Can Naruto beat Sasuke in a taijustu match?

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I'm talking about the cloak mode. Both are different sensing. Cloak has emotion sensing and sage mode has danger sensing.
yes but cloak mode is more of a tank while the sage mode is more evasive. thats the reason why naruto sage mode was able to deal with raikage rather than the cloak mode. cloak mode got stomped. in terms or speed cloak mode yes when traveling/make big as$ rasangans but in battle where you need to make quick counters you use sage mode. sage mode is perfect for taijutsu


even naruto couldnt see this coming(in 9ts mode and sage). moves this close or unpredictable are honestly unavoidable and are the only things that naruto cant evade.
 
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Yea true. But few panels later BSM Naruto and EMS Sasuke was matching his speed and movements with ease.
Not really. They were starting to catch up during the last part of their confrontation, even though that was with their avatars rather than base, so I'm not sure if the same thing applies to this thread, but the point still is that they couldn't get in a single hit on him until the very last blow.
 

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Not really. They were starting to catch up during the last part of their confrontation, even though that was with their avatars rather than base, so I'm not sure if the same thing applies to this thread, but the point still is that they couldn't get in a single hit on him until the very last blow.
Yea but it's always like that in Naruto for some reason. Naruto vs Raikage. Bee vs Raikage. Naruto/Sauce vs Obito. Edo kages vs both Juubi jins etc. Tho agreed.
 

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If we’re talking a straight taijutsu fight with 0 jutsus any age sasuke takes any age naruto except as adults, naruto takes that one imo

Edit: actually anything the last and up naruto probably takes it
 

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I think Sasuke's base speed is better than Naruto's considering he doesn't have modes and what-not.

Before that, their bases were very similar, eerily so. Like you can't expect base Naruto to match out Sasuke who is in a 24/7 state of being in his most powerful form. Whilst Naruto has multiple forms to increase his power.

If we are talking RSM Naruto v. Rinnegan Sasuke, then they are neck and neck. I'm not going to go into sematics in terms of shadow clones, setups, Genjutsu, etc.

They should be roughly about the same.
 

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I think Sasuke's base speed is better than Naruto's considering he doesn't have modes and what-not.

Before that, their bases were very similar, eerily so. Like you can't expect base Naruto to match out Sasuke who is in a 24/7 state of being in his most powerful form. Whilst Naruto has multiple forms to increase his power.

If we are talking RSM Naruto v. Rinnegan Sasuke, then they are neck and neck. I'm not going to go into sematics in terms of shadow clones, setups, Genjutsu, etc.

They should be roughly about the same.
Not just speed but most other attributes actually. The way kishi wrote it is to keep them equal. Which means Sasuke's base stats have to pretty much match Cloaked Naruto stats or at least come close.

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No ninjutsu allowed means no shadow clones. From skimming through the pages, it seems people believe that Naruto is physically that much stronger and more durable than Sasuke and would overpower him. This is simply not true and you need to go rewatch the boruto movie. As per above, Sasuke base stats are made to pretty much match Naruto's cloaked stats or how would they be equals.

You can see below for reference. Speed, neck and neck, strength, neck and neck, durability same. Not sure how much durable naruto is supposed to be if a sword is piercing him in cloak form almost same as normal anyways.

Refer to below fight. Sasuke strength feats. He actually showed more impressive strength feats than Naruto in this fight, but i'll let y'all judge.

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Anyways, the argument is simple. Naruto's taijutsu since forever is shadow clone heavy. Remove that against Sasuke, who doesn't have any similar limitations to his taijutsu and obviously Sasuke wins.
 
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If cloaks and sharingan is included, everything else excluded, then Naruto stomps. The bijuu cloak gives him waaaay to much power for Sasuke to handle with a sharingan. I mean, even he was jelly when they were battle obito that Naruto with cloak had a shitload of power or something like that.
 

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Not just speed but most other attributes actually. The way kishi wrote it is to keep them equal. Which means Sasuke's base stats have to pretty much match Cloaked Naruto stats or at least come close.

To Everyone:
No ninjutsu allowed means no shadow clones. From skimming through the pages, it seems people believe that Naruto is physically that much stronger and more durable than Sasuke and would overpower him. This is simply not true and you need to go rewatch the boruto movie. As per above, Sasuke base stats are made to pretty much match Naruto's cloaked stats or how would they be equals.

You can see below for reference. Speed, neck and neck, strength, neck and neck, durability same. Not sure how much durable naruto is supposed to be if a sword is piercing him in cloak form almost same as normal anyways.

Refer to below fight. Sasuke strength feats. He actually showed more impressive strength feats than Naruto in this fight, but i'll let y'all judge.

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Anyways, the argument is simple. Naruto's taijutsu since forever is shadow clone heavy. Remove that against Sasuke, who doesn't have any similar limitations to his taijutsu and obviously Sasuke wins.
This is nice and all, but what some people seem to ignore is the fact that Frog Kata is basically Shadow clones replacement on steroids. (Refer to Pain fight)

Also from the last - present, Naruto's taijutsu isn't shadow clone heavy.

Are we forgetting that BASE Naruto was doing exceptionally well against Momo? Meanwhile the Kages got low-diffed.

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The clear winner here without a single doubt is Naruto. Easily.

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Reminds me of how much of a tank Naruto is.

Either that or those are some really weak swings Sasuke is throwing.

I mean the fact that Sasuke couldn't put him down in that little squabble, means he'd get rekt had Naruto started in SM. :lol
 
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