Issue with Customs and Sharing

[Typhon]

God sake. Is there a legitimate reason to put rules and restrictions on everything? There is already a line of people who want to be sensei for both the rep you get as a sensei. And the various perks senseis get.

What DN said is absolutely retarded. As for having to teach customs. Why? Any noob can make a custom. And I for one, as a sempai, Dont really want to see 20000000 spam threads of a bunch of noobs teaching their customs :/

On an off note, everyone always uses this term "OPness" say that out loud for once. Then stop using it cause it sounds weird as hell O_O

The beauty of the internet is that you don't have to say the word out loud.


So you don't see an issue with 19 people instantly getting access to A, S and Foribidden rank techniques?

I feel like I'm going crazy.......nobody sees an issue with that?

 

[Typhon]

so you expect him to stay around for another month and teach all that to the ppl he wanted to have those

No, thats why I said in the case of someone leaving the site they could allow their customs to 2 people, but if they returned that access would be revoked.

 

[-Mugen-]

its true.In my opinion you should have to teach your customs not just give them away.meh but there are too many noobs for that to happen.
I say we should restrict the CJ thread to Sannin and up.(or S-rank and up >_>) Because honestly when did you see a genin create there own jutsu >_<

 

[Scarface]

The beauty of the internet is that you don't have to say the word out loud.


So you don't see an issue with 19 people instantly getting access to A, S and Foribidden rank techniques?

I feel like I'm going crazy.......nobody sees an issue with that?

I was also ranted the techniques. They arent really all that OP But I do see your point. But at the same time, I have to agree with Shig. They are his customs. They belong to him. I feel that we should all be able to do as we please with our customs.

 

[Kaziname]

I voted for option number 2 (the one where user needs to teach others how to use their customs). It would be hard to teach 19 people all your customs (one would be hard enough). As xylon said, it would really be time consuming so I have an Idea (I don't know if anyone else proposed it so just notify me if you have. I don't have time to read 2 full pages...). One could buy a jutsu scroll from Nexus or Rei (or anyone else that could handle a lot of kumi). That jutsu scroll would be of same nature as one from which Naruto learned Shadow clone jutsu. Each user's jutsu that would be written on that scroll would cost, for example, 1000 kumi (it would be even better to determine cost by jutsu's rank but I don't have time for that right now). Then, student would need, for example, 2-3 days until he would learn all jutsus from scroll and then he would pass down the scroll to next student or give it back to jutsu maker. That way, we would keep, both ability to give away our customs to many people and RP in that whole jutsu transaction.

 

[Akiza]

its true.In my opinion you should have to teach your customs not just give them away.meh but there are too many noobs for that to happen.
I say we should restrict the CJ thread to Sannin and up.(or S-rank and up >_>) Because honestly when did you see a genin create there own jutsu >_<

That's the beauty of customs though. Anyone can make them, no matter what rank they are. I've seen some genin and chunin and other low ranked ninja make customs on the CJ thread and have them approved. They aren't strong customs, no, but they are customs nonetheless. And once you make a custom, it's yours. You can do what you want with it, until you part ways with the site, and if you want to give your custom(s) to someone without training them in them, then that's your decision. Customs are personal creations, and should be handled the way they wish by their creator.

 

[Typhon]

I was also ranted the techniques. They arent really all that OP But I do see your point. But at the same time, I have to agree with Shig. They are his customs. They belong to him. I feel that we should all be able to do as we please with our customs.

He should be able to teach them to whoever he wants but there should be some sort of limit.

Lets say his customs were the abilities of a canon character and came with that bio when created. Chances are there would be restrictions on that bio, some sort of test or whatever.

But since they're customs he was able to give them out to whoever he wanted with no restrictions whatsoever giving tons of people access to them with no effort being given by any body.


All I'm saying is you should have to teach them. I don't think thats too unreasonable. You need to put in work to get strong techniques in every other way, why should it be any different when it comes to someone's customs?

 

[Akiza]

I voted for option number 2 (the one where user needs to teach others how to use their customs). It would be hard to teach 19 people all your customs (one would be hard enough). As xylon said, it would really be time consuming so I have an Idea (I don't know if anyone else proposed it so just notify me if you have. I don't have time to read 2 full pages...). One could buy a jutsu scroll from Nexus or Rei (or anyone else that could handle a lot of kumi). That jutsu scroll would be of same nature as one from which Naruto learned Shadow clone jutsu. Each user's jutsu that would be written on that scroll would cost, for example, 1000 kumi (it would be even better to determine cost by jutsu's rank but I don't have time for that right now). Then, student would need, for example, 2-3 days until he would learn all jutsus from scroll and then he would pass down the scroll to next student or give it back to jutsu maker. That way, we would keep, both ability to give away our customs to many people and RP in that whole jutsu transaction.

Too much time consuming, and I don't think Nexus and Rei would want that much work on their hands. As I said already, once you make a custom and get it approved, it is your creation, and you should be able to do what you want with it. If you part ways with the site, and decide to give them to someone, then that's you (moreover if you want to teach them in your customs). People usually haven't complained about it until now, and again, as I said before, this has been one of those many controversial topics on NB ever since the first member made customs and left, and gave them to who they wished to give them to, and if they wanted to train them in the customs, then that's them, and people just went along with it. And heck, not everyone are gonna use the customs they've been given, so just let the sleeping dogs lie.

 

[Akiza]

He should be able to teach them to whoever he wants but there should be some sort of limit.

Lets say his customs were the abilities of a canon character and came with that bio when created. Chances are there would be restrictions on that bio, some sort of test or whatever.

But since they're customs he was able to give them out to whoever he wanted with no restrictions whatsoever giving tons of people access to them with no effort being given by any body.


All I'm saying is you should have to teach them. I don't think thats too unreasonable. You need to put in work to get strong techniques in every other way, why should it be any different when it comes to someone's customs?

I'll reply to this post as I seem to have been ignored with my previous and most recent ones.

Canon character abilities or jutsu, first off, can't be made into CJ, unless you have that canon character's bio. The mods point that out when you submit them and usually give you a fair warning on it. Also, if they're abilities of a canon/specific character, and that person the CJ are given to doesn't have that character's bio, then that person just can't use them unless they make that canon character's bio.

And I'll say it for the fourth time now. This has been quite a controversial issue ever since the first person who NB had customs. They could have given them to someone without training them in it, and everyone was just fine with it. CJ are that person's PERSONAL CREATIONS, and should be treated as such. Let the creator of the CJ do what they want with them, and just deal with it if you're not happy about it. If someone leaves and passes on their customs to someone else, then that's that person. It's not very nice to complain about someone who just left FREAKIN YESTERDAY about what they decided to do with their customs. Hasashi gave his customs to who he wanted to give them to, and that's him.
Let the sleeping dog lie.

And before you say I'm saying this just because I got his customs, I'm not. It's just been that way for as long as I can remember, and people have just have to deal with what's being presented to them. Simple enough, no? There will always be haters....jeez.

 

[Kaziname]

Too much time consuming, and I don't think Nexus and Rei would want that much work on their hands. As I said already, once you make a custom and get it approved, it is your creation, and you should be able to do what you want with it. If you part ways with the site, and decide to give them to someone, then that's you (moreover if you want to teach them in your customs). People usually haven't complained about it until now, and again, as I said before, this has been one of those many controversial topics on NB ever since the first member made customs and left, and gave them to who they wished to give them to, and if they wanted to train them in the customs, then that's them, and people just went along with it. And heck, not everyone are gonna use the customs they've been given, so just let the sleeping dogs lie.

I completely understand you but it isn't okay to do it like this either. I believe that CJ should have restricions like CE jutsus. For example, 14 jutsu that you created and 10 jutsus that you were allowed to use by others (maybe more, maybe less, you comment it). All custom jutsus could be, if necessary, easily discarded and replaced by other custom jutsus.

 

[Typhon]

Too much time consuming, and I don't think Nexus and Rei would want that much work on their hands. As I said already, once you make a custom and get it approved, it is your creation, and you should be able to do what you want with it. If you part ways with the site, and decide to give them to someone, then that's you (moreover if you want to teach them in your customs). People usually haven't complained about it until now, and again, as I said before, this has been one of those many controversial topics on NB ever since the first member made customs and left, and gave them to who they wished to give them to, and if they wanted to train them in the customs, then that's them, and people just went along with it. And heck, not everyone are gonna use the customs they've been given, so just let the sleeping dogs lie.

I agree that Kazi's suggestion is too much. My idea is very simple, just teach the jutsu. No restrictions other than that.

I understand the whole idea that they're your jutsu and you should be able to do whatever you want with them. But in every other aspect of the RP you need to put in work to get abilities. To learn an element, you need to train. To get bios with certain abilities you need to take tests. To make custom elements you need them to be approved. etc.

So why is that because they're custom jutsu you can get 10 S ranked techniques in an instant with no effort?

 

[Akiza]

I completely understand you but it isn't okay to do it like this either. I believe that CJ should have restricions like CE jutsus. For example, 14 jutsu that you created and 10 jutsus that you were allowed to use by others (maybe more, maybe less, you comment it). All custom jutsus could be, if necessary, easily discarded and replaced by other custom jutsus.

We already do that, as I believe you can only have like what, 25-35 customs? I don't know the exact number. People drop customs, and even give the ones they drop to the others they want, all to make room for new customs, new creations, new ideas that they get approved to use.

 

[Scary Yamato]

God sake. Is there a legitimate reason to put rules and restrictions on everything? There is already a line of people who want to be sensei for both the rep you get as a sensei. And the various perks senseis get. What DN said is absolutely retarded. As for having to teach customs. Why? Any noob can make a custom. And I for one, as a sempai, Dont really want to see 20000000 spam threads of a bunch of noobs teaching their customs :/

On an off note, everyone always uses this term "OPness" say that out loud for once. Then stop using it cause it sounds weird as hell O_O

O_O am I missing something? What are these perks you speak of? Back in the day it instantly rose your rank but I dont think that happens now. My satisfaction from beng a sensei is when you get to see your students kick someone's ass and knowing that you made that happen. ^_^

Too much time consuming, and I don't think Nexus and Rei would want that much work on their hands. As I said already, once you make a custom and get it approved, it is your creation, and you should be able to do what you want with it. If you part ways with the site, and decide to give them to someone, then that's you (moreover if you want to teach them in your customs). People usually haven't complained about it until now, and again, as I said before, this has been one of those many controversial topics on NB ever since the first member made customs and left, and gave them to who they wished to give them to, and if they wanted to train them in the customs, then that's them, and people just went along with it. And heck, not everyone are gonna use the customs they've been given, so just let the sleeping dogs lie.

Agreed. now I think if you are still here it should be taught, BUT if you are leaving (like in hasashi's case and mine at one point) it should be considered like leaving a scroll behind for your students/friends to look through. This is just a case of the "have's" vs. the "have-not's".

Shorthand version: haters gonna hate.

 

[Scary Yamato]

I agree that Kazi's suggestion is too much. My idea is very simple, just teach the jutsu. No restrictions other than that.

I understand the whole idea that they're your jutsu and you should be able to do whatever you want with them. But in every other aspect of the RP you need to put in work to get abilities. To learn an element, you need to train. To get bios with certain abilities you need to take tests. To make custom elements you need them to be approved. etc.

So why is that because they're custom jutsu you can get 10 S ranked techniques in an instant with no effort?

I do think that if if you are going to use someone elses jutsu it should count towards your 30 custom jutsu (I forget the limit) and you need to list them under your customs. that way people aren't running around with 289,438 custom jutsu

 

[Akiza]

I agree that Kazi's suggestion is too much. My idea is very simple, just teach the jutsu. No restrictions other than that.

I understand the whole idea that they're your jutsu and you should be able to do whatever you want with them. But in every other aspect of the RP you need to put in work to get abilities. To learn an element, you need to train. To get bios with certain abilities you need to take tests. To make custom elements you need them to be approved. etc.

So why is that because they're custom jutsu you can get 10 S ranked techniques in an instant with no effort?

Because that's just how it's been for heck who knows how long. Elements, abilities, etc., are just separate because customs usually don't include them (unless its a custom of a basic 5 element or a special one); abilities (canon ones to be more exact) can't be made into CJ unless you have that specific bio; and moreover on abilities, we give our summons and custom weapons abilities we want them to have now don't we? I don't see anyone complaining on that, because, in the anime/manga, (excluding some toads and enma), we haven't seen summons have abilities that we give ours. Why? Because they're custom, and we want to be different from the manga/anime, cause if everything on here was like the anime/manga, then we would only be able to summon and make what we see there, and there would be no such things as customs whatsoever. We don't want that now do we? We want to be unique, no? See what I'm saying here?

 

[Akiza]

I do think that if if you are going to use someone elses jutsu it should count towards your 30 custom jutsu (I forget the limit) and you need to list them under your customs. that way people aren't running around with 289,438 custom jutsu

I don't know if we do this already or not, but I'm so so on this one...overall, customs will always be controversial, like me and you said SY...Haters gonna hate. They just have to learn how to deal with the hand the world gives them.

 

[Typhon]

Because that's just how it's been for heck who knows how long. Elements, abilities, etc., are just separate because customs usually don't include them (unless its a custom of a basic 5 element or a special one); abilities (canon ones to be more exact) can't be made into CJ unless you have that specific bio; and moreover on abilities, we give our summons and custom weapons abilities we want them to have now don't we? I don't see anyone complaining on that, because, in the anime/manga, (excluding some toads and enma), we haven't seen summons have abilities that we give ours. Why? Because they're custom, and we want to be different from the manga/anime, cause if everything on here was like the anime/manga, then we would only be able to summon and make what we see there, and there would be no such things as customs whatsoever. We don't want that now do we? We want to be unique, no? See what I'm saying here?

Slavery was around for thousands of years, but that doesn't mean it was right. (extreme example FTW xd)


To be honest I don't really get the rest of your post. What does it have to do with giving away customs?


And I agree we want to be unique, which is what customs are for. To make YOU unique. Being able to give the customs away to numerous people is the exact opposite of that.

 

[Scarface]

He should be able to teach them to whoever he wants but there should be some sort of limit.

Lets say his customs were the abilities of a canon character and came with that bio when created. Chances are there would be restrictions on that bio, some sort of test or whatever.

But since they're customs he was able to give them out to whoever he wanted with no restrictions whatsoever giving tons of people access to them with no effort being given by any body.


All I'm saying is you should have to teach them. I don't think thats too unreasonable. You need to put in work to get strong techniques in every other way, why should it be any different when it comes to someone's customs?

Yeah but like i said. That would just be annoying on the senseis and sempais :/

 

[Typhon]

Yeah but like i said. That would just be annoying on the senseis and sempais :/

I see what you're saying with that.

Maybe a different section could be created for custom teaching? I hate to suggest that because I was trying to keep this as simple as possible.....but oh well.

 

[Akiza]

Slavery was around for thousands of years, but that doesn't mean it was right. (extreme example FTW xd)


To be honest I don't really get the rest of your post. What does it have to do with giving away customs?


And I agree we want to be unique, which is what customs are for. To make YOU unique. Being able to give the customs away to numerous people is the exact opposite of that.

Irl history stuff doesn't count here in the world wide web now does it?

Custom Weapons and Summons are Customs aren't they? (heck they have them in front of their name) And yet we give them to who we want as well, and everyone just goes with it, no problems whatsoever. And yet when someone goes away and gives someone else their customs, without teaching them, there will be someone who will complain. It just doesn't happen often. lol. Again, haters gonna hate. Just deal with it is all I'm saying, and let the sleeping dogs lie xd

I see what you're saying with that.

Maybe a different section could be created for custom teaching? I hate to suggest that because I was trying to keep this as simple as possible.....but oh well.

Again, too much work xd. There will and always will be only one training grounds xd and its general enough to teach elements, jutsu and customs already xd