[Predictions] One Piece Manga Chapter 848 Discussion and 849 Predictions

[Punk Hazard]

Sanji is a big fat L. I can't even make excuses for this character anymore.

Like I asked Relostar, at which point exactly was Sanji supposed to fight back, pitting the Germa Army and two Yonko against the crew?

Yes, because your post was stating the damn obvious.

Which I had to do for certain dumbassery. Not my fault you missed the point.

 

[ToshiZO]

This isn't about fighting back, missed the point entirely. This is about looking like a straight pansy.

 

[Punk Hazard]

This isn't about fighting back, missed the point entirely. This is about looking like a straight pansy.

What was he supposed to do then? Because you're saying not fighting back, and not submitting, then what's the alternative?

 

[ToshiZO]

What was he supposed to do then? Because you're saying not fighting back, and not submitting, then what's the alternative?

Not look like a submissive pansy? Is that hard to do? This is more on Oda choosing to draw him like a pansy who lost his mind.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Not look like a submissive pansy? Is that hard to do? This is more on Oda choosing to draw him like a pansy who lost his mind.

That isn't an answer. What SPECIFIC things is Sanji supposed to do, since you know how to write the story better.

 

[LBeezy]

All this could have been avoided if Sanji had more faith in his crew from the get go.. I'm dissapoined right now but I'm sure he will make up for it later.. Now it's just Robin all over again , for Gods sake , didn't he learn anything

This is one of the posts I relate to the most in this thread..

Real shit..

 

[Punk Hazard]

All this could have been avoided if Sanji had more faith in his crew from the get go.. I'm dissapoined right now but I'm sure he will make up for it later.. Now it's just Robin all over again , for Gods sake , didn't he learn anything

There's a difference between faith and suicidally deluded. How is it at ALL realistic for Sanji to think that Luffy and the others are ready to handle Kaido, Big Mom, and the Germa Army all at once? Again, even Zoro was saying they needed to wisen the hell up and realize that they weren't ready for two Yonko, and this is without the knowledge of the Germa Army, so WHY would Sanji think for a second they could handle all three?

 

[LBeezy]

That isn't an answer. What SPECIFIC things is Sanji supposed to do, since you know how to write the story better.

You act like people can't have an opinion without having better alternatives for the story..

Oda is an artistic genius. So he could've made this go down differently IF he wanted to..

Capone didn't have to arrive on Zou when he did.. imagine if he had arrived when Luffy and the others were there..

Oda is purposely portraying Sanji this way.. for his own reasons.. and it could very well be so that Sanji does something epic af by the end of the arc and surprise us all and make us give him our respect again.. Oda works in mysterious ways.. but it always works..

There's a difference between faith and suicidally deluded. How is it at ALL realistic for Sanji to think that Luffy and the others are ready to handle Kaido, Big Mom, and the Germa Army all at once? Again, even Zoro was saying they needed to wisen the hell up and realize that they weren't ready for two Yonko, and this is without the knowledge of the Germa Army, so WHY would Sanji think for a second they could handle all three?

Simply put, because they are the StrawHat pirates.

 

[Punk Hazard]

You act like people can't have an opinion without having better alternatives for the story..

If you can't think of a logical alternative, even if it isn't better, then you aren't nearly as accurate in your opinion as you think you are.

Oda is an artistic genius. So he could've made this go down differently IF he wanted to..

LIKE?

Capone didn't have to arrive on Zou when he did.. imagine if he had arrived when Luffy and the others were there..

Has nothing to do with my question.

Oda is purposely portraying Sanji this way.. for his own reasons.. and it could very well be so that Sanji does something epic af by the end of the arc and surprise us all and make us give him our respect again.. Oda works in mysterious ways.. but it always works..

And this answers my question, how?

 

[loj]

When you're too dumb to understand the concept of context and story.

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How desperate can you get to defend Sanji LMAO especially in this situation XD the guy went full lovely dovely in moment where he is in deep shit,the guy lost the plot entirely...Sanji learned nothing from Robin case....

 

[Punk Hazard]

Simply put, because they are the StrawHat pirates.

Right, because if Kuma was an enemy, saying that would have stopped him. Like how saying that would have stopped Kizaru. Like how saying that would have saved Ace. I guess the two years of training was useless because hey, they're the Strawhats, and Sanji is aware of Main Character Plot Armor.

How desperate can you get to defend Sanji LMAO especially in this situation XD the guy went full lovely dovely momen where he is in deep shit,the guy los the plot entirely...Sanji learned nothing from Robin case....

The Robin case wasn't even remotely similar to this case where Sanji has to worry about two Yonko and the Germa army going after him and Zeff. Sanji is literally forcing himself to believe a lie so he wouldn't upset Pudding and piss off Big Mom further.

How desperate do you have to be to disregard Oda's writing just to shit on a character.

 

[ToshiZO]

That isn't an answer. What SPECIFIC things is Sanji supposed to do, since you know how to write the story better.

I literally said it, he needs to not look like a pansy for one. Submitting with a smile on your face (when facing the enemy who kidnapped you, the very reason behind this all) is disgusting behaviour.

2. He needs to make some sense, this character is full blown retarded rn, he thinks Luffy is just going to walk away, "cool I'll leave Big Mom's territory because she is letting me live", like he wasn't there when Luffy challenged the WG for Robin, like Luffy didn't go to hell and back, take on top tiers for Ace. Gtfo with this stranger act.

Who knew the year of Sanji would be about him joining the I wanna live duo Nami and Robin, can't wait for that moment. The three princesses of the crew Nami, Robin, and Sanji. So exciting.

 

[loj]

The Robin case wasn't even remotely similar to this case where Sanji has to worry about two Yonko and the Germa army going after him and Zeff. Sanji is literally forcing himself to believe a lie so he wouldn't upset Pudding and piss off Big Mom further.

How desperate do you have to be to disregard Oda's writing just to shit on a character.

Sanji doesn't believe in his captain same Robin didn't as well...at least what Sanji should have done is hope and believe Luffy would do something and is sad that Sanji after all this time doesn't know how Luffy act and still doesn't believe in him...Sanji lost his plot and Oda is just making Sanji worse and worse xd the guy in whole Sanji year didn't do shit lmfao

 

[LBeezy]

Right, because if Kuma was an enemy, saying that would have stopped him. Like how saying that would have stopped Kizaru. Like how saying that would have saved Ace. I guess the two years of training was useless because hey, they're the Strawhats, and Sanji is aware of Main Character Plot Armor.

Why all the StrawHat hate? lol

You think Sanji was being smart but he really wasn't..

Where was this smart logical Sanji (by your definition) when they went up against the WG at Enies Lobby?

Cause THAT was the G Sanji that dgaf and was bout that pirate life with his nakama.. and by my definition was the smart logical Sanji (especially when he closed those gates).


Sanji this arc so far isn't shit compared to his past self.. and that is what some of us are dissapointed about.

 

[Love Cook]

Sanji doesn't believe in his captain same Robin didn't as well...at least what Sanji would do is hope and believe Luffy would do something and is sad that Sanji after all this time doesn't know how Luffy acts and still doesn't believe in him...Sanji lost his plot and Oda is just making Sanji worse and worse xd the guy in whole Sanji year didn't do shit lmfao

Calm down, Sanji's year only started in may, before that we were still on Zou. so we're in the build up part of his arc. These things take time for the big climax. Sanji will be the star in the end.

 

[loj]

Calm down, Sanji's year only started in may, before that we were still on Zou. so we're in the build up part of his arc. These things take time for the big climax. Sanji will be the star in the end.

Seeing how he acts I can see him being worse than he was before

 

[ToshiZO]

Sanji will be the star in the end.

Lets hope Oda doesn't do his usual Luffy wank. Because you might be in for a rude awakening.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I literally said it, he needs to not look like a pansy for one.

Again, this isn't an answer. Me asking "Okay, what do you want Sanji to do so he doesn't look like a pansy" can't be answered by "By not looking like a pansy."

Submitting with a smile on your face (when facing the enemy who kidnapped you, the very reason behind this all) is disgusting behaviour.

True. Good thing Luffy never did this.

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2. He needs to make some sense, this character is full blown retarded rn, he thinks Luffy is just going to walk away, "cool I'll leave Big Mom's territory because she is letting me live", like he wasn't there when Luffy challenged the WG for Robin, like Luffy didn't go to hell and back, take on top tiers for Ace. Gtfo with this stranger act.

In the face of an overwhelming enemy, Luffy WOULD leave to fight another day. When they were being overwhelmed on Sabaody, it was Luffy who said they needed to stop worrying about fighting and get away. Sanji is well aware that Luffy can realize when he absolutely has to leave.

 

[LBeezy]

I suppose this is easier than actually backing up your thoughts with something logical.

Why don't you just answer the question if its that obvious?

I did. That's why I asked the question.

I literally said in the same post (that he quoted) an alternative..

Yall read much?

Or nah?


If Capone arrived at Zou while Luffy and co. was already there then Capone gets roflstomped and boom story is on a different path.. that f*cking simple b.


Read. The both of ya..

 

[loj]

Again, this isn't an answer. Me asking "Okay, what do you want Sanji to do so he doesn't look like a pansy" can't be answered by "By not looking like a pansy."


True. Good thing Luffy never did this.

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In the face of an overwhelming enemy, Luffy WOULD leave to fight another day. When they were being overwhelmed on Sabaody, it was Luffy who said they needed to stop worrying about fighting and get away. Sanji is well aware that Luffy can realize when he absolutely has to leave.

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He just isn't XD like hell would Luffy leave a crew member behind lmfao the guy was ready to take the nuke on Enies Lobby xd