[Game] Our loved Mangakas and their masterpieces Mafia Game #19
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Okay peeps. I'm back and ready for action:
Scum team:
Lan : just cause
Alice : the new playstyle is quite interactive. Which is nt like Alice.
Poison : just cause.
Town:
Red
Moth : said they were town
Elmage : so did they.
Neutral:
Everyone else. : they were too wishy washy for my liking. They dont ping me as either side currently.
Scum team:
Lan : just cause
Alice : the new playstyle is quite interactive. Which is nt like Alice.
Poison : just cause.
Town:
Red
Moth : said they were town
Elmage : so did they.
Neutral:
Everyone else. : they were too wishy washy for my liking. They dont ping me as either side currently.
....No. Just...no.Okay peeps. I'm back and ready for action:
Scum team:
Lan : just cause
Alice : the new playstyle is quite interactive. Which is nt like Alice.
Poison : just cause.
Town:
Red
Moth : said they were town
Elmage : so did they.
Neutral:
Everyone else. : they were too wishy washy for my liking. They dont ping me as either side currently.
Votelynch: @All_Red
Back to the drawing board, if you randed town. After all you forgot everything that I taught you in the Dracula game. If you are scum indeed, please continue just like that. I'd enjoy an easy win for a change of pace.
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Lan seems quite angry at my decisions on who I suspected. Most likely because I didn't investigate most of the people on that list. So feeling like I'm throwing the game for town they decide to vote me. Thinking: Red would never throw the game this hard as town, because they always were more analytical as town, the last time I played with them. Or something like that.
Now when its phrased like that, Lan looks town.
But when phrased like this:
Seeing that Red is clearly showing signs of disinterest in the game, because they aren't even trying to investigate the people they suspected, they would be an easy lynch target for the day. Thus vote for her and look disappointed, that way you can come off as disappointed town.
The problem with my second statement, I think, is that if they really saw me as useless town or easy target then they wouldn't prioritize taking me out over other more towns. Right? Like they could use me cause "I dont care" to remove other towns, no?
Now when its phrased like that, Lan looks town.
But when phrased like this:
Seeing that Red is clearly showing signs of disinterest in the game, because they aren't even trying to investigate the people they suspected, they would be an easy lynch target for the day. Thus vote for her and look disappointed, that way you can come off as disappointed town.
The problem with my second statement, I think, is that if they really saw me as useless town or easy target then they wouldn't prioritize taking me out over other more towns. Right? Like they could use me cause "I dont care" to remove other towns, no?
...Okay, I will treat this as a serious question.
Red, your whole game so far has felt so painfully shallow to me that it hurts, especially since I vividly remember being Lovers with you. In the Dracula game you pushed people to gauge them for reactions, tried to involve others into your reads, used your pushes to evaluate and to re-evaluate and get us information that we later used to think about the players together and formulate a plan/a Mafia team which turned out to be mostly correct by the time the Serial Killer offed us. Once you had found something that you were interested in you didn't let it out of your sight anymore until you got it.
In this game...you have been vote-parking on me off of one post. You have not showed any evaluation of anything I have done so far afterwards. You have evaded several attempts of mine to interact with you on a meaningful basis, claiming that "I was scum that can fool you" as a reason. Ignoring your vote on me I have not seen you even interact much with all the people you are suddenly suspecting, much less ask others about their opinions of them or do anything, at all, with your reads. It feels to me that you are either 1) not actually interested in finding out whether your theories or not are right or wrong or 2) that you are so absolutely positively sure that you cannot be wrong, ever, that you feel no need to go deeper into anything than what you did so far. After all, if you think of yourself as infallible, why bother spending time proof-checking your theories?
The absolute highlight of your whole game so far is this: Lan : just cause, Poison : just cause.
. These are two reads without explanation, without re-evaluation (which can ALSO mean that my posts made you believe MORE in me being scum, but I cannot even see THAT!, and in case of Poison I don't have the faintest clue how you ever arrived at that read and why it is so self-apparent) and without any emotion of giving anybody, anyone, anything to talk about. This is my read - take it or leave it, I will not discuss it. And you didn't do it once - you did it twice. In one post. It's... shallow.
As much as I still, after ALL of that, hope that you are town after all - I cannot just watch you play like that from the sidelines. This is not how to play Mafia as town, I have seen you play leagues better in the past and I can't just let you keep doing what you are doing.
Red, yesterday I spent a LOT of posts trying to engage with you, trying to find you town, trying to make you find me town. You cannot seriously believe, after all of that, that my intention is to just speedlynch you for "being desinterested". I have said many, many, many times that I do not want to vote you and that I'd absolutely loathe being wrong on you, but even I have a limit.
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I'm going to focus on these two main points form your argument.
1) Well to be frank, I haven't made many if any theories on people. The only theory I have made so far was that you were scum. Literally everything else: was just gut placement. And my theory on you was being experimented on thought this game. The basic vote on you, the lack of investigation on you specifically. All of that, as stupid as it sounds, was mainly to see your reactions to my play style. What I got:
this. Which when analyzed gets me town lean. This is my theory analysis, just done a little differently for someone that knows me quite well.
2) well, my answer to your first one sorta disproves your second point. I don't believe I can never be wrong. I actually do proof check my theories.
Here's the thing. Trying to give me the benefit of the doubt only wastes your time on me. There are other players, and if you shouldn't be trying to find me as town. If I'm town you will see that trough my play. If not, go ahead and vote on me (like you already did). What I'm trying to go at here is I hold no personal bias for what you can and cannot do, you should hold the same. Thus is why a speed lynch idea is viable if to me.
I hate wall posts lol.
Also sorry for drifting off, but after that emotional outburst I needed a bit of time to cool off and get at least slightly level-headed again.
I... read your answer. I will keep monitoring your game, since it is indeed one that I am more familiar with, I will think about how you continue playing from here on out and see if it matches what you said earlier in that long post, and hopefully it will and we can solve the game together.
I... read your answer. I will keep monitoring your game, since it is indeed one that I am more familiar with, I will think about how you continue playing from here on out and see if it matches what you said earlier in that long post, and hopefully it will and we can solve the game together.
Okay, a question for you, Red, since everybody else seems to be absent at this time for one reason or another: How familiar are you with the way Ansatsuken is playing normally? I am having some flashbacks to some games in the past which worry me but I want to evaluate him properly.
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