Does Sasuke still have 6 paths power.
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super michael
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Obito stated he can use Human Path, there is no denying that. Madara stops using Mokuton and Susano doesn’t mean he loses those powers.
Rikudou Tobi
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You didn't solo shit. I ignored you because you couldn't come up with an explanation on why Madara couldn't absorb lees cloak. Then you resorted to anime. :| Why would I waste my time with a guy who relies on anime?
I soloed the shit out of you so badly that you resorted to anime. The first time Madara used it you dismissed it and said it wasn't the same. Just because you're dense enough to believe it's gaikido doesn't mean any other literal person does. It's not gakido, it will not be gakido and it never was. That's final. I can give a shit less about your opinion.
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So much lies... I don't even know where to start it's not even funny. Either you're lying that much on purpose to make it look you didn't completely lose or you just forgot how that thread went.
1. I showed you that anime also animated preta's path barrier not susanoo, but the anime argument was like in the beginning and we argued about this for like 3-4 pages. I continued to solo you after regardless.
2. If you're talking about Lee's kyuubi cloak, I did explain it. Madara never had a chance to absorb it because Lee cut him and went through him. Meanwhile Bee was still making physical contact with Nagato allowing him to freely drain his chakra.
3.No, you "ignored" or more like ran away from the thread in the end after this post
Not after I supposedly couldn't explain Lee's cloak(discussing Lee's cloak was like in the middle) I solo'ed every of your poor excuses and in the end we were discussing preta's orb. You failed to find more excuses for my last post so you gave up I understand that.
You've got it wrong my boy, there's like 3 people on this base who believes that. Everyone else with a brain knows it's preta.
Rikudou Tobi
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I negged you that it wasn't even funny. I ended this argument when I showed you a scan of Madara emitting a susano'o barrier from his body covered in flames. You dismissed it so I did the same with your post.
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I countered this comment before and you dismissed it again. Bee's lariat has bisected human bodies while Lee's kick never did.
Gakido absorbs contact upon physical contact, which is why Nagato immediately absorbed V2 before his lariat was able to cut him. Madara failed to do this because his rinnegan powers only absorbs ninjutsus and not chakra from other people. Gakido can absorb both chakra from people and ninjutsus.
And another thing to is that Madara's rinnegan powers can only absorb ninjutsus from his left hand. Go back to all the chapters of rinnegan madara absorbing ninjutsu and you'll see that Madara can only do it with his left hand.
You couldn't even solo me if I held a gun to your head. I destroyed your pathetic excuse to the point that used anime as an excuse which is nonsense. Read what I said above. You had no counter for the Lee kick and gakido doesn't emit flames from his body like susano'o. That was literally flames coming from Madara's body and you ignored it.
So if you're gonna ignore my post and the pages I sent you, then I'll ignore yours. That simple.
And there's more than 10 people on here that knows madara doesn't have gakido. DB list Pain as the sole gakido user even Shurado and all the pain jutsus such as shinra tensei and bansho tenin is listed as nagato as the sole user.
And yet you have no explanation for that one either. So why will i bother with someone who picks the anime over the DB and the viz manga? Please.
Lies again...
I never dismissed it, instead i explained why it's not Susanoo
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). If it was susanoo, the barrier would be drawn in 1 solid structure.Lies again...
@bold 1 as I explained in that thread, Madara didn't react to Lee. He did not fail to absorb anything, he simply never had a chance because he didn't react to Lee.
@bold 2 indeed this is how Sasuke stole Naruto's chakra in vote 2
Lies again! You didn't "destroy" anything because there was no discussion between us yet back there. I showed a scan, you said it was susanoo, I showed an anime clip that there is preta's path orb instead of susanoo, you said something like this :
And only after then, we started to further discuss about it.
Funny because viz manga literally showed both Sasuke and Madara using preta, yet you ignore this and your denial makes you think it's susanoo that's sad.
Anyways that's a lot of lies you just spread today. I must say atleast the first time in that other thread you were somehow reasonable and after my last post you simply left since you couldn't admit you were wrong, I can understand that, there's a lot of people here like you which ego doesn't allow to admit they're wrong. But after today's posts when you show up completely twisting and lying about our old discussion only to fit it better for your beliefs was really a pathetic move and you lost all your respect atleast from me.
Actually it did, the dialogue isn't that hard to understand really. Kakashi theorizes, Gai adds to it, Obito confirms. Again, Kakashi never said that obito couldn't control the biju, only that it took so much chakra that he couldn't afford to waste it on the paths jutsus that are known and able to be countered.
You saying something < Manga fact. Manga fact = Pain jutsu are able to be countered, therefore it would be a waste of chakra for Obito to use it on them. No such statement was said about Kamui (also Obito could pretty much spam kamui while kakashi would tire shortly afterwards), please keep the fanfics to a minimum.
Yes it is, the only outer path (gedo) technique is Rinne Tensei, Chibaku falls into deva path as it was that path that used it against Naruto in the battle for konoha. Also, do provide scans that clearly state that it's not a path jutsu.
So basically you're overreaching to deny that he's the Sage of the "Six Paths" due to him being able to use "six paths" jutsu and that he choose to be the "six path" sage cause it sounded cool, like toad sage, or slug sage. Well, I guess a religion class is overdue here: The Six Paths represent the Samsara, the reincarnation wheel in Buddhism. Long story short, there are 6 planes of existence:
Deva = Plane of the gods
Ashura = Semigods, also where the jealous come to be.
Human = Desire, passion, hesitation
Animal = Stupidity and prejudice
Preta = Greed
Naraka = what you know as Hell. Rage.
So yeah, he didn't pick that name because it sounded cool, Kishimoto did that to represent each of the "six paths" and their derived jutsu. Class dismissed.
Madara didn't fail to absorb the cloak, it was because he couldn't react to lee speed. Also:
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Madara absorbing a kyubi cloak, debuking that half assed fanfic that madara cannot absorb chakra cloaks ... oh shoot, since only Gakido can absorb cloaks (false, but well, that's your logic) and Madara absorbed a cloak, you just conceded that he can use the paths. Thanks for trying though :lol should I even bother to reply to the rest? ... why not, I could use some more laughs.
Susano'o? lmao. I would ask for proof, but I don't want to read more fanfics. Oh, btw, this discussion was over a couple of lines above, when I shown you Madara absorbing a cloak when according to you only preta can do that. Thanks, better luck next time :lol
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You're ignore/dismissing what I'm saying againLies again...
I never dismissed it, instead i explained why it's not Susanoo
Here, I will even zoom it for you
In the left scan, there are lines inside the orb and they're indicating the jutsu is being sucked in(just like in the right scanYou must be registered for see images
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Madara not reacting to Lee is a LIE. Just a unreasonable speculation considering the fact that he has the rinnegan. Somehow Obito can react with his kamui but madara is too slow or senile to do so himself? Horrible excuse and desperate.
Sasuke never absorbed naruto's jutsu at Vote, gakido can. Rinnegan absorption is a rinnegan technique so him being to absorb is no surprise. Even his chibaku tensei is different so you're argument is pointless.@bold 2 indeed this is how Sasuke stole Naruto's chakra in vote 2
Completely destroyed you. I even had to repeat what I said above
Viz manga showed Sasuke and Madara used rinnegan absorption not Gakido. You just failed to differentiate different types of absorbing power.
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Show me viz of Sasuke and Madara using exactly this jutsu or stay in denial.
Right okay. So I love how all these DB and mangas are lies now:
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Look at th scans I just posted here. Why don't you explain these instead of the one page you keep holding on to. Well? At least show me the shinra tensei, the Shurado, or even simple King of Hades so that I can agree with you. And you failed to do that as well. I already lost respect for you, you're being illogical. Those are fake edo eyes anyways not even his real rinnegan eyes. And you keep going.
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Is this Susanoo?
There's quite the chance it is because both Madara and Sasuke do it and they're EMS users.
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There's quite the chance it is because both Madara and Sasuke do it and they're EMS users.
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Rikudou Tobi
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I like how this idiot just stupidly used blind madara with no rinnegan and called that absorption power Gakido/Preta.
Is this one preta path too?
Is this one preta path too?
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no. its susanoo. u see the flames for yourself. sasuke evenn screams at the touch.
Yes the flames are there so what? It's the barrier we're talking about. When I was talking about 1 solid structure i meant the barrier not flames. You honestly doesn't see the difference between those 2 scans?
In your scan barrier is indeed 1 solid structure because that's susanoo, in my scan the barrier is different and awfully close resembling preta's path orb(suprise maybe because it is preta path)
How can it be a lie or a speculation when it already happened? The scan is right there. You're the one who's bringing excuses.
Yes he didn't have preta untill the end. Kurama stated if he had more experience with his Rinnegan he could absorb Naruto's jutsu while using his own, manga > your words.
"Rinnegan absorption" is obviously fanfic and preta can absorb both ninjutsu and steal chakra from the body as we know. You're asking for a scan showing a preta being used to steal chakra from the body? Here you go
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Rikudou Tobi
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Just like when madara screamed Perfect susano'o at the kages too. The full power of uchiha or something along those lines, no?
i conceded that a rinnegan is a mangekyo sharingan?
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No, you just conceded that Madara is able to absorb chakra cloaks, which (according to you) only Gakido can do and not Madara (since he couldn't with Lee's cloak). Therefore he has the paths.
Thanks.
Rikudou Tobi
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I was talking about madara inside of the susano'o barrier emitted flames around his body, Gakido barrier doesn't emit any flames from the caster's body.
Even if you're talking about the barrier semi circle its self, it still has
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You're just going off the speculation that it looks like gakido's absorption barrier. Yoroi's absorption power looks like Pain's human path flames so I don't see your point.
In the manga gakido has actually absorbed immediately on contact, it's canon and not a speculation. Your excuse is that he couldn't react fast enough to Lee. Not that he was incapable of absorbing Lee's cloak as the manga shows right in front of your face.
Wrong. He didn't say preta, he just said that he can't absorb
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while using ninjutsu. Preta path or more correctly Gakido absorbs
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while putting out its own jutsu:
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and Nagato's the only one to use Gakido. If Sasuke ever absorbed ninjutsu this wouldn't be a problem. madara's fake edo eyes were able to absorb ninjutsus but drain people. Sasuke or Madara using gakido is fanfic.Oh wow! And I'm assuming that despite the fact that Momoshiki did not say Gakido, his rinnegan also uses Gakido regardless.
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Rikudou Tobi
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Blind Madara with no rinnegan was able to absorb chakra cloak with edo fake rinnegan? You're not making any sense.
While you're at it show me Madara uses shurado and shinra tensei in the manga. Thank you. Even DB would be sufficient.