[KG] Sharingan/Rinnegan - Delta

[The Pervy Sage]

Ight chief, link me your previous training and lets get this ball rolling

 

[Delta]

https://animebase.me/threads/learning-ems-properly.766894/

Thanks undertaker

 

[The Pervy Sage]

https://animebase.me/threads/learning-ems-properly.766894/

Thanks undertaker

Does having EMS increase my ability to predict an elemental nature? And if so, to what degree?, some examples would be great.
What would be a max range for me to see chakra with EMS active? I ask more so for the use of Perfect Susanoo, would i still be able to see chakra pooling at the feet of PS while im in its forehead, and other such distances?
Can the EMS see Larger chakra signatures through smaller ones? Examples would be, if someone used a D rank earth wall, and behind that an S rank Water jutsu(i know thats a bad combo and not real but its an example) Would i be able to see the Larger chakra build up behind the Earth wall?

You can track more, so your preception is increased. The easiest way to explain this would be you see stuff in even slower motion right? Predicting a nature comes down to what you see before hand, motions, handsigns etc. Going off this, it would follow the same principles as any other version of sharingan, you'd just see it in even slowly motion increasing your reaction time. So if a jutsu has no handseals, you haven't seen it before etc, it's going to be a bit harder, but, look at how kakashi played Zabuza. he saw his water dragon jutsu and movements first, memories them, predicted them, and replicated them to **** with him. To the point he was doing it before zabuza too, due to perception, but due to tf rules, that would be a bit too extreme.

The range of your eye sight never increases. With sharingan it's like you have 20x20 vision, but see shit with even more clarity and detail and pretty much in slow motion. What it comes down to in your perfect susanoo is generally where you are looking and your preferential vision. If you're looking down towards someone smaller than you while in the head of PS, you'll see it out of the corner of your eye, and so you'd be fine. You'd see the chakra, and detail all around you. Clearly demonstrated through Madara blitzing the shinobi alliance, but that would of come down to his battle experience too. One thing to note would be he didn't see gaara's sand from below in the imperfect from due to not looking. You can't see further, that's byakugan only.

Sharingan can't see through chakra, It's only Byakugan that can see through. Sharingan has never been able to, so D rank earth wall with chakra in it, you wouldn't be able to see through.

Hope this helps bud

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With that out the way, we can continue from here: https://animebase.me/threads/3t-sharingan-with-sasori.765080/

This is apart of the second technique, im assuming this jutsu can only be used on Canon techniques? And if so, wouldnt that mean my Bio has, theoretically already seen all the jutsu my opponent can possibly use canonically? Also, if my opponent has a jutsu that boosts the chakra consumption of a canon jutsu, will that throw off my ability to copy it?

1. You can copy any technique as long as it follows the exact rules within the jutsu itself. Can be custom as long as it's not a kg etc. As long as you've seen it before and you can only use it once. If i made a carbon dragon, you can't copy. If i made a custom earth dragon, as long as you've seen it and memorised it etc, you can use it.

2, We don't go on shit like that in the rp, it's like we are taking the series and building our new story really. Becomes a bit meta if you say this one time in the series my bio saw this or already knows this. I mean in some cases you could go full rp flashback, if you are madara and facing hashirama and you remember a jutsu, it could be used to your advantage, but to copy it you'd really need to see it in that rp or fight. I mean you're skinning your madara anyway so that's out the window anyway xD

3. You can copy the original technique, not the boosted one. For example, fighting tobirama, who passively boosts all water. He uses a water dragon. You can copy that water dragon, no problem, but it won't be boosted. You copy the original technique

 

[Delta]

No questions fam, works for me

 

[The Pervy Sage]

No questions fam, works for me

Alright moving on, break these down:

( Bōshi Magen: Kyouten Chiten ) - Demonic Eye Illusion: Heaven And Earth Change
Type: Supplementary
Rank: C-S
Range: Short - Long
Chakra Cost: N/A (equal to the cost of the countered technique)
Damage Points: N/A (equal to the power of the countered technique)
Description: This is a illusion counter where, through the use of their sharingan, a Uchiha can take control over an enemy's Genjutsu and reverse it back into the opponent by taking control of it and releasing oneself at the same time. With 1 Tomoe, it can affect C-Rank and below illusions. With 2 Tomoe, it can affect B-Rank and below illusions. With a 3 Tomoe, it can affect A-Rank and below illusions. With MS, it can affect S-Rank and below illusions and EMS can affect any rank Genjutsu. Note: Can only be used once every two turns.
Note: Does not require eye contact and must be able to cast ( I.e., cannot reverse a Sound Genjutsu without Sound Ninjutsu.

( Doujutsu: Chouetsu no Shunmin ) – Eye Technique: Transcend to Deep Slumber technique
Type: Supplementary
Rank: C
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user will use their Sharingan to cast an illusion upon the opponent by looking them into their eyes; this illusion makes the enemy fall asleep but makes them think they are still watching the opponent without realizing they have fallen asleep.
Note: Requires direct eye contact with 2 Tomoe Sharingan and up.

( Doujutsu: Shiranui ) - Eye Technique: Phosphorescent light
Type: Offensive/Supplementary
Rank: C
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description: The user will cast an illusion to make the opponent see six copies of the user that detonate simultaneously harming the target.The explosions are explosive kunai to deal damage whilst the enemy is distracted in the genjutsu.
Note: Requires 2 Tomoe sharingan and up.

 

[Delta]

Firstly it seems like a very simple jutsu, you take a visualk genjutsu being used against you, and place it back on the opponent. Its pretty simple, you recognize you're in a gen, and reverse it back to them, my only question is, is it the same illusion, and can i add any extra parts to it?

Pretty simple, puts the enemy to sleep, no handseals, so quite easy, but requires eye contact, losing alot of the strength.

Pretty simple, lock them in a genjutsu, throw a ton of kunai, the opponent thinks its clones, really its kunai, leaves them having to counter both the gen and the kunai

 

[The Pervy Sage]

Firstly it seems like a very simple jutsu, you take a visualk genjutsu being used against you, and place it back on the opponent. Its pretty simple, you recognize you're in a gen, and reverse it back to them, my only question is, is it the same illusion, and can i add any extra parts to it?

Pretty simple, puts the enemy to sleep, no handseals, so quite easy, but requires eye contact, losing alot of the strength.

Pretty simple, lock them in a genjutsu, throw a ton of kunai, the opponent thinks its clones, really its kunai, leaves them having to counter both the gen and the kunai

You're simply putting their illusion back on them, while releasing yourself, nothing more. Unless you used a layering method or had another way to alter it.

Best part is, they think they are still awake haha

It's simple, can be effective, aint great.

( Doujutsu: Genjutsu Sharingan ) - Eye Technique: Copy Wheel Eye Illusion
Type: Supplementary
Rank: C - S
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 15 - 40
Damage points: N/A
Description: This technique is simply the use of generic genjutsu used by members of the Uchiha clan. By simply having their opponents look into their eyes, the Uchiha can lock the user within a genjutsu of their choosing.
Note: Can only be used with 3 tomoe sharingan

 

[Delta]

This is a good one, if you can trap them, the worlds your oyster, only issue is, the moment they see your eyes, they look away, so you probably only get 1 shot at this, at best

 

[The Pervy Sage]

This is a good one, if you can trap them, the worlds your oyster, only issue is, the moment they see your eyes, they look away, so you probably only get 1 shot at this, at best

Remember you can't bend stuff like time with this, it aint Tsukiyomi xd
Hella useful as long as you understand gen well.

( Bōshi Magen: Nenshou Kamihada ) Demonic Eye Illusion: Burning Paper Body
Type: Supplementary
Rank: B
Range: Short - Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage: N/A
Description: The user casts a Genjutsu that makes the opponent believe that their body is made of paper and is burning, reducing their dexterity of movement, stopping them from performing handseals.
Note: Requires three tomoe Sharingan and eye contact

( Bōshi Genjutsu: Koukon Karasu ) – Illusionary Eye Technique: Dusk Crow
Type: Supplementary
Rank: B
Range: Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Description: This is an advanced Sharingan technique the user traps the enemy in an illusion without any eye contact, similar to Ephermal. The Genjutsu traps the victim in a torrent of crows, leaving them at the users mercy.

( Bōshi Magen: Ketataumo ) Demonic Eye Illusion: Piercing Feathers
Type: Supplementary
Rank: B
Range: Short - Long
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage: N/A
Description: A weaker version of Demonic Illusion: Shackling Stakes, it makes the opponent believe that numerous black feathers have pierced their body and trapped them, causing them pain and immobility.
Note: Requires two tomoe Sharingan and eye contact to use

 

[Delta]

Simple illusion, messes with their perception, but again, requires eye contact, so not good imo

This is good, no eye contact, its fast, it also gives you a chance to reposition while they cant see you. Would be good to layer this genjutsu if you can imo

Pretty simple, its a lock down gen, not really useful tbh, too low a rank

 

[The Pervy Sage]

Simple illusion, messes with their perception, but again, requires eye contact, so not good imo

This is good, no eye contact, its fast, it also gives you a chance to reposition while they cant see you. Would be good to layer this genjutsu if you can imo

Pretty simple, its a lock down gen, not really useful tbh, too low a rank

I mean, imagine using this one on konan xD "Ha your body is made of paper"..."lolwut". No handseals means no kai, So if you could layer or boost this... just saiyan.

Distraction no jutsu at it's finest

Final one is a bit trash but it had it's place in the anime i guess xd

( Bōshi Genjutsu: Utakata ) - Illusion Eye Technique: Ephemeral
Type: Supplementary
Rank: B
Range:Short - Mid
Chakra Cost: 20
Damage Points: 40
Description: An illusion where the user simply points at the target and if the target glances at the pointing hand, they fall into a genjutsu where they first see birds that soon after turn into kunai that attack them.They are further damaged by being tortured by images of their friends insulting them.
Note: Requires 3 Tomoe Sharingan.

( Doujutsu: Chuubo no Yuuku ) – Eye Technique: Paralyzing Fear
Type: Supplementary
Rank: B
Range: Short – Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user will cast a Genjutsu upon the target in which they will see a shadowy figure appear in front of them bearing the Sharingan and then, the figure will grow to an enormous size over shadowing the target in pitch-black darkness. The figure will then grab hold of the target and then will cover them in black threads, leaving them paralyzed for a period of time.
Note: Must have 3 Tomoe Sharingan to use and paralyzing effects last 1 turn.

( Doujutsu: Hazumi no Reikon ) - Eye Technique: Bound by Soul Technique
Type: Supplementary
Rank: B
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user will cast a genjutsu that immobilizes the target. In the genjutsu, the target is bound to a leaf spinning around in the dark. This technique temporarily binds the target leaving them open to attack.
Note: Must have 3 Tomoe Sharingan and binding lasts 1 turn.

 

[Delta]

Simple jutsu, gives distraction with the taunting friends, and not only do they need to break the gen, but dodge the kunai. Can even make it an exploding kunai, for extra damage. Also easy as to set up with just a finger point.

Paralyses so no Kai, no eye contact, no handseals, pretty good if you in a pinch

Same as above really

 

[The Pervy Sage]

Simple jutsu, gives distraction with the taunting friends, and not only do they need to break the gen, but dodge the kunai. Can even make it an exploding kunai, for extra damage. Also easy as to set up with just a finger point.

Paralyses so no Kai, no eye contact, no handseals, pretty good if you in a pinch

Same as above really

True that, but when people be like "i don't have friends, who these people insulting me? Must be gen" lmao

Pretty simple, but do you require eye contact for this one?

Pretty much, does this require eye contact?

 

[Delta]

No, neither of them require eye contact, thats the only reason they viable

 

[The Pervy Sage]

No, neither of them require eye contact, thats the only reason they viable

Glad tou understand, has to state they need eye contact for it to do so.

( Dōjutsu: Jigokuken ) - Eye Technique: Sword Hell
Type: Supplementary
Rank: B
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 20
Damage points: N/A
Descrption: The user casts the illusion upon the opponent where the surroundings, similar to Tsukiyomi, go black and white and swords then begin levitating around the user and the opponent spinning around. The user then manipulates the swords to pierce the opponent's body. The initial attack causes mental damage and temporarily paralyzes the opponents body restricting their overall performance, preventing movement for one turn.
Note: Can only be used with 3 Tomoe Sharingan.
(Bōshi Magen: Kasegui no Jutsu) - Demonic Eye Illusion :Shackling Stakes
Rank: A
Type:Supplementary
Range: Close
Chakra Cost:30
Damage Points: N/A
Description:A Genjutsu technique unique to the Uchiha bloodline Sharingan holders. After activating their Sharingan, the clan member will look into the eyes of their target to bind them with a paralyzing illusion. This illusion takes the form of giant spikes which stake them in place and restrict their movement. A powerful enough ninja will be able to fight the bind to give themselves an opportunity to gain freedom.
Note: Requires Tomo 3 sharingan.

Last two for 3t, then we will go into the MS/EMS jutsu

 

[Delta]

No eye contact for the first. Pretty simple, would be really good if you could combo it with an actual kenjutsu technique. Forcing your opponent to stray away from the normal counters.

This the technique itachi used on orochimaru. Isnt that good, aside from the fact its a "paralysing technique" unlike the others, its not full paralyses, so as orochimaru demonstrated, your opponent can still use kai, albeit very slowly. Also requires eye contact, nty

 

[The Pervy Sage]

No eye contact for the first. Pretty simple, would be really good if you could combo it with an actual kenjutsu technique. Forcing your opponent to stray away from the normal counters.

This the technique itachi used on orochimaru. Isnt that good, aside from the fact its a "paralysing technique" unlike the others, its not full paralyses, so as orochimaru demonstrated, your opponent can still use kai, albeit very slowly. Also requires eye contact, nty

Alrighty then, we are all done with 3t sharingan gen. Next would be MS, but you madara so we jumping straight to ems:

( Doujutsu: Eien no Mangekyou Sharingan ) - Eye Technique: Eternal Kaleidoscope Copy Wheel Eye
Type: Supplementary
Rank: Forbidden
Range: Short-Long
Chakra: 70 ( -20 per turn to keep active )
Damage: N/A
Description: The Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan literally meaning " Eternal Kaleidoscope Copy Wheel Eye", is the final step in the evolutionary state of the Sharingan. While Mangekyo Sharingan is but an imperfect Dojutsu, unable to sustain and keep its own power, weakening with each use, the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan brings control and balance to the power wielded. By merging the users own MS with that of his sibling, the use is able to awaken the EMS. The EMS grants the user the same abilities granted by MS but to unsurpassed levels. While granting the user the ability to perceive the world with increadible insight, it also grants the user the ability to see through S-Rank visual illusions and track the movement speed of almost anything, perfecting the already amazing abilities of the standard MS, like casting Genjutsu without the need for handseals as long as a line of sight to the target is available. A unique feat however, is that once the user awakens EMS, he loses access to his normal MS, transitioning from 3T form to EMS directly. While MS damages the user as time passes and severely tires and drains the user as its used, the EMS doesn't. The user can keep it active without losing his eyesight or damaging himself and can use the normal MS techniques with no activation reduction or drawbacks. Its true that the chakra cost is higher, but the user will feel little to no effect in his stamina and energy. Through his EMS, Madara gained the ability to control Tailed Beasts by forcefully using his sharingan genjutsu/mind manipulation abilities to take control of the Bijuu and temporarily sever its connection to the host. If the Jinchuriki is in normal form or entering one of the transformations, it's blocked from transforming for 3 turns. If it's in incomplete form, it's forced back into normal form and left unable to access his bijuu for 3 turns and if its in complete form, the user gains control over the bijuu, manipulating its movements/actions completely for 2 turns or until the complete form ends (whatever comes first), leaving the host unable to acess his bijuu for 3 turns.
Note: Only usable by bios with EMS after meeting the necessary requirements.
Note: User needs to have activated his 3T Sharingan beforehand
Note: Once activated, lasts 10 turns per use and once the user has held the ability for 4 months, can be done passively, with no move cost.
Note: Using MS techniques don't reduce the activation time.
Note: Controlling a Bijuu is an exclusive ability of Madara Uchiha and can only be done once per battle. Once the control ends, the EMS reverts back to a 3T Sharingan. If the control is done on a complete form Jinchuriki, then the user can't do any other technique while controlling the enemy.
Note: To avoid direct Eye Contact and be able to focus only on the body movement below the chin, the opponent needs to have mastered Taijutsu to possess the necessary skill.
Note: Predicting the nature of a technique or what it exactly is requires the user to either know the technique or that its a cannon technique.
Note: While active, as long as a clear line of sight and the range is respected, the user can cast normal non-Doujutsu Genjutsu without the need for handseals. However, Doujutsu illusions still require eye contact (if feasible) or their own requirements; this ability only affects regular Genjutsu.

 

[Delta]

Ive no questions about Madara's specific EMS, its very straight forward, and my other EMS questions where answered above

 

[The Pervy Sage]

Ive no questions about Madara's specific EMS, its very straight forward, and my other EMS questions where answered above

Can you quickly break down what EMS can do for me, perception, tracking, predicting natures, casting gen etc, so i know for a fact you can use it right before we go onto the big guns

 

[Delta]

Perception wise, EMS can essentially bring time down to a crawl, as long as my Bio has the necessary tracking level, you can essentially see the whole world in hyper slow motion, able to see even the most minute details of a technique. To the opponent, the jutsu may hit in a second, but to the EMS, you would see the jutsu take a full minute to get to you, as an example. You're also able to spot the smallest inconsistency in jutsu and genjutsu, allowing you to spot essentially everything.

Tracking Wise, i explained most of it above, but you can also predict how your opponent will follow through with their strike, watching their muscles and chakra control, pinpointing where they will finish their strike, or even how they will begin it, in super slow motion.

Predicting natures has always been the thing Sharingan i never fully understood. From my knowledge, Sharingan perceives natures not as they are, but how the chakra behaves, so, Lightning will be fast moving, water will be fluid, fire aggressive, ect ect, with the EMS, due to the huge perception and tracking boost, watching my opponents chakra flare up also comes down to a crawl, allowing me to essentially watch the technique grow inside them, from raw chakra, into whatever nature it will turn into, i believe. But as said, user has to have seen it or know it to predict the actual jutsu, but i can predict what nature a jutsu will be and counter properly.

Genjutsu, EMS can cast any genjutsu just by seeing the opponent, and uses the Sharingan as a medium for handseals, essentially glaring your chakra into them, locking them in genjutsu. EMS is also able to see through Any ranked Visual Genjutsu, being the pinnacle before Rinnegan which just makes you completely unable to be put into a visual genjutsu in the first place.