now.
Sasuke : EMS > MS. Self-explanatory.
Pain : without knowledge, Itachi would have a hard battle. With knowledge it's a different type of fight. Either way, this fight can be won be Pain so I put him down.
Hashirama : Madara had EMS and lost to Hashirama. I would think Itachi with just MS would not be able to do much damage.
Tobirama : Senju, just like Hashirama. Not sure about his true powers, but I would put him somewhere close to Hashirama. He was a Hokage after all.
Hiruzen : God of shinobi. Master of so many jutsu. Was said to be stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama.
Minato : Expert tactician, FTG user. Extremely skilled.
Jirayia : Sage mode would be too much for Itachi. Genjutsu doesn't work with the frogs on his shoulders, his speed is higher than Itachi's and his chakra is immense and can outlast Itachi's. This would happen only if Jirayia could go sage mode.
Gai : He's got a lot of experience against sharingan 1on1. Opening 7 gates should be enough to pwn Itachi.
Bee : Same as naruto, but a little weaker. Still enough to beat Itachi
Madara : EMS > MS again.
Tsuchikage : Bloodline expansion. Also, the attack he used against Sasuke was extremely fast and powerful. I'm not sure if susano'o could deflect that if Itachi would be trapped in it.

Of course Itachi has a chance of winning against each of them depending on the situation of the fight and also on how the fight progresses. He might catch Minato in a genjutsu for example and that's it. But those above have a higher chance of winning than Itachi does against them.

So far from what we've seen in the manga that is pretty much it actually. I mean SO6P of course would pwn Itachi. Also I'm sure some of the previous kage would but I don't want to start a debate whether Muu can beat Itachi or not because it's pointless since we don't know Muu's abilities.

People who I really really really believe stand very little chance against Itachi :

Gaara : lack of experience is a major factor. Also way too static and easy target for susano'o.
Kabuto : if it is 1on1, I think Itachi can kill Kabuto before he can put his edo tensei to use.
Kakashi : Itachi still has an uchiha body, while kakashi doesn't. Itachi has more chakra, better MS and is quite possibly smarter(not sure though). No matter how much kakashi improved, he is still limited to very little MS usage, while Itachi even in sickness could use a lot more. Kamui is a good tech, but I believe Itachi can escape it.
Deidara : Itachi is a lot smarter. He is also faster. Deidara's best chance would be blowing himself up I guess, but still wouldn't be able to win. I don't think deidara could train himself that well against the best genjutsu in naruto universe. I already used Kakashi as an example: he had 3 tomoe sharingan that was trained A LOT in fights and seeing how Kakashi is a better genjutsu user than Deidara (Kakashi used genjutsu, deidara never did) then I would say if Itachi can trap Kakashi in genjutsu, he can surely trap deidara. Also we see Itachi trap kakashi's clone in a genjutsu (and by that time kakashi had MS). And even if it was a clone, it was still a replica of Kakashi. So I don't think a normal shinobi without a special eye ability or without being a host can stop itachi's genjutsu.



Agreed with the Itachi vs Sasori debate to some extent. Genjutsu won't work and 100 puppets are way too much for Itachi to handle. Now here's my input in your theory. This all depends of where the fight takes place and if Itachi knows about Sasori's poison. In that case I wouldn't exclude Itachi using amaterasu and then waiting while in susano'o. We don't know how much chakra he would need though and that's why it's not a solid plan. Also Itachi's speed should surpass Sasori's speed and his sharigan should be able to read his movements and actually see how he manipulates all the puppets so he can anticipate the attacks.
On sasori's defense, if Itachi casts susanoo, poison mist should make him break it and then he would be vulnerable.

In conclusion, this fight could go either way and I don't think I can establish any advantage. I did not vote for sasori beating Itachi, but I wouldn't vote for Itachi beating sasori either. Draw (as in it's impossible for me to settle on a winner).

I'm not sure about Bee and Itachi so I didn't vote on them. Sasuke got beaten because of his over confidence and lack of experience. Itachi was experienced and always had an strategy and knew how to assess his oppnants correctly. Bee would have had more problem handling him especially teamed with Kisame.

As for Sasori- the real Sasori still had his soul- that could be trapped... Then Itachi has a chance.
 
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i would have to disagree with you on the sasori pt..
strength wise sakura is stronger with itachi unless itachi can break the entire landscape with his fist...
even though itachi might be smarter than chiyo but chiyo was a puppetier and knew sasori's techniques better than ne one else.

so basically even though einstine a million times smarter than my mechanic
when it comes to fixing my car my mechanic can do this job a hell lot better than einstine..


so even though with is sharingan and great taijutsu 100 puppets would be too much for him...note sharingan cannot see an attack from behind.
without sakura's strength don't think puppets wuld be just one punch wonder..
genjutsu ..dont think wuld work..
there are a lot of hidden and secret weapons in those 100 pupet one would
get itachi eventually..
there is 3rd kazekage and his iron sand..
genjutsu wont work...ametarasu would burn but like other fire it takes time to burn and since puppet donot feel pain,they can fite while still burning making them more lethal..
susano can be cuntered by poison mist..
love the einstine and mecanic analogy!

Naruto : controlling the kyuubi will give him the edge in the fight. Now naruto will be too fast for Itachi and maybe he can break his tsukyiomi as well seeing how he can control the fox's chakra now.
Sasuke : EMS > MS. Self-explanatory.
Pain : without knowledge, Itachi would have a hard battle. With knowledge it's a different type of fight. Either way, this fight can be won be Pain so I put him down.
Hashirama : Madara had EMS and lost to Hashirama. I would think Itachi with just MS would not be able to do much damage.
Tobirama : Senju, just like Hashirama. Not sure about his true powers, but I would put him somewhere close to Hashirama. He was a Hokage after all.
Hiruzen : God of shinobi. Master of so many jutsu. Was said to be stronger than Hashirama and Tobirama.
Minato : Expert tactician, FTG user. Extremely skilled.
Jirayia : Sage mode would be too much for Itachi. Genjutsu doesn't work with the frogs on his shoulders, his speed is higher than Itachi's and his chakra is immense and can outlast Itachi's. This would happen only if Jirayia could go sage mode.
Gai : He's got a lot of experience against sharingan 1on1. Opening 7 gates should be enough to pwn Itachi.
Bee : Same as naruto, but a little weaker. Still enough to beat Itachi
Madara : EMS > MS again.
Tsuchikage : Bloodline expansion. Also, the attack he used against Sasuke was extremely fast and powerful. I'm not sure if susano'o could deflect that if Itachi would be trapped in it.

Of course Itachi has a chance of winning against each of them depending on the situation of the fight and also on how the fight progresses. He might catch Minato in a genjutsu for example and that's it. But those above have a higher chance of winning than Itachi does against them.

So far from what we've seen in the manga that is pretty much it actually. I mean SO6P of course would pwn Itachi. Also I'm sure some of the previous kage would but I don't want to start a debate whether Muu can beat Itachi or not because it's pointless since we don't know Muu's abilities.

People who I really really really believe stand very little chance against Itachi :

Gaara : lack of experience is a major factor. Also way too static and easy target for susano'o.
Kabuto : if it is 1on1, I think Itachi can kill Kabuto before he can put his edo tensei to use.
Kakashi : Itachi still has an uchiha body, while kakashi doesn't. Itachi has more chakra, better MS and is quite possibly smarter(not sure though). No matter how much kakashi improved, he is still limited to very little MS usage, while Itachi even in sickness could use a lot more. Kamui is a good tech, but I believe Itachi can escape it.
Deidara : Itachi is a lot smarter. He is also faster. Deidara's best chance would be blowing himself up I guess, but still wouldn't be able to win. I don't think deidara could train himself that well against the best genjutsu in naruto universe. I already used Kakashi as an example: he had 3 tomoe sharingan that was trained A LOT in fights and seeing how Kakashi is a better genjutsu user than Deidara (Kakashi used genjutsu, deidara never did) then I would say if Itachi can trap Kakashi in genjutsu, he can surely trap deidara. Also we see Itachi trap kakashi's clone in a genjutsu (and by that time kakashi had MS). And even if it was a clone, it was still a replica of Kakashi. So I don't think a normal shinobi without a special eye ability or without being a host can stop itachi's genjutsu.



Agreed with the Itachi vs Sasori debate to some extent. Genjutsu won't work and 100 puppets are way too much for Itachi to handle. Now here's my input in your theory. This all depends of where the fight takes place and if Itachi knows about Sasori's poison. In that case I wouldn't exclude Itachi using amaterasu and then waiting while in susano'o. We don't know how much chakra he would need though and that's why it's not a solid plan. Also Itachi's speed should surpass Sasori's speed and his sharigan should be able to read his movements and actually see how he manipulates all the puppets so he can anticipate the attacks.
On sasori's defense, if Itachi casts susanoo, poison mist should make him break it and then he would be vulnerable.

In conclusion, this fight could go either way and I don't think I can establish any advantage. I did not vote for sasori beating Itachi, but I wouldn't vote for Itachi beating sasori either. Draw (as in it's impossible for me to settle on a winner).
thats well said and i agree! i also didnt know whether to pick Muu, 3rd Raikage etc. we know lil about them so its hard to tell

i see where your coming from with Kakashi and Deidara. with them it comes down to whether Kakashi can come up with a good enough stragedy to win and Deidara if he can defend Tsukiyomi and if his explosions are powerful enough. btw Kakashi having his clone trapped in genjutsu was part of his plan.

what about Kin Gin or Konan?
 
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I don't get how a genjutsu would not work on Sasori? It's true Sasori is quite strong and his 100 puppets will be a lot to handle but if Itachi focuses on Sasori all he has to do is capture him in a genjutsu's and wouldn't it than cancel out the 100 puppet tech of his? I don't think his puppets are living things that can get him out of genjutsu but than I could be missing something about him. And how would the poison take out Susanoo? Also in the latest anime didn't really catch this in the manga but when Gaara asked Tobi about Sasuke Tobi said he wanted Susanoo becuase it's a rare tech and powerful. Someone like Tobi after that tech even tho he knows Izanagi.
 

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I don't get how a genjutsu would not work on Sasori? It's true Sasori is quite strong and his 100 puppets will be a lot to handle but if Itachi focuses on Sasori all he has to do is capture him in a genjutsu's and wouldn't it than cancel out the 100 puppet tech of his? I don't think his puppets are living things that can get him out of genjutsu but than I could be missing something about him. And how would the poison take out Susanoo? Also in the latest anime didn't really catch this in the manga but when Gaara asked Tobi about Sasuke Tobi said he wanted Susanoo becuase it's a rare tech and powerful. Someone like Tobi after that tech even tho he knows Izanagi.
i have no clue either how Sasori could avoid genjutsu. maybe because he doesnt have a physical body, hes just a scroll. but than again if hes a puppet how does he see?? lol

idk aboutthe poison mist either...

i think Madara is trying to make Sasuke as strong as he can and eventually harvet his eyes. idk why? doesnt Madara have EMS himself?? so much is unknown about his motives and what happened after fighting the 1st.
 

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And Shika ino chou... the fathers would still lose. 3 on 1 doesn't mean the 3 will win. Sasori 100 puppets vs chiyo with 10. chiyo wins. Pain vs Naruto and Naruto wins. etc.

1.What do you mean? Itachi could have easily one the 2nd fight.....If he was actually there... At that time Kakashi wasn't even that skilled with Kamui he would have lost.

2.Your list fails at some parts. i am an Itachi fan but to some extent. We know he would lose to jiraiya, Hiruzen, hashirama,Madara (with rinnegan), Minato. MAYBE Pain. But Kakashi and Sasori? Sasori was great but if Saukra can easily destroy the majority of his puppets what makes you think Itachi can't? Unless you're trying to say Sakura and chiyo is smarter and stronger than Itachi in battle?

3.BTW Itachi did not want to fight Jiraya because that was the type of person he was. He didn't want unecessary conflict. He was there with Kisame they could have taken J man out if they tag teamed him... He didn't walk away because he wasn't strong enough.

4.Sasuke never "beat" Itachi. Go read/watch that fight again.

Different techs. That's all I say. Don't state things like they are facts.

1.He could match Itachi's speed at the time that's it. And I didn't say Kakashi could've won then. But for now he has a good chance.

2.Yeah I wasn't so sure at first for Sasori, but if think his fight against Sakura,Chiyo: it was 2 vs 1, Sakura had the antidote 'cause she's the pupil of only person who can make that(otherwise they would've died), so bit coincidence. Also they are the good characters so ofcourse they won for the stroryline. But Sasori still defeated 3rd Kazekage who have been said to be the greatest among Kazekages.
I'd say he'd put up a good fight against Itachi and there's a small chance he'd win.
Yeah I think Kakashi would win: more jutsus than Itachi + mangekyu and kamui + increesed speed + better experience than opponent. The knowledge he has on Itachi gives him the also advantage.

3.Yeah probably would've but since we don't know for sure that if Itachi lied then we'll have to assume otherwise.

4.Yes he beat. Itachi died and Sasuke was left alive. In my books that's enough beating. But I know how it went so don't bother to go all ape shit on me about that.

I don't get how a genjutsu would not work on Sasori? It's true Sasori is quite strong and his 100 puppets will be a lot to handle but if Itachi focuses on Sasori all he has to do is capture him in a genjutsu's and wouldn't it than cancel out the 100 puppet tech of his? I don't think his puppets are living things that can get him out of genjutsu but than I could be missing something about him. And how would the poison take out Susanoo? Also in the latest anime didn't really catch this in the manga but when Gaara asked Tobi about Sasuke Tobi said he wanted Susanoo becuase it's a rare tech and powerful. Someone like Tobi after that tech even tho he knows Izanagi.

I thought it wouldn't since Sasori is puppet and also if his inside that scorpio thing or whatever then maybe that would prevent it from working too 'cause Itachi don't have direct eyeline for him but who know's. Susano'o is tricky but Itachi can't have it going on for too long. I'd say still Sasori has a small chance.
 
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