Issue with Customs and Sharing

[Typhon]

This is something thats always bothered me about customs. Why is allowed that people can just "give away" customs. I bring it up now with Hasashi's departure and his list of people whom he is allowing to use his customs. Its not just because of that, but as its the most recent and pretty extreme example I figured I would use it.

Here is the link to Hasashi's customs:

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In this list there are numerous A rank and S rank techniques, as well as some forbidden ones. Some of these are what some would consider "OP" or at least very strong. Now in his departure thread he left these customs in the hands of:

-karin-(you said you wanted customs ), Akiza, Alucard, Ingwer, Crutch, Drizzy, Gats(if you want them), Ali, Mugi, Orange Hokage, Seven, Jake(if he ever comes back), DS, Kaito, Shiggy.

Kaos, Keotsu, Liliana, Emp.

Thats 19 members who just gained access to numerous A, S and Forbidden rank techniques without doing any sort of training or work whatsoever. To me this seems ridiculous. Its a cheap and quick way of gaining a lot of strong techniques and it really takes away from the idea of custom jutsu. Custom jutsu are supposed to be personalized techniques that a person takes pride in owning. They're supposed to be what makes your fighting style unique.


My suggestion is if you want to give other people access to your Customs you should need to create a training thread and actually teach them how to use them. If you wanted to go even further, we could restrict it so you need to be a sempai or a sensei in order to share your customs.

This would help limit the amount of jutsu given away as people wouldn't want to be bothered training others, or they would simply not be able to due to not having a sempai or sensei status. It would also help preserve the uniqueness that custom jutsu are supposed to bring.



As for when someone is leaving the site as Hasashi is, I think it would be a waste if their customs became useless. So another suggestion is that in the case of someone leaving, they can give access to their customs to at most 2 other people. But if the person ever returns, the access would be revoked.


Tell me what you guys think.

 

[Gatsndshanks]

imo You complain to much

 

[Typhon]

imo You complain to much

Thank you for your valued input. ^_^

 

[Ben-sama]

You should quit trying to make rules for everything, honestly. -_-

 

[Typhon]

Okay, if you disagree with it care to explain why?

 

[Shig]

I find that pretty futile. .-.

It's their customs, they can do with them as they please. Training or not, it doesn't matter.

 

[The_Empire]

I think you should be a sempai or a sensei to train your jutsus or a ex sempai or a ex sensei to train your jutsus

 

[Ben-sama]

Okay, if you disagree with it care to explain why?

What Shig said :|

 

[Typhon]

I find that pretty futile. .-.

It's their customs, they can do with them as they please. Training or not, it doesn't matter.

So just because they made them they should be able to give anyone access to them without any sort of process? Even if they're Forbidden ranked techniques that are incredibly OP?

That just doesn't make sense to me.....

 

[Kawagiri]

all customs should be taught imo excluding the special case of someone quitting... upon quitting, teaching to as many as you want doesn't matter as they could teach the jutsu to as many people as they want when they were online, unless of course the option made is to make someone else teach the jutsu in place of the quitter...

 

[Shig]

So just because they made them they should be able to give anyone access to them without any sort of process? Even if they're Forbidden ranked techniques that are incredibly OP?

That just doesn't make sense to me.....

No, it doesn't. But there would be entirely too much to teach. And it's been like this forever, now even saying you need to be a Sempai or even Sensei to teach them makes it that much more difficult to give access to customs, as there is a limited amount of persons that have that rank. :|

So I'm going to say no.

 

[ZK]

I know i might not have the experinece needed, to have a valuable opinion about this, but i think Bahamut is right, Hasashi's mera mera is extremely OP, and he's given it to people who's already OP, and ofcourse training should be required to learn customs...

 

[Shig]

I know i might not have the experinece needed, to have a valuable opinion about this, but i think Bahamut is right, Hasashi's mera mera is extremely OP, and he's given it to people who's already OP, and ofcourse training should be required to learn customs...

I don't get why people debate this "OPness". If they get it approved, they can give it to anyone, period, over and out. :|

This is what I hate in people, when they have to recieve something they will defend their point until death, but when they see somebody else recieve something that they like and wish for, they try to find a way to make that person lose.

It's the exact same thing I see in you too, Baha. .-. No offence, but if you were on that list you wouldn't have had anything against it anymore, would you?

 

[Typhon]

No, it doesn't. But there would be entirely too much to teach. And it's been like this forever, now even saying you need to be a Sempai or even Sensei to teach them makes it that much more difficult to give access to customs, as there is a limited amount of persons that have that rank. :|

So I'm going to say no.

I was just giving that sempai/sensei status requirement as a third choice, personally I don't think you should need it.


As for it being too much to teach, thats the point. It would prevent people from sharing their entire list with someone, which I think takes away from the point of customs.

I don't get why people debate this "OPness". If they get it approved, they can give it to anyone, period, over and out.

This is what I hate in people, when they have to recieve something they will defend their point until death, but when they see somebody else recieve something that they like and wish for, they try to find a way to make that person lose.

It's the exact same thing I see in you too, Baha. .-. No offence, but if you were on that list you wouldn't have had anything against it anymore, would you?

I agree that they can give it to anyone, but there should be a process so that they're more reluctant to just give it out.


If I was on that list I most likely would never use them. If my memory serves me right I've never asked anyone for their customs. I've thought this way long before this Hasashi episode. I'm just using it because its the most recent and one of the more extreme examples I've seen.

 

[Xylon]

So your basically saying you want take the right or restrict the right to give away your customs O_O

 

[Typhon]

So your basically saying you want take the right or restrict the right to give away your customs O_O

What I'm saying is you should have to teach your customs to people rather than just allowing them to use them. You can teach your customs to as many people as you want, as long as you and those people are willing to put in the time.

 

[Scarface]

God sake. Is there a legitimate reason to put rules and restrictions on everything? There is already a line of people who want to be sensei for both the rep you get as a sensei. And the various perks senseis get.

What DN said is absolutely retarded. As for having to teach customs. Why? Any noob can make a custom. And I for one, as a sempai, Dont really want to see 20000000 spam threads of a bunch of noobs teaching their customs :/

On an off note, everyone always uses this term "OPness" say that out loud for once. Then stop using it cause it sounds weird as hell O_O

 

[DOD_bld]

First I don't have permission to read the link

Second, I don't think it is responsible to allow RPers that have to work for their jutsus to just pass or be passed CJ that they had no part in making, and also have not been trained to use. It also doesn't fix the rhetoric of the RP rules or beliefs of those that RP.

Third, I do feel that people should be allowed to pass on their own CJ without needing to be a sensei or sempai... What if someone doesn't want to be one? Are they now not allowed to pass on a jutsu that only they know? That's dumb in my opinion.

 

[Akiza]

I'm really not gonna vote on this poll, because this has been one of those NB's great debates. That, and the options really don't suit how I feel about it either. It's been like this ever since the first good person left NB and had customs. It was their choice to give them away, with or without training, and everyone just went along with it. For me, the same applies here. Hasashi made the customs, he left, and gave them to the people he wished to give them to. People really should just respect the guy's wishes, as he just left like what, yesterday? .-. Plus, Hasashi is quite lazy as most, if not all of us, know, so if there was a requirement that before you leave you have to teach the person you want to give them to your customs, Hasashi wouldn't have given them to anyone, because that's just the person we know him to be. Let sleeping dogs lie imho.

 

[Xylon]

What I'm saying is you should have to teach your customs to people rather than just allowing them to use them. You can teach your customs to as many people as you want, as long as you and those people are willing to put in the time.

so you expect him to stay around for another month and teach all that to the ppl he wanted to have those