Is Madara really more talented than Itachi

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Madara was able to use Susano on his Mokuton clones, that is something no Uchiha has ever done. Madara was skillful enough to handle Hashirama Sage Mode and become the Juubi Jin without any problem.

Itachi knee the location and existance of Sage Mode, yet didn’t try to learn it.

Madara has perfect Susano, while Itachi doesn’t have that level of Susano.
 

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Yes Madara was killing adult senju even as a kid, had massive chakra reserves, can absorb chakra and nullify Ama(via absorbtion). That's ignoring his talent and prowess as a whole. Orochimaru considered Madara the pinacle for Sasuke to pass not Itachi even though he solod him twice.
 
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Kabuto said something like "Your unlike other Uchiha, you (Itachi) have true ocular powers, you can see through people's psychology and use that against them in fights."

He also defeated 3 adult Uchiha, when he was in base as a child, in an instant.
 

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Lmfao Madara singlehandedly discovered all of the secrets to the sharingan himself. And to solidify this, both he and his brother were the first two to ever awake the Mangekyou sharingan. Madara was naturally skilled and was slaughtering skilled Adult Senju fighters prior to even awakening his sharingan. To add to that, Madara was coveted and was made the leader of the Uchiha clan while Itachi was simply admired for skill. Madara was known as the 2nd strongest person on the planet due to his raw prowess, while Itachi wasn’t even regarded in nearly the same respect.

Lmfao threads like these are stupid as ****.
 

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Lmfao Madara singlehandedly discovered all of the secrets to the sharingan himself. And to solidify this, both he and his brother were the first two to ever awake the Mangekyou sharingan. Madara was naturally skilled and was slaughtering skilled Adult Senju fighters prior to even awakening his sharingan. To add to that, Madara was coveted and was made the leader of the Uchiha clan while Itachi was simply admired for skill. Madara was known as the 2nd strongest person on the planet due to his raw prowess, while Itachi wasn’t even regarded in nearly the same respect.

Lmfao threads like these are stupid as ****.

And how does discovering the EMS, by himself make Madara more talented? Madara was born way before Itachi, so of course he had the opportunity to gain MS before him. Madara never said that he killed Adult Senju, without the sharingan.
 
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And how does discovering the EMS, by himself make Madara more talented? Madara was born way before Itachi, so of course he had the opportunity to gain MS before him. Madara never said that he killed Adult Senju, without the sharingan.

You make yourself look like an idiot every time you address me, when will you learn?

-Pretty sure “all secrets to the sharingan” encompasses far more than just the EMS, which also is a huge achievement within itself.
-Hashirama’s father was the one that stated that kid Madara was massacring skilled adult Senju, and was shocked to find out that Madara hadn’t even awoken his sharingan yet.
 

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You make yourself look like an idiot every time you address me, when will you learn?

-Pretty sure “all secrets to the sharingan” encompasses far more than just the EMS, which also is a huge achievement within itself.
-Hashirama’s father was the one that stated that kid Madara was massacring skilled adult Senju, and was shocked to find out that Madara hadn’t even awoken his sharingan yet.

- When was it said in the manga that Madara discovered all secrets of the sharingan?

- Madara said he had a sharingan before, Hashi's father said that. :lmao:
 

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- When was it said in the manga that Madara discovered all secrets of the sharingan?

- Madara said he had a sharingan before, his father said that. :lmao:

-When was it said that he didn’t? :sdo:

-Lmfao piss poor fanfic, nothing of the sort was said at that juncture. I do implore you to provide manga scans of it though. :lmao:
 

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-When was it said that he didn’t? :sdo:

-Lmfao piss poor fanfic, nothing of the sort was said at that juncture. I do implore you to provide manga scans of it though. :lmao:

- So that's your argument? :lmao: That's really bad.

- I'm not posting scans, look it up yourself.
 

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- So that's your argument? :lmao: That's really bad.

- I'm not posting scans, look it up yourself.

-So that’s your argument? :lmao: Concessiom accepted.

-Lmfao another L, consecutive concessions. New record. :Sparks: :lmao:
 

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Madara > Itachi.

They grew up in incredibly different times. Madara grew up in a time where children were at war. Itachi grew up in a relatively more quiet period. They were both talented but I think Madara's era forced him to have to learn quicker and figure things out on his own. Even if Itachi and Madara had grown up in the same time period I still think Madara would have outgrown Itachi out of ambition alone not to mention the innate talent and understanding he already had.
 

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Madara > Itachi.

They grew up in incredibly different times. Madara grew up in a time where children were at war. Itachi grew up in a relatively more quiet period. They were both talented but I think Madara's era forced him to have to learn quicker and figure things out on his own. Even if Itachi and Madara had grown up in the same time period I still think Madara would have outgrown Itachi out of ambition alone not to mention the innate talent and understanding he already had.

What you said simply doesn't make sense. "Ambition" "innate talent" "understanding" "relatively more quiet period" and all those garbage buzz words you like to use....as if they got anything to do with who is more talented. Make a sane argument for once.
 
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The thing is....

Madara was nowhere NEAR as talented as Itachi... Madara had just raw strength and chakra reserves and of course the sharingan...


But itachi was way more talented and had more finesse... Itachi invented a genjutsu tech that is unbreakable by anybody without a sharingan, he created amaterasu, and he obtained the most powerful spirit items in the verse... yata & totsuka..

If madara were to face itachi in battle he would lose horribly
 

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Lmfao Madara singlehandedly discovered all of the secrets to the sharingan himself. And to solidify this, both he and his brother were the first two to ever awake the Mangekyou sharingan. Madara was naturally skilled and was slaughtering skilled Adult Senju fighters prior to even awakening his sharingan. To add to that, Madara was coveted and was made the leader of the Uchiha clan while Itachi was simply admired for skill. Madara was known as the 2nd strongest person on the planet due to his raw prowess, while Itachi wasn’t even regarded in nearly the same respect.

Lmfao threads like these are stupid as ****.

Wasn't It said Madara discovery of the Uchiha secrets due to the Uchiha tablet and Black Zestu?
 

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The thing is....

Madara was nowhere NEAR as talented as Itachi... Madara had just raw strength and chakra reserves and of course the sharingan...


But itachi was way more talented and had more finesse... Itachi invented a genjutsu tech that is unbreakable by anybody without a sharingan, he created amaterasu, and he obtained the most powerful spirit items in the verse... yata & totsuka..

If madara were to face itachi in battle he would lose horribly

Are you actually under the impression that Itachi created Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu or did you just poorly word the sentence?
 

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Wasn't It said Madara discovery of the Uchiha secrets due to the Uchiha tablet and Black Zestu?

Yes and no, the tablet isn’t able to be completely deciphered until one manifests the Rinnegan. With the MS and EMS, Madara could only make an assumption as to what it meant and even then, it only spoke of ‘two opposing forces creating all things in the universe’ or something like that. Madara’s genius came into play because he obtained the Rinnegan with absolutely no help aside from a very cryptic and vague hint.
 

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Did Aids solo Itachi?

When did you become such a hater? Madara can be your favorite without attempting to shit on every one else.

On topic. The Uchiha are just plain talent.. it’s who they are.
Madara became show true skill at a young so he can live and survive war.
Itachi was the same, but his skill was shown trying to protect the leaf.
Sasuke and Obito was shown after they had an agenda.
In a three year span Sasuke went from being a gennin level to being on Kakashi level all because of his goal.. the same as Obito
 
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