now ur just making stuff up! who said they never encountered a sharingan user?????????? they were fighting uchias during the war days b4 itachi was even born. they are fighters, thats what they do! im 100% sure they fought atleast one uchia, you act like uchias never fought out side they village and it is rare that anybody can fight and survive an uchia. dude uchias arnt unstoppable so stop trying to make it look like genjutsu can beat 99% of the ninjas in the naruto universe. knikuku just transformed into 6 tails, are you saying that cant break out of a tsukiomi??? 6 tails would rape itachi and make him overuse his susanno. then and only then will i say itachi can win is win he break out the weapons. (nothing personal)
KinGin Bro's VS Itachi Uchiha
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NarutoVsGoku
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you know what.. you usually make alot better arguements than this..
KinGin dont "love starring their opponents down". they just fight. maybe you didnt read the arguements before but the Kin Gin would be wary of the sharingan... they most likely fought Uchihas back in their days when the clan was still alive..
also Itachi is outnumbered.. he cannot put both bros in genjutsu at once.. Itachi is not going to jump into his MS, because thats endangering his own health..
all it takes is one touch from the rope and Itachi is done.. its that simple.. and even if they dont try to seal Itachi they'll transform in 9tails mode and rape Itachi...
teetooktier
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I do not see how this is even up for discussion seeing as DARUI just beat one of the Bros when they COULD NOT DIE. Furthermore he chopped the arm off of one of them before sealing one; if these guys weren't in Edo that bro would be dead.
Now there is one bro left and he is in 6-tails mode but given Itachi's power this should not be a problem.
Now there is one bro left and he is in 6-tails mode but given Itachi's power this should not be a problem.
Professor Sarutobi
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and i think if this was Hidan vs KinGin thats how the fight would go, just because he doesn't know what the rope does doesn't mean he'll let them hit him in the first place. if they go 6tails mode maybe they'd win but without it, darui was fast enough to seal one away since they can't seem to stop saying eachothers names they lose their own word game easily.
PositiveEmotions
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I tend to think that his 6 tails isn't really as strong as a 6 tails... wouldn't make sense to steal 6 tails from a nine tail fox and the fox to still keep that chakra while kinkaku has it. That's just bad maths.
Professor Sarutobi
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yeah hidan would lose to pretty much every serious threat in the war. kazuka atleast he thinks about strats, hidan just chases untill he gets blood since he can't die he thinks he can't lose xd
PositiveEmotions
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doesn't he remind u of naruto in a way (hidan) jst want to fight and kakuzu kind of like shikimaru?
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Super Beaver
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Though we've never seen Itachi at full strength, so it's kinda hard to say, I think that, as Itachi has quite alot of tricks up his sleave, and is an overal better shinobi than Darui, he'd at least be able to take down one.
-The Agent-
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smh.. some of you arent that smart yourselfs saying they are "dumb" or not that smart just because dairu sealed one of them. fact is, dairu got extremely lucky that at the last second his word switched, if not then he would have died/sealed away! they are not stupid, they just like to play with there opponents, and when ever they get serius they can transform to 6 (or how many) tails at will. just because dairu got lucky and sealed one of them, doesnt mean theyre weak or he can beat them...
-The Agent-
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Come on bro... Darui cut off one of their arms, if it wasnt for Edo Tensei they would have been done for a while ago.
They are not a smart tag team, even with Pain's secret being figured out he was still tought to take down. Darui finds out their secret and figures out how to take out at least one so far...
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i disagree!even when diru figured out the wsecrect it was still to late, he was bout to get sucked in and die. and they also said he was the only one who ever figured the secret out so that is a plus for them. so your saying when your arm gets cut off your automatically done for? also they were playing with him/them. also that last cut caught them by surprise thnx to "dull" switching to "sorry".lol i think theyre cocky and big headed more then dumb and stupid. but if they were to be in a serious fight they would probably go 6 tails each and double rape anybody they fight. fact is, dairu was about to die in a fight that they didnt even care about, but at the last second was surprised, somehow touches the rope, and dairu somehow has enuff chakra to use the weapons and suck him up. smh.. lol they are still epic in my book! and if they go double 6 tails, will rape almost any ninja
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Well first off In that statement NarutoVSGoku was stating Itachi would get hit with the rope easily. And I was just trying to state that it wouldn't be that easy for them to do that, if the battles were that easy than his genjutsu should've beaten anyone. I apologize NarutoVSGoku for not being too pacific on my statement.
I never stated Uchiha were unbeatable or unstoppable. The reason why I say things about Itachi is because I'm disgusted how people down grade him or take him as a 10 year old genin. (Nothing Personal to anyone). Well I doubt they encountered Uchiha's only because I never heard of them ever doing so and you cannot also state that they encounter Uchiha's since it has yet been said if they have or not so at this point you can say we both made stuff up because no one knows if they have battle them or if they haven't.
Moving to their tailed beast mode. Now we are yet to find out what they are truly capable of in that mode or what it does to them. I mean Naruto in six tails looks a lot different than them (And a lot better). Most likely they'd use that mode when one is dead as we seen right now, now one on one with an MS user? (Sasuke, pretty much took out a KB and 8 tails which was full controlled by KB alone and you think Itachi couldn't take on people with the kyuubi chakra? The real kyuubi is in Naruto and the other half is sealed away so these guys may not be able to do what Naruto can do in Kyuubi mode)
All I'm saying is I hate when people make Itachi look like a weak ninja. Their are tons of ways to defeat anyone but what is required the most is a brain which Itachi has and people yet are to discover that. (Hidan was never smart and got defeated by another genuis Shikamaru).
Moving to the weapons Itachi has held two powerful weapons himself and is smart enough to eventually know about this weapon and what they are capable of. The only concern would be on how to battle those weapon or avoid them now Itachi is smart and could find out eventually. I mean KinGin bro are dead so obviously means someone or group had killed them so they are not invincible either and people have discovered their weakness and the weapons.
If I haven't covered anything here I apologize feel free to correct me on anything and I will get back to you on it
I apologize NarutoVSGoku, was in a hurry.
If we go back to when Itachi made his first appearance in Konoho, he encountered Kakashi, Asuma and Kurenai. They couldn't fight him eye to eye which is why they looked down and Kakashi though he could but boom he was caught in a genjutsu and could've died but Itachi didn't want to kill him and in the real world was not even a second in the genjutsu. That can easily happen to the KinGin bros.
Moving on to tailed beast if Sasuke, pretty much took out a KB and 8 tails which was fully controlled by KB (A complete bijuu) and you think Itachi couldn't take on people with the kyuubi chakra? The real kyuubi is in Naruto and the other half is sealed away so these guys may not be able to do what Naruto can do in Kyuubi mode.
Akatsuki was built to capture these tailed beast and you think someone at Itachi's level couldn't take out people who aren't complete Jinjurikins (Or kyuubi host)?
If I haven't covered anything here I apologize feel free to correct me on anything and I will get back to you on it
Also two both of you lets not forget Oro killed Kazekage and pretty much responsible for the 3rd Hokages death was defeated by Itachi in a blink of an eye and eventually sealed away (He maybe have been weak but was still sealed away, Also he's done his research on Sharingan with Danzou so knew a lot about them so no excuses here, Oro was also a genius and was able to go toe to toe with Naruto in 4 tails in his weak state, and yet you guys still argue about Itachi and what he is capable of). Also Deidara was beaten quick time and was even prepared to fight Itachi again he couldn't take out Sasuke who just has a regular Sharingan you can say he's never fought a Sharingan but still.
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DaTrutHurtz
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I voted for Kin-Gin just b/c to most they would be seen as the underdogs....
As for who would win i say 50/50, either sides could end up taking the other out... reason for this is because as we know the Kin-Gin bro's are not the smartest shinobi we've seen yet...as we've seen they just rely on those powerful weapons they have (and their 9tails chakra) to defeat their enemies.
I mean cmon how the hell could you not realize that your most used word is your brothers name (if they were intelligent they would have a plan incase their own weapons backfired against them).
Now the only reason i say 50/50 is b/c of the possibility of Itachi not knowing the weapons' and brothers' capabilities. Im not too much worried about Itachi being hit with the rope since this is 2v1 (no teammates in need of saving like in Darui's case), and we all know how fast and evasive Itachi is.
The only thing i think would be hard for Itachi to defeat is the possibility of both of the brothers transforming into the 6-tails (1 of the bro's did, we can only assume they both can since they both were in the belly of the fox).
It was hard enough for Pain to take on 1 6-tails so imagine Itachi taking on 2 of them (not saying its impossible tho). Susanoo would drain alot of Itachi's chakra, i doubt in their tailed beast mode the brothers would be affected by Tsukiyomi (who knows)....the sword of totsuga (or w/e its name is) could take 1 bro out, giving the other a chance to strike.....Itachi has limited chakra compared to the bros...giving them the advantage in a long drawn out battle blah blah blah.....
Lets just say this'll be a hectic battle but if Itachi doesnt finish em off early the chances of him surviving will be slim.
As for who would win i say 50/50, either sides could end up taking the other out... reason for this is because as we know the Kin-Gin bro's are not the smartest shinobi we've seen yet...as we've seen they just rely on those powerful weapons they have (and their 9tails chakra) to defeat their enemies.
I mean cmon how the hell could you not realize that your most used word is your brothers name (if they were intelligent they would have a plan incase their own weapons backfired against them).
Now the only reason i say 50/50 is b/c of the possibility of Itachi not knowing the weapons' and brothers' capabilities. Im not too much worried about Itachi being hit with the rope since this is 2v1 (no teammates in need of saving like in Darui's case), and we all know how fast and evasive Itachi is.
The only thing i think would be hard for Itachi to defeat is the possibility of both of the brothers transforming into the 6-tails (1 of the bro's did, we can only assume they both can since they both were in the belly of the fox).
It was hard enough for Pain to take on 1 6-tails so imagine Itachi taking on 2 of them (not saying its impossible tho). Susanoo would drain alot of Itachi's chakra, i doubt in their tailed beast mode the brothers would be affected by Tsukiyomi (who knows)....the sword of totsuga (or w/e its name is) could take 1 bro out, giving the other a chance to strike.....Itachi has limited chakra compared to the bros...giving them the advantage in a long drawn out battle blah blah blah.....
Lets just say this'll be a hectic battle but if Itachi doesnt finish em off early the chances of him surviving will be slim.
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Professor Sarutobi
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the 6tails thing could help them win, depending on when they use it tho because if they use it right away before getting itachi to use MS they'll probably end up like bee getting amaterasu on the face and rolling around on fire untill itachi either puts it out or they die.
and no they aren't as fast as raikage don't have space/time like madara and he isn't trying to clip them as to not kill them like sasuke so they aren't going to dodge it easily lol.
and no they aren't as fast as raikage don't have space/time like madara and he isn't trying to clip them as to not kill them like sasuke so they aren't going to dodge it easily lol.
yea i hear what ur saying, im a itachi fan and hate wen ppl downgrade him aswell. but in terms if they fought an uchia or not im 80% sure they did (no solid proof) but when tobimaru was with danzou and sarutobi they had an uchia on there team which leads me to believe that uchias were out fighting in the war and there is no proof that theye wernt. and you cant bring up the sasuke and KB part, because KB wasnt even trying and could of killed team taka all at once if they wanted to. he admitted he lost on purpose to get out of the village. with that being said KB lasted a tsukiomi and a ameratsu. but like i said those weapons are the only probllem for anyone (not even susanoo).
and kin transformed b4 his bro died
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so that proves that they can transform wen ever they want, they just have to be motivated (in this case, his bro was touched by the rope) and i think the reason naruto had the bones and he dont is because the bones are for the acualal fox transformation, and since he has the chakra and not the spirit he didnt get any bones. or when KB went V@ he got the bones only to do "lariat"..my point is, i feel the same way about the kin gin bros, ppl sleep on them like they weak when the whole time they were playing and dairu got lucky wen his word changed at the last second. if not for that he would be dead!
Well you see that Uchiha we can honestly say he was a random. Say if they did encounter an Uchiha they probably handled him with ease and here were talking about Uchiha Itachi, like you said you wouldn't downgrade him so look at him compared to other Uchiha's. Not you regular Uchiha is he.
To me those guys nine tail transformation is like a replica of the real nine tails. Why? It's becuase they have chakra but not the actually nine tails inside them. (Examples: Yamato with the 1st DNA has the wood element but cannot do what 1st can do with it, Kakashi and Danzou with Sharingans the same thing, they can use Sharingan abilities but lose a lot of chakra and have a limit to be used but because of that they have gotten stron ger can you imagine them without it? Would be strong but not as they are now) Thats why I'm saying the kyuubi chakra in them is some what like these guys it's not the real deal but still makes them more powerful.
We all should know all nine members of the Akatsuki can stand toe to toe with any tailed beast alone. So Itachi can handle these replica's of a kyuubi. Like I said Oro faced off the 4 tailed in weaken state and pretty much messed around with him, Itachi defeated Oro in a blink of an eye and after that Oro kept his distance from Itachi and got Sasuke instead but also either wanted Sasuke to take Itachi out or would do it himself when he gotten weaker (Oro was also considered a Genius). So Itachi could handle himself facing the kyuubi with his abilities.
I don't know if this would be possible say the one that uses that rope got caught in a genjutsu without knowing and instead using the rope on Itachi used it on himself or his brother. Than it would leave a one on one and that would be rap for the battle. (The similiar thing with Kurenai where Itachi caught her in her own trap and the samething with Deidara). Just a little thought
I don't underestimate them but I personally believe if they gotten out smarted by Darui than Itachi with his brain would easily handle this.
It's true they were messing around only because don't think anyone can figure out the weakness for their weapon but that is something they themselves are responsible for
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dude for the last time, dairu did not out smart them! he simply got lucky at the last second his word switched, and that is a fact! so i would like it if all of you stop saying they got out smarted! also, stop comparing itachi to other ppl like oru and other ninjas! itachi and oru is nothing alike, PERIOD! itachi cant do what oru can do and vise versa! and yamato, kakashi, danzou have nothing to do with PURE CHAKRA wich is what they have! so that comparison is a fail aswell. and that staement sying the akatsuki can goe one on one with jinjurikis is also a fail, they were in groups of two (expect kisame, he didnt need help). and none of them had control like KB and naruto and that is a fact unless u can prove me wrong! kb can defeat any member except probaly pain, and kisame (and he was playing most the time with kisame and had to protect that racoon and monk dude).
and stop saying itachi can face a 6 tails just because naruto 4 tails and oru fought! please i beg you stop doing the whole "A>B B>C A>C" because that is not true in the naruto universe! and again no one member besides kisame and pain can go one on one and win! deidara dont caont because it was a set up and gaara had to protect the village the same time (if a neutral site, gaara would rape him). dude fact is, ur making stuff up to make ur self think itachi would win by saying since oru diid so so, itachi would because hes better. and i know ur better then that bruh.
also, i agree itachi is better then most uchias, but that still doesnt deny the fact that they have experience against an uchia and know they are 80% about genjutsu. itachi is smart but every ninja doesnt have the same intel on ninjas like oru and tobi basicly knows everything. being smarter doesnt mean you know everything that less smarter person knows... its like if shikamaru fought sasori he would lose compared to chiyo. because chiyo has intel bout him, puppets, knows bout his poison etc, but shikku is smarter. you get it??..