I mean, in order for you and me to even be spitting facts... we need to know the facts. Which I aint tryna research all that, I just ended up reading the article fully. Obviously, there is a difference between men and women. The article said trasngendered women. I don't know the process they go through with hormones, but they go through something that makes them less masculine and whatnot. And they have to go through that process for two years straight before being allowed to perform in these competitions. If the law and research says that, that is what it takes for them to be physically equal with woman, then maybe it is. And maybe it isn't. I wouldn't know for sure unless I researched it myself. ( I mean we're super medically advanced, what makes one think that turning a male into an equal woman is impossible? Compared to other medical achievements, that seems plausible) Like, the saying "Don't judge a book by it's cover" is so massively used because it is genuinely applied to a lot of things. You want me to trust my eye? I literally have like 5/20 vision anyway, but, looking at an image and assuming things is how rumours, phobias and assumptions are started. You cannot see what is inside a person... their hormones, altercations, illnesses, etc, by a picture. Let a an ill person put in make up and post it on social media and say "wow they're not sick, they look just fine." I hope no one feels like I am being bossy or rude or anything like that.I have no intentions or feelings of that, I am just seeing things from both sides. Idk, tbh, I love debating. Thanks for debating with me. It's hard for me to keep seeing new posts (not u)repeating the things when they haven't even read the article to understand the logistics and situation behind it, so I think I'm out.
Yasss, Queen. Slay.
WTH I did not ask for opinions on the article, just replied to OP. You are choosing to drag me in to your personal crusade in here.
So what if the trans gendered guy lost to same woman previously. I bet many normal men will lose to her too if they do not have enough practice. Many trained women will beat up men in male sports as long as men they faced didn't know proper technique and training or were caught by surprise. But give similar training and after a point male body physique will give them natural advantage.This kind of arguments should be saved for twitter. They work in coffee klatch where people are not thinking it through, just supporting a sister for likes.
Exactly.
WTH I did not ask for opinions on the article, just replied to OP. You are choosing to drag me in to your personal crusade in here.
Mb, thought you were the OP this entire time cause you were the first post
I don't agree with this and this makes no sense to me, haha. No disrespect to the male, but you can tell he is feminine acting and gay. Also, it's in the article that the law was changed so that men don't need to have full body change. It use to be like that but they changed it, and probably for good reason, because that is a VERY hard process to go through and not even trasngendered or gay person wants to. Many don't. I just wonder why people assume the worst in people and think "he is doing this to win because it's easier" like what? He is just a trasngender who wants to participate in this sport and because he is trans, they grouped him with females. The problem arises with the fact that he is possibly more fit than her. NOT that he is doing this just to win because it's "easier" against females. Why do people assume the worst in others, lol?
What does even mean "feminine acting and gay" and how any of it is relevant and logical reply to my post? If I act like a tomboy,do i qualify to be put among biological men's group? What is this? Year 1478 AD?
Shouldn't the women that were in the same competition be the first ones to be annoyed and let their voice be heard against this? What would you do to the trans in this case? Forbid him from participating? Isn't sport also about inclusion?
One of them did. She got flamed on Twitter and was forced to apologised to the trans on twitter. She also added a post that next time she was not "folding", but would keep her views away from social media from then on. People need to be civil and courteous. They shouldn't be however bullied in silences. Why personal belief of certain people should be imposing on rest of them?
I was replying to Michelle's post about that one. They said they think that they're gender playing just for a win, in which I perceived as he was just participating in the women's team just to win and not because he is genuinely transgender. So I was telling them that the way he speaks, writes and presents himself, it is clear he is not pretending. And yeah, honestly, in some cases, females have wanted to be on male teams just because they didn't want that segregation and because of the sport availability. There have been many cases here in the U.S of girls protesting to be on the male sport teams. There is even a movie created off a real life case "The Longshots" where the girl wants to be on the male football team.
Girl wanting to be on the male football team is her putting herself at a disadvantage not others. They usually only try when there is no female team playing or is not good enough for their level. And they can make it to any event in a male team, only if they can not only keep up but perform better.
What was the content of her tweet? There are ways to say things.
No, that is why there are categories defined for the paralympics for example. I come from a school were deaf and even kids that were physically challenged would play football with us. Damn, i even won a school tournament with a kid called João that had major motor problems and he played as a striker. I saw him score the penalty that gave us the final victory. Freaking poetic and yes, sports are about inclusion, i lived that inclusion myself and was educated with it in my mind and in my heart.
The fact that she's lost before just displays that this "advantage" is irrelevant.
So basically people just got butthurt she won this time? Sounds like human kind to me.
No, it doesn't at all. She's still competing at that level thanks to her advantage. Losing doesn't imply the advantage isn't there. Just in her case, the advantage isn't enough to completely dominate the sport.
Why isn't this the first time we've heard about something like this from a population of 1954200 people? Jeez, I wonder fucking why.
Bruh, just because a handful of female cyclists can beat her doesn't mean the advantage is not there.
This is exactly how I see things, too. The women had not posted any issues on this transgender competitor until they had won (that I know of). When he/she won once against her, it is sudden unfair. Though, prior to that, that woman had beaten him/her in 11/12 races. Like what? Where was your issue then? Winning once is not enough to deem something unfair or unbalanced. It just tastes like salt to me :/. As a woman though, I understand the emotion and thought process behind her thoughts, but I am very acceptant I guess.
