Is Madara really more talented than Itachi

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No he didn't, since he never finished the sentence. You're assuming things when everybody is confirming the actual awakening. You humoured nothing, you just realised how flawed your argument was to bwgin with as it doesn't make sense or address all the issues that arise.

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Even Hashirama confirms he understood what it means to awaken the Sharingan. That entire page was a moment of emphasis on the sharingan awakening and the required state.

Take it or leave it I don't really care unless uou address the issues I raised.
Lol just like itachis aids? Assumption right? Itachi was a ***** for murder so maybe he did get aids from all the blood he spilled...
 

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No he didn't, since he never finished the sentence. You're assuming things when everybody is confirming the actual awakening. You humoured nothing, you just realised how flawed your argument was to bwgin with as it doesn't make sense or address all the issues that arise.

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Even Hashirama confirms he understood what it means to awaken the Sharingan. That entire page was a moment of emphasis on the sharingan awakening and the required state.

Take it or leave it I don't really care unless uou address the issues I raised.
You said Madara was admitting that was an Uchiha, yet he said nothing to indicate that. He was bragging about his eyes and said for I have a Sha-, while he himself is an Uchiha. There is no other eye related technique in the manga other than the sharingan that starts with Sha-. Hey if you want act like you don't know he had the sharingan fine, but the manga indicated it.
 
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Lol just like itachis aids? Assumption right? Itachi was a ***** for murder so maybe he did get aids from all the blood he spilled...
What assumptions? Itachi's aids and whoring is confirmed, the fact that he killed his own clansmen for the oppressors like the good lapdog he is speaks volumes. Btw nobody in the Uchiha clan was a ***** save him so none of them had the aids to pass on.

Onto more serious matters, of the known Uchiha he is the 3rd most talented Shinobi Madara, Obito(dojutsu prowess) and Itachi. He was naturally gifted pre Sharingan + went onto reach peaks post Sharingan. Also he's the obly one save excluding Sarada who's shown an innate ability to learn jitsu of the first attempt. Sasuke would make the list but he was more of a grafter/hardworker(before handouts) perhaps because he didn't have an uchiha to train him. Sarada is also up there similar to Itachi for her effective ability to take maximum advantage of the Sharingan.
 
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Multiple Uchiha have has the MS and EMS before and after itachi, yet he is still the only ninja capable of tsokuyomi, and he is the first to use amaterasu, and only sasuke has been able to use it since...

yes itachis MS enabled him to use the techs, but he still created them
Lmfao alright then who created Kamui; Kakashi, Madara or Obito?
 

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Nah.
Madara just brute-forced everything because he could, so he never really showed any real examples of talent beyond jutsu usage, and pretty much every character with even a speck of importance can perform jutsu deemed nigh impossible or complex. Hinata's Lion Fists, Choji's Butterfly Mode, Ino's massive link, every Rasengan variant that Naruto makes, etc. Distinguishing clones too as said before, but still not very noteworthy in general considering that the amount of time it took to attain the ability was 3+ decades. Other talents being that he can recognize pretty much any jutsu and their purposes extremely easily.

Then there's Itachi who's a proven strategist that consistently thinks 3 steps ahead, but I think it's fair to say the guy shows no special talent jutsu-wise beyond genjutsu. Like Madara, Itachi is also able to quickly deduce the purpose of attacks but lacks as much jutsu knowledge in general.

Itachi's schtick still seems more talented to me considering pretty much everything Madara did in the manga though. We've all seen how Madara handles dealing with stronger opponents & the answer is very poorly. Madara had just climbed & climbed for more power rather than use actual strategies to get himself out of binds such as Itachi would.
 
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Lmfao alright then who created Kamui; Kakashi, Madara or Obito?
Dont answer this its a trick question because the ability derives from the users lineage or what i mean is every user has their own powers but can be passed down.. with or without being taught it. It is a art form only a certain class can do...

But i see what your trying to do...
 

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Nah.
Madara just brute-forced everything because he could, so he never really showed any real examples of talent beyond jutsu usage, and pretty much every character with even a speck of importance can perform jutsu deemed nigh impossible or complex. Hinata's Lion Fists, Choji's Butterfly Mode, Ino's massive link, every Rasengan variant that Naruto makes, etc. Distinguishing clones too as said before, but still not very noteworthy in general considering that the amount of time it took to attain the ability was 3+ decades. Other talents being that he can recognize pretty much any jutsu and their purposes extremely easily.

Then there's Itachi who's a proven strategist that consistently thinks 3 steps ahead, but I think it's fair to say the guy shows no special talent jutsu-wise beyond genjutsu. Like Madara, Itachi is also able to quickly deduce the purpose of attacks but lacks as much jutsu knowledge in general.

Itachi's schtick still seems more talented to me considering pretty much everything Madara did in the manga though. We've all seen how Madara handles dealing with stronger opponents & the answer is very poorly. Madara had just climbed & climbed for more power rather than use actual strategies to get himself out of binds such as Itachi would.
Naw madaras tai jutsu is probably second to gai , and he has so much more battle exp , that once he figures you out your done kinda like sasuke vs deidara... madara is the future sasuke and thats why he beat sasuke almost every battle...

Itachi tho is his own person and a fucken god at that...
 

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Naw madaras tai jutsu is probably second to gai , and he has so much more battle exp , that once he figures you out your done kinda like sasuke vs deidara... madara is the future sasuke and thats why he beat sasuke almost every battle...
Taijutsu skill is a very vague concept. I honestly attribute people's success with it to their speed, ocular, and & physical prowess more so than anything. Unless you want to argue why Kaguya's taijutsu, despite Kaguya being recognized as braindead, is so much superior to Naruto's own that she could fend off hundreds of him(she was using hands before ash boning). Another example being the fact that Madara only considers Gai the greatest taijutsu user after Gai unleashes the 8 Gates, which doesn't really require complex techniques(most of the attacks are series of single, simple kicks and shit) but does unleash more power(<--- power being the deciding factor that his taijustu is best).
 

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Edo and Hashiroids....
kabuto would wreck as well

Edo and Hashiroids and Hashirama still confirms Madara was yet to retain his full strength .Also last time I checked Hashi dna doesn't increase your speed , size of your fire release or make you more skilled.

Try again next time with something relevant to prove your point instead of making moron of yourself with posting irrelevant stuff.

Anyway Hashi dna is power he had to obtain not something he was given for free.
 
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