Vandenre1ch
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A chunk of the active people here thinks yonko med diff admirals. That should explain some of the asinine posts here to you.
[VS] Akainu vs Kaido, read first
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1. Oda said WB's illness didn't affect his power & will. The illness only drained his reflexes.
2. Squadro's stab is just a little jab compared to what WB can take in total(1000+ slashes, 2000+ gunshots, half his face missing, a hole in his chest, screwered 8 times, 72 cannon blasts, 2 heart attacks).
3. Akainu holding back(no awakening & had to defend the city & the platform) stalemated WB no problem
4. 2 point blank gura punches(one to the back to his damn head) and no one, not even Marco could stop him with his hands in his pockets.
5. Even the haki of Marco & Vista couldn't hurt Aakinu
6. Marco, Croc and the WB commanders couldn't hurt him after the gura punches.
Gets med diffed by a yonko...please.....top tiers are extreme diffs all around with Kaido being the overall strongest.
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It's possible that Whitebeard just said that to make Squard feel better or he didn't want to admit he was damaged, and WB's haki was obviously weakened since he could no longer use CoC.
It would be bad writing for the strongest man to be basically equal to all other top tiers since it was make his title basically useless if he only had a 51% of winning. What's the point of having the title exist if the odds of him winning or losing is basically 50/50?
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It's not like he was as strong as he currently is during some of those defeats, and we still don't know what happened between him and Shanks so don't assume that Shanks stopped him with brute force.
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Except Whitebeard says he has no use for soft words.
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Except Whitebeard admits for everyone to hear in that same panel that he got old and is going to die,
and that these are his final orders.[
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]. Except Whitebeard admitted for everyone to here that he was now an old relic and his era was over on the next page[
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].It makes no sense for Whitebeard to say that to save face and pride, and then immediately forsake his face and pride to admit he's old, he's going to die, and his time has long past.
Considering that Whitebeard's Haki was full force when he struck Akainu, I doubt it. When he tried to use CoC against the executioners, he caught a heart attack, but that doesn't mean his Haki was weakened.
Except it's NOT 50/50. It's not basically 50/50. He wins, period, but it will be a long fought battle. A super difficult battle that you will win is still a battle that you will win
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You're right on the WB part, but MF WB did have weakened reflexes, which still makes him noticeably weaker than himself in his prime.
You haven't answered my original question: How would that OP world know that Kaido is the strongest if the gap between him in the other top tiers isn't noticeable? Yonkos and Admirals rarely fight each other.
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Doesn't really matter. They do.
It was from Kuzan, most likely. We saw him after the war and after the punch, and he wasn't scarred. The damage from WB's punch was on the other side of his body, I think.
Ahh, I know akainu let kuzan live cause he considered him a friend, but I wouldve been disappointed if kuzan hadn't left a scar.
He probably had akainu by the neck at one point and channeled all his haki and logia power to use some absolute zero type attack to freeze akainus neck in an attempt go try and finish him in a desperate situation so he wouldn't loose. But who knows, too bad oda couldn't show us the fight. But who could write a 10 day long fight hahahaha
So u say his time is up and yet he is as powerful as he was in his prime. Guys like u and vander are the most disillusioned ppl on this base. Like his reflexes and speed are the same. What a joke. There is no hype that puts akainu on kaidos level.
Akainu being able to find op when he is a protagonist isn't big all it means is characters who are already top tier or too strong can't be protagonists. It's like saying if a 12th grader will finish high school b4 a 5th grader would, and if u wanna go by oda's off manga statements, he uses Kaido as a benchmark for power, saying mothers are strong even stronger than Kaido. But again that's not the only argument for Kaido rather we have the manga itself.
Haki is relative, no shit he's better than Marco but does he have the durability of a Big mom or a Kaido. So relatively his buso haki is weaker.
Kaido high diffing akainu is a possibility as akainu might just be someone that sabo has to beat. It's still not mid diff which would throw off the OP balance of power.
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Like wb didn't have to hold back breaking the iStand where his comrades were. It was never an even fight with wb taking all those hits u mentioned.
Akainu did not hold back, if he can't beat a old battered wb outright without resorting to squardo, and everybody else hurting him etc. I don't see him beating a big mom, shanks or Kaido who aren't gonna get heart attacks and give him wide openings.
And BM and Kaido are super durable unlike old wb, and having said that it's still high to extreme diff since Op has to have a power balance. But akainu has not shown to impressive than the yonko hype. He can give them a hell fight but likely would lose.
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Uh, what? Whitebeard is a weaker overall fighter than in his prime because his reaction speed and his stamina decreased dramatically. There is zero evidence that other attributes, such as speed, strength, Haki(there might be an argument for this though), Quakes, etc. also decreased.
By Kaido's own hype, he's lost to Admirals and Emperors, people whose level Akainu has obviously been portrayed as being on. The top tiers of the One Piece world have never been portrayed as being far from each other/not on each other's levels.
Ofc by the manga, Kaido will win, but Akainu can still hang with him. The first part of this segment supports that.
We have no evidence to support this.