Could itachi control his black flames like sasuke?

Can itachi control amatsaru as well as sasuke?

  • Yes he can put them out at will and/or change its shape.

    Votes: 31 70.5%
  • No he didn't put the fire out with his other eye like sasuke.

    Votes: 13 29.5%

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NarutoVsGoku

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OMG are you 8 years old ?! REALLY? Ifs don't count?! I know what I am but what are you? Are you REALLY lowering your sick Sasugay's da best argument to that point? Dude Sasuke is gonna be stronger than Itachi like someone said... WHY? Cause Itachi was the better man and could not kill his younger brother... IF (Yes it counts) Itachi had EMS I don't want to know how BAD ASS he would be
So I see.... you're like : You're wrong, I'm right, "Ifs don't matter"
you are very persuasive........ NOT!!
yo my dude hop off my meat for real.. im just stating my opinion. am i really that wrong for being agaisnt Itachi? gosh..

and bw ifs dont count. if oyu would have took the time to realize what i was tryna say instead of jumping down my throat: theres no way to prove "ifs".... i dont find them really strong to use in arguements. just saying

not tryna offend or disrespect
 

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Itachi can lick my butt..

srry did i type that out loud?

um.. i doubt it friend.. while fighting Raikage someone noted that Sasuke's Amaterasu technique surpassed Itachi's.

ifs dont count... example: if Kakashi never got the sharingan from Obito, Kakashi would never be as good as he is... am i right? maybe, maybe not. can it be proven? no. does it even matter? no.

fact is Kakashi is good and has sharingan.

fact is Itachi is not alive (unless you count Edo Tensi) and fact Itachi never showed control over Amaterasu like Sasuke where he could combine it with Amaterasu and manipulate its shape
he surpassed itachi's powers bc of itachi lol he gave him powers to sasuke if it wasnt for itachi sasuke would b weak right now
 

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DAMN!!! And I bet you believe Sasuke did kill Itachi in a fair fight too HU ?!
He does lol


lol nah son im just a really good at argueing and debating.. im a master debater.. haha

but no way i still stand Itachi is overrated and Sasuke been passed him..
Lol if u say so...but u can't argue facts, we never seen e-tot at full power, and u swear by da 4th lol
 

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yo dont be judging me without even asking for my opinion man.. dats rude..

nah if you would have asked i would have said Itachi was weak, half blind, seconds away from dying but would have still been able to beat, kill and collect Sasuke's eyes if he wanted to but he didnt. instead he went all out, not holding back, pushing Sasuke to his very last limits to free him of Oro and to make him hero.

but everybody takes it just because Itachi planned to lose and die and that he was sick that he "Da Shit!" lol like theres nobody better than him and he was the strongest shinobi ever!!! it sucks cuz Sasuke never gets credit for the stuff he does. Itachi always gotta be better. Sasuke beat Itachi in the genjutsu battle and even tho Zetsu verified that ppl will still disagree. Sasuke manipulated amaterasu and someone at the summit said Sasuke surpassed Itachi's amaterasu but despite that ppl still keep Itachi on this pedalstol a step higher than Sasuke.. man i really hate that guy....lol

btw im not even a Sasuke fan i just think ya need to start giving Sasuke the credit he deserves cuz HELLO EVERYONE HE IS THE MAIN BAD GUY!!! and if you dont agree with me that he already surpassed Itachi realize that eventually he will
I did not ask for your opinion cause it was written in black on white... And you saying Itachi went all out on sasuke is the proof that I was (partially wrong cause you admitted he would have won) right and that you underestimate the guy...

Sasuke did not win the genjutsu battle... Danzo also made a note of how Itachi's Genjutsu was sooo much better than Sasuke's when they fight each other... Itachi let him.... Also Itachi probably did had to use all of what was left of his strength but if he actually went all out the fight would not have lasted, and Itachi would not have used all his strength... you seem to disregard the fact that Itachi meant to achieve a couple goals in this fight against his baby bro... :
Number one goal Kill Orochimaru... which he achieved in a couple seconds when he poped out of sasuke... but in order to achieve his number one goal he had to exaust Sasuke.
Number two... Make the fight look real... thus he had to take hits, he had to make it look like he was surprised... in fact he did so well that even Zetsu thought Sasuke had won the genjutsu battle...
Number three... implement a special trap for tobi... which failed.
and number four, die from his brother's hands...

The combination of all 4 goals were almost perfectly executed (he failed the 3rd one)
Now please at least tell me that you realized by now that Itachi was self sabotaging himself in order for his goals to be accomplished....
 

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he surpassed itachi's powers bc of itachi lol he gave him powers to sasuke if it wasnt for itachi sasuke would b weak right now
i completely agree with you that Sasuke passed Itachi's powers.lol

but seriously you can see it that way.. i think though Sasuke passed him before the transplant.

He does lol




Lol if u say so...but u can't argue facts, we never seen e-tot at full power, and u swear by da 4th lol
no i dont man.. i already told u da deal on that..

yea yea yea the oh so famous "We never seen Itachi's true powers".. well you are right friend.. i cant wait wen he gets pwned in this war tho wen he does use his "True Powers".. i wonder wat the new Itachi excuse is gunna be..

btw i dont swear by anyone.. the 4th is cool and all but i would prefer Gaara and Raikage as favorite characters over the 4th..
 

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Well, Itachi haven't lived long to explore more of his powers. But I guess he would be able to. Though, each Sharingan develops different types of power for every user.
 

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i completely agree with you that Sasuke passed Itachi's powers.lol

but seriously you can see it that way.. i think though Sasuke passed him before the transplant.
Then explain to us why it is so when I said:

Sasuke did not surpass his brother not even by a little.... Especially in the kage summits.... All he did in that summit was pulling susano'o until he was out of strength!!!!!! Itachi would have not only pulled susano'o much later than Sasuke, but when he did pulled it off he ACTUALLY WOULD HAVE DONE SOMETHING ELSE than just sitting around waiting for shit to happen!
Please explain us.... simple minded living being whom do not seem to understand the logic...
 

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By the way I would also like to bring up that he one shoted Orochimaru with susano'o's sword.... Just something to consider.
 

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i completely agree with you that Sasuke passed Itachi's powers.lol

but seriously you can see it that way.. i think though Sasuke passed him before the transplant.



no i dont man.. i already told u da deal on that..

yea yea yea the oh so famous "We never seen Itachi's true powers".. well you are right friend.. i cant wait wen he gets pwned in this war tho wen he does use his "True Powers".. i wonder wat the new Itachi excuse is gunna be..

btw i dont swear by anyone.. the 4th is cool and all but i would prefer Gaara and Raikage as favorite characters over the 4th..
Dat was not my words my dude...I said full power ...for all I know he used everything at his disposal but every time we saw him fight he (in fact) was sick going ,blind, ect ....so my words are full power not true power...

look at it like dis say u can do 30 push-ups now ,but when u have da flu u can do 15...still push-ups and still a lot but it is not ur "full power"
 

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I did not ask for your opinion cause it was written in black on white... And you saying Itachi went all out on sasuke is the proof that I was (partially wrong cause you admitted he would have won) right and that you underestimate the guy...

Sasuke did not win the genjutsu battle... Danzo also made a note of how Itachi's Genjutsu was sooo much better than Sasuke's when they fight each other... Itachi let him.... Also Itachi probably did had to use all of what was left of his strength but if he actually went all out the fight would not have lasted, and Itachi would not have used all his strength... you seem to disregard the fact that Itachi meant to achieve a couple goals in this fight against his baby bro... :
Number one goal Kill Orochimaru... which he achieved in a couple seconds when he poped out of sasuke... but in order to achieve his number one goal he had to exaust Sasuke.
Number two... Make the fight look real... thus he had to take hits, he had to make it look like he was surprised... in fact he did so well that even Zetsu thought Sasuke had won the genjutsu battle...
Number three... implement a special trap for tobi... which failed.
and number four, die from his brother's hands...

The combination of all 4 goals were almost perfectly executed (he failed the 3rd one)
Now please at least tell me that you realized by now that Itachi was self sabotaging himself in order for his goals to be accomplished....
wow u pissing me off.. bad enough u rubbed me the wrong way and i didnt even dis u..

if you aint ask me for my opinion than wtf u commented on it?!? it was black and white not for you but for 3 other ppl who i was talking to and you commented not even fully knowing what i meant or where i was coming from.

no man you was completely wrong as you misjudged my opinion on the whole thing and didnt even knew where i stood as to Itachi vs Sasuke. you didnt bother to ask either.. kinda ignorant on your part..

you are the perfect example of the Hardcore Kill a Person for Itachi Fan that i was just speaking about.!

Sasuke with his regular sharingan beat Itachi with his MS sharingan and this was noted by Zetsu!



White Zetsu "I didnt think it would be that quick... oh well Itachi wins"

Black Zetsu "He does?"

White Zetsu "Well yeah. Sasuke just ate a Tsukuyomi. He wont be able to move any more... you'll be snacking on him in no time"

Itachi drops to his knees holding his left eye in pain

White Zetsu confused "wha?"



Itachi also confused and in disbelief "My Tsukuyomi...you.."

Sasuke on his 2 feet smirking at Itachi whos still on his knees

White Zetsu "whaaaaa? How is Sasuke not collapsed on the ground? He just got hit with Tsukuyomi!"

Black Zetsu "No. He didnt get hit. He....he overcame it"



white Zetsu "He did? How could someone with a regular sharingan beat someone with Mangekyou?!"

Black Zetsu "The sharingan is just another shinobi tool. a tool is only as powerful as the shinobi who uses it... An expert with a stone can still beat a novice with a shuriken. All he needs is more skill and more power. SO BASICALLY ITACHI UNDERESTIMATED SAUKE'S POTENTIAL."

go check the links for yourself.. co sign by the only witness in the fight, Zetsu.. Sasuke with a regular sharingan beat Itachi's Mangekyou genjutsu!

Danzo stated Sasuke's Tsukuyomi was not as good as Itachi's and Madara even agreed and i agree its true but that doesnt mean Sasuke is bad with genjuts. nor does it mean Itachi didnt lose to Sasuke in genjutsu battle cuz he apparently did.. Sasuke doesnt have the level of control Itachi has. Sasuke has shown us his great genjutsu abilities many times, interogating a cloud ninja to find Killer Bees location, temporarily stopping Bee and he even used a weak genjutsu on Danzo that was key in defeating Danzo!!



Madara "Danzo... It's just as you said. It's [Sasuke] no match for Itachi's Tsukiyomi which can control time..."




Madara "It's a weak genjutsu that doesnt last long. But the trick is knowing when to use it"

yea i find it hilarious that Danzo tries to play Sasuke on his genjutsu game and in the end Sasuke pwns him with a weak one

yes Itachi is better at genjutsu but he did not "let" Sasuke win. you see its comments like that you again prove how much of an Itachi fanboy you are. ppl like you deny Sasuke any credit whatsoever when the proof is crystal clear.

Itachi underestimated Sasuke on his genjutsu skills. Itachi was suprised of Sasuke's speed. he told Sasuke he got better. he admitted to Sasuke that Kiri would have killed him if not for Sasuno. he said Sasuke was clever in using Oro's jutsu to avoid amaterasu. Itachi gave Sasuke mad props that you Itachi fanboys deny him. Yes agreed sick Itachi would have won if he was serious but Sasuke held his wieght agaisnt him!! admit it..

Itachi acheived his goal of dying.. whoop te doo what is your point in saying that?!?

goals

1. free Sasuke from Oro.. though not your exact words i agreed and i ALREADY SAID THAT!!!

2. agreed he had to make it look real but not for Zetsu's sake. and nobody was fooled Itachi lost genjutsu battle.. accept it man.. stop denying ..

3. implement trap wasnt a goal but like a precaution but whatever i agree despite how you put it

4. die in his bros hands uh durr i SAID THAT TOO!! read wat i say man dont repeat wat i already know and stated

"self sabotaging"????? wtf do you listen to yourself?!?! im not gunna answer such a stupid question cuz i never sed he was self sabotaging matter fact i even said Itachi goals before u did ..

like i said u just fit the picture of those Hardcore Itachi Fans.. u proved everything i was saying earlier..

i cant wait for Itachi to get pwned in this war !!!!!
 

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Then explain to us why it is so when I said:



Please explain us.... simple minded living being whom do not seem to understand the logic...
those quotes that you commented to were not meant for you so you can hop off now.. seriously.. stop riding me.. you didnt ask for my opinions soo why do you continue to comment them?!

btw on ya last sentence ...troll is obvious.. obvious is troll

and you know how i know you hardcore trolling !??! im not even the one who said that that last comment you quoted but you commented on it, deleted who it was really from and made it sound like i was the "simple minded living being".. wow that shows your true colors

troll is unsucessful... unsucessful is troll

By the way I would also like to bring up that he one shoted Orochimaru with susano'o's sword.... Just something to consider.
"By the way i would also like to bring up that"....hop off my meat
 
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Dat was not my words my dude...I said full power ...for all I know he used everything at his disposal but every time we saw him fight he (in fact) was sick going ,blind, ect ....so my words are full power not true power...

look at it like dis say u can do 30 push-ups now ,but when u have da flu u can do 15...still push-ups and still a lot but it is not ur "full power"
well "true" power could be seen as "full" power but i completely understand what you mean.. my fault on the mis quote..


and you know what i agree we havent seen his "full" power and even if we saw his whole aresenal he was always handicapped (blind, dying etc)

and ya analogy makes sense and i agree.. thats why i say Itachi even tho sick was still able to win but chose not to. despite that also he fought with everything he had.. biggest proof he fought with everything is that when Sasuke had nothing left Itachi dropped dead.. Sasuke did not give a finishing blow!! Itachi dropped due to his sickness and exaustion.. using Sasuno, Amaterasu, Tsukiyomi, blocking thunderbolts and sealing 8 headed snake monsters gotta take its toll on a person on meds and pills just to keep himself alive...

understand where im comingg from?!
 

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Funny how you're calling everyone who disagrees with you an "Itachi fan" when you're acting like a "Sasuke fan". Don't worry though, it's normal to defend your favourite character but "it doesn't count" is not a good argument.

While I respect your opinion, I agree with Stampy, black uchiha and 19 other people who posted here.

we haven't seen Itachi fight at full strength ever so we can't say for sure, but from what we do know; he can put out Amaterasu. We have not seen him control its shape with blaze release.

Like someone said though, he's more of a genjutsu specialist so it would make more sense if hes better at using Tsukiyomi than Amaterasu, which he was. I don't think there's anyone better in the manga as of yet who has shown to be better at using genjutsus than Itachi.

That being said, we haven't seen Itachi in a real battle where he is fighting at his maximum potential but hopefully we do during this war.

About Sasuke surpassing Itachi. This is how the manga works. The younger generation will surpass the previous one. Itachi and Kakashi have both stated this. Sasuke is made to surpass Itachi just as Naruto is made to surpass his father, Minato.

Sasuke is also Kishi's favourite so I don't see how he won't become one of the strongest besides Naruto. This is turning out to be another DBZ where all the supporting characters are left to rot while the 2 main characters shine. Goku and Vegeta anyone?
My old post. Itachi did let Sasuke win. Had he been serious, Sasuke would not be alive. Those are Madara's words. By serious, Madara meant fighting seriously at his maximum potential. What else could he mean? The whole battle was set-up in Sasuke's favour; he was not going to lose or die.
 

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and ya analogy makes sense and i agree.. thats why i say Itachi even tho sick was still able to win but chose not to. despite that also he fought with everything he had.. biggest proof he fought with everything is that when Sasuke had nothing left Itachi dropped dead.. Sasuke did not give a finishing blow!! Itachi dropped due to his sickness and exaustion.. using Sasuno, Amaterasu, Tsukiyomi, blocking thunderbolts and sealing 8 headed snake monsters gotta take its toll on a person on meds and pills just to keep himself alive...

understand where im comingg from?!
he lived long enough to seal Orochimaru, do u think Oro would have came out if he used Susano'o right away? He came forth because he saw Itachi dying. He knew Itachi was out of chakra. Sasuke couldn't do shit at the end either, he was terrified, shaking, unable to do anything and unable to move because he thought his eyes were gone. Itachi did what he wanted to do and died. He didn't need to try even in that state if he wanted to kill Sasuke.

EDIT: Let's get back to topic. Just read my last post's QUOTE. I don't want to argue about this anymore. You can think what you want and we'll just stick to our opinions, that way u don't have to agree with us and vice versa.
 
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Funny how you're calling everyone who disagrees with you an "Itachi fan" when you're acting like a "Sasuke fan". Don't worry though, it's normal to defend your favourite character but "it doesn't count" is not a good argument.

While I respect your opinion, I agree with Stampy, black uchiha and 19 other people who posted here.



My old post. Itachi did let Sasuke win. Had he been serious, Sasuke would not be alive. Those are Madara's words. By serious, Madara meant fighting seriously at his maximum potential. What else could he mean? The whole battle was set-up in Sasuke's favour; he was not going to lose or die.
smh im not a Sasuke fan... trust me hes my least favorite but all im trying to say is give Sasuke the credit he deserves and stop making Itachi out so be some God ninja... thats all man

and before replying to me you should read what i wrote cuz your just saying everything that i already said like that troll Stampy..

and i do agree on some of ya on alot on what your saying ya are just not seeing it...
 

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he lived long enough to seal Orochimaru, do u think Oro would have came out if he used Susano'o right away? He came forth because he saw Itachi dying. He knew Itachi was out of chakra. Sasuke couldn't do shit at the end either, he was terrified, shaking, unable to do anything and unable to move because he thought his eyes were gone. Itachi did what he wanted to do and died. He didn't need to try even in that state if he wanted to kill Sasuke.
lmfaoooo omg you are killing me!!!! why are you argueing with me !??! i completely agree!!!!!!! lmfaoooooooo

plz stop replying to me and actually read what i write so you can get the point .. u always come at me argueing for no reason when i didnt say nothing u just did
 

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EDIT: Let's get back to topic. Just read my last post's QUOTE. I don't want to argue about this anymore. You can think what you want and we'll just stick to our opinions, that way u don't have to agree with us and vice versa.
nobody is argueing but you!!

you failed to realize what i was saying and where i stood and did the same mistake as Stampy.

you came at me argueing a whole bunch of points that i already stated myself..

this reminds me of the other thread you did this..

look mans im not tryna disrspect u im just saying basically Itachi is overrated. Sasuke deserves more credit. other than that i agree with almost everything you say

btw Sasuke is not my fav character.. im just saying
 
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