Proof Byakugan can never/ was not meant to surpass the Sharingan?

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Regardless, the Jougan is destined to be the strongest eye aka "the star of hope" as stated by Toneri. :coffee:

I know it's hard to grasp for you that a half Hyuga will be the pinnacle of Shinobi. :)
But this discussion is about the Byakugan not the Jougan and your speculation.
 

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Can I see the manga scans of that fight?

No it was told by ao during the five Kate meeting he obtained from war. “Spoils of war”

Yet PS loses to Vacuum Palm.

Ha and kaguya loses to PS kami

Beats dying to a talking turd or a dog bone.

True but obits was no king that goes to itachi

Which chapter of your fanfic did this happen?

Nejis horrible flash back of his life story that kinda implied to every child and person

Not only is the above statment a llie, This isnt about Hyuga clan only, there is also

The hyuga is everything they are the closes to the aliens they been breeding with themselves since the moon to persevere the unless byakugan , not a fair trade.


Only pawns I remember being sacrifice were the Uchiha for Konoha's sake :lmao: Even called Senju plaything (toys)

Not sacrificed but feared upon and which clan leader elected his own brother to die for him.

Puppets which are powered by Rikudo Chakra/Nature energy that eve pressure Naruto.

Sure it did. Didn’t see 9tails waking up . Puppets on prolly on zetsu lvl .

lmfao!!! I can't even tell if this is serious XD
 

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Obviously plot. Same reason Pain failed to see Naruto's clones transformed into rocks even though Rennigan also can see Chakra.
More excuses, I can blame everything on plot as well. The obly fact I can see is Madara's sharingan is superior to Kaguya's Kekkei Mora Byakugan in insight. The kekkei mora Byakugan is amped by the strongest rokudo chakra as well.
 
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Uhmm you are delusional so why do you think I care about what you think. You're the biggest Byakugan fanboy there is.

I'm not saying you cant use Otuski but that doesn't really make a difference if you ever bother comparing the Byakugan abilities and the Sharingan abilities. The only time a Byakugan user overpowered a sharingan user was when there was a large gulf in power that was being catalysted by the 10 tails.
Nope, Kinshiki solo Sasuke with Rennigan/EMS low diff without using Byakugan. Now with Byakugan on he would kill him neg diff.
Their byakugan was always activated and what are you saying Kinishiki was losing.
He forced Sasuke to use Rennigan ability. So much for EMS being greater than Byakugan when Sasuke has to depend on Rennigan

Sasuke cut off his horn and Kinishiki was mad about that not to mention Sasuke was low on chakra from dimension travel like every other time he fought Momo and Kinishiki.

Still got overhwhelmed to the point he needed Rennigan, and he didn't when lmfao he ran away.

All I ever said was Momo and Kinishiki never relied on the Byakugan's abilities? and why because they are borderline useless in a high tier fight unless you have a large amount of power stemming from lets say a well sought chakra fruit.
Yeah they didn't use the powers much because Kinshiki fights with kenjutsu from Chakra Fruit and Momoshiki has Rennigan from Chakra Fruit
More excuses, I can blame everything on plot as well. The obly fact i can see is Madara's sharingan is superior to Kaguya's Kekkei Mora Byakugan in insight which is amped by the strongest rokudo chakra.
Okay :lmao:
 

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Can I see the manga scans of that fight?

No it was told by ao during the five Kate meeting he obtained from war. “Spoils of war”

Yet PS loses to Vacuum Palm.

Ha and kaguya loses to PS kami

Beats dying to a talking turd or a dog bone.

True but obits was no king that goes to itachi

Which chapter of your fanfic did this happen?

Nejis horrible flash back of his life story that kinda implied to every child and person

Not only is the above statment a llie, This isnt about Hyuga clan only, there is also

The hyuga is everything they are the closes to the aliens they been breeding with themselves since the moon to persevere the unless byakugan , not a fair trade.


Only pawns I remember being sacrifice were the Uchiha for Konoha's sake :lmao: Even called Senju plaything (toys)

Not sacrificed but feared upon and which clan leader elected his own brother to die for him.

Puppets which are powered by Rikudo Chakra/Nature energy that eve pressure Naruto.

Sure it did. Didn’t see 9tails waking up . Puppets on prolly on zetsu lvl .

lmfao!!! I can't even tell if this is serious XD
Sad part she is. She dont even realize she's conceding to the fact Kaguya failed against the sharingan even with her byakugan abilties being powered by the chakra fruit.
 

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Nope, Kinshiki solo Sasuke with Rennigan/EMS low diff without using Byakugan. Now with Byakugan on he would kill him neg diff.


He forced Sasuke to use Rennigan ability. So much for EMS being greater than Byakugan when Sasuke has to depend on Rennigan




Still got overhwhelmed to the point he needed Rennigan, and he didn't when lmfao he ran away.



Yeah they didn't use the powers much because Kinshiki fights with kenjutsu from Chakra Fruit and Momoshiki has Rennigan from Chakra Fruit
Kinshiki and Momo byakugan is always on from what i can tell. They dont ever shut it off that's why their eyes are white. Kinishiki was losing against Sasuke and lost his horn to show for it. Your post is just a bunch of jibberish to be honest. They had the byakugan but did nothing with it because its a borderline useless powerup.

All Sasuke did was use ameno swap he didn't use any other of his rinnegan abilties which were offensive. So saying Sasuke didn't use EMS only goes to show how much more easily Sasuke could have defeated him.
 
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Obviously plot. Same reason Pain failed to see Naruto's clones transformed into rocks even though Rennigan also can see Chakra.
Not necessarily. Using dojutsu in the heat of battle is tricky and that is where most users fail. Kakashi complimented the usage of byakugan in heat of battle by neji in chuunin exams. Kaguya couldnt see the difference because her byakugan is advanced and it can see both out and inner body so she was confused.
 

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But this discussion is about the Byakugan not the Jougan and your speculation.
The Byakugan is already stronger than the Sharingan, manga facts.

#Why are you talking about MS, I'm pretty sure this thread is about the Sharingan, no? :coffee:

And nope, this isn't speculation. Again, as stated by Toneri Boruto will be the pinnacle/zenith of a shinobi potential and what the Jougan showcased in the Nue Arc is a little fraction of the Jougan power, yup I know half Hyuga solos :win:
 

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Can I see the manga scans of that fight?



Yet PS loses to Vacuum Palm.



Beats dying to a talking turd or a dog bone.



Which chapter of your fanfic did this happen?


Not only is the above statment a llie, This isnt about Hyuga clan only, there is also Ootsutsuki.




Only pawns I remember being sacrifice were the Uchiha for Konoha's sake :lmao: Even called Senju plaything (toys)



Puppets which are powered by Rikudo Chakra/Nature energy that eve pressure Naruto.



lmfao!!! I can't even tell if this is serious XD
So you're saying a vacuum palm by a Hyuuga clan member can solo all 5 kages in comparison? Wtf are you smoking
 

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The Byakugan is already stronger than the Sharingan, manga facts.

#Why are you talking about MS, I'm pretty sure this thread is about the Sharingan, no? :coffee:

And nope, this isn't speculation. Again, as stated by Toneri Boruto will be the pinnacle/zenith of a shinobi potential and what the Jougan showcased in the Nue Arc is a little fraction of the Jougan power, yup I know half Hyuga solos :win:
No its not because if it was then the senju and uchiha would have another rival but they didn't.

So its confirmed Sharingan > Byakugan

MS is just another stage of the sharingan. The byakugan is not another stage of Jougen. to get MS you have to unlock the sharingan. Jougan didn't come from the Byakugan because if it did Boruto would have unlocked the Byakugan first no?

The Jougan is an entirely different dojutsu all together and no Hyuuga clan member possesses it so sorry to burst your fap bubble with facts.
 
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Ughmm yea only rebuttal made in heaven has is no,not true,and the one scan at the very start of the fight....
I don't know how she's going to sleep with the amount of Ls she's taken.

Canon facts = Byakugan is claimed to have better insight than the sharingan. Yet Madara's sharingan has better insight than Kaguya's kekkei Mora Byakugan. Madara could tell the difference between shadow clones and the real Naruto kaguya could not.

Canon facts = Byakugan can see chakra points, Kaguya's can hardly see any but Neji's can see many more. Even then Neji's Byakugan is also inferior to Madara's Sharingan in terms of insight(distinguishing between real naruto and shadow clones). The fact is Kaguya's kekkei Mora Byakugan is inferior to Neji's in that aspect.:lmao: Even then

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Kaguya's Byakugan sight she can hardly see any visible chakra points.


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Neji's Byakugan sees many chakra points more than Kaguya's seeing in both Naruto and Sasuke:lmao:


It's obvious that the Otsutsuki are relying on the chakra fruits(and rinne sharingan, rinnegan) for power buffs. Their Byakugan are quite inferior even Kaguya's with a level 16 chakra fruit.
 
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Disregarding any other powers or chakra a user might wield

Byakugan > Mangekyou Sharingan(the natural peak of sharingan)

Simply due to the strain of using MS and the predestined blindness
 

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Disregarding any other powers or chakra a user might wield

Byakugan > Mangekyou Sharingan(the natural peak of sharingan)

Simply due to the strain of using MS and the predestined blindness
True about the blindness but how many hyugas fall before the blindness. Saskue went up against the 8ts, the five Kage, then danio before blindness.... that’s like worth...the whole hyuga clan right? Well maybe not the whole clan.
 
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its confirmed Byakugan > Sharingan
I'm glad that you agree. I mean, you can only agree since Kaguya soloed Sasuke low diff.

MS is just another stage of the sharingan.
So you admit that you already lose by comparing "another stage" to the Byakugan. I can do it too :)

Tenseigan > Sharingan
Tenseigan > MS + EMS

1) Jougan didn't come from the Byakugan because if it did Boruto would have unlocked the Byakugan first no?
2) The Jougan is an entirely different dojutsu all together and no Hyuuga clan member possesses it so sorry to burst your fap bubble.
According to one of SP Staff, He explained a bit of the Jougan although he mentioned that the author didn't really think through as of right now its not fully planned out yet however he explained in a quote:

"The ability for example should be something like using Hinata's dojutsu and visualizes Naruto's ability to sense evil intent, and is related to Ootsusuki clan's different space dimension(?), best yall don't think too much of it, the writer probably didn't think of it through. But in the future it will be explained with more detail."

Ability to perceive the chakra network just like the Byakugan

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You have the blood of one with the Byakugan mixed within you
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Yup, the Jougan is indeed related with the Byakugan so sorry to burst your fap bubble. :win:
 

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Ability to perceive the chakra network just like the Byakugan

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Yup, the Jougan is indeed related with the Byakugan so sorry to burst your fap bubble. :win:
Wtf has clone's (Boruto's)Jogan got to do with this thread. We dont want to know what kurama, Naruto and Hinata did to produce it. Anyway it's chakra seeing ability has so far only been shown against Nue. It's not been able to see CN of the humans yet. And it's relatiion to negative chakra (Kurama's ability ask Hinata how) is about all we know about it.

Stay on topic of Byakugan and Sharingan.
 

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Wow what a post. A bunch of jibberish, nonsensical logic and a quote about something has no depth or conformation from the manga. You're taking this delusional fanboy thing to another level.
Concession accepted :)

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Related but not the byakugan. Totally different skill set than the byakugan . What bourto has is new.
How you know the Jougan isn't an evolution of the Byakugan?
 
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