[Question] Is ScrewAttack planning for Zoro vs Erza?

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Nope.

Too many assumptions there, better to just have Erza fight the one he is being powerscaled too, doesn't work like that in cross versus. You need your own direct feats.

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Just skimming through some things Zoro dominates her hard in every physical category. Speed, strength, DC, range all of it goes to Zoro easily, but I'm assuming from how everyone talks of Erza she has a hax factor. Hax can allow you to overcome base stats, but then again applying hax in different verses is difficult to do.

Not exactly they both have similar durability and endurance feats just saying .... :| like if u read the manga (not sure if I guy's do or not).erza is a ****ing tank lol

Also she's way smarter fighter then zoro... even if zoro out shines her physically she can switch to armor variant (she has both strength and ultimate defense armor amongst over 100 other different armor variants)

She also has telekinesis which she can use on zoro's swords (he never fights with all three at the beginning which would gravely impact this fight)
Ppl are forgetting Ezra and zoro kind of mirror each. Other respectfully in the anime they will be in top 5 after everything is said and done while taking a back seat to the main character however the difference between zoro and erza is that zoro is not stronger then Luffy and never will be whereas erza has always had the upper hand against nastu and almost always seems stronger then him (even just by going all out and not completely negating him with different armors that hard counters fire)

I think this is actually good match up but def gonna give it to erza
What ppl may think she lacks physically (she's not weak I'll admit she doesn't lift as much as zoro does but she knows hand to hand combat and she's flicked midnight through multiple walls with just the flick of her wrist lol) she more then makes up for in versatility which zoro sucks at tbh... we have already seen what a faster opponent does to a match (pics completely inferior to zoro bar speed yet made match last forever with that alone and successfully guarding upper level with his statue)
There's also the telekinesis that I mentioned before and erza's flight like abilities ..... then u also have that sword shit where there are like 1,000s of swords attacking u all at once

I mean I think erza got this yes zoro needs more development but that's not erzas fault that's oda's lol stop giving him weak opponents make him fight vergo or doffy or even have the little thing with Fuji be more of a glance if power between them..


So yeah I think erza got this she's top tier in her vers (well if not top right under it zoro can't say the same)

Although not sure which vers is stronger

A fun fight would be freed vs Law though I feel law is stronger both hax is unreal

 

[ToshiZO]

Not exactly they both have similar durability and endurance feats just saying .... :| like if u read the manga (not sure if I guy's do or not).erza is a ****ing tank lol

Also she's way smarter fighter then zoro... even if zoro out shines her physically she can switch to armor variant (she has both strength and ultimate defense armor amongst over 100 other different armor variants)

She also has telekinesis which she can use on zoro's swords (he never fights with all three at the beginning which would gravely impact this fight)
Ppl are forgetting Ezra and zoro kind of mirror each. Other respectfully in the anime they will be in top 5 after everything is said and done while taking a back seat to the main character however the difference between zoro and erza is that zoro is not stronger then Luffy and never will be whereas erza has always had the upper hand against nastu and almost always seems stronger then him (even just by going all out and not completely negating him with different armors that hard counters fire)

I think this is actually good match up but def gonna give it to erza
What ppl may think she lacks physically (she's not weak I'll admit she doesn't lift as much as zoro does but she knows hand to hand combat and she's flicked midnight through multiple walls with just the flick of her wrist lol) she more then makes up for in versatility which zoro sucks at tbh... we have already seen what a faster opponent does to a match (pics completely inferior to zoro bar speed yet made match last forever with that alone and successfully guarding upper level with his statue)
There's also the telekinesis that I mentioned before and erza's flight like abilities ..... then u also have that sword shit where there are like 1,000s of swords attacking u all at once

I mean I think erza got this yes zoro needs more development but that's not erzas fault that's oda's lol stop giving him weak opponents make him fight vergo or doffy or even have the little thing with Fuji be more of a glance if power between them..


So yeah I think erza got this she's top tier in her vers (well if not top right under it zoro can't say the same)

Although not sure which vers is stronger

A fun fight would be freed vs Law though I feel law is stronger both hax is unreal

I don't know if I should trust you with scaling feats.

Does Erza have anything close to this. Where Zoro takes a city block level punch and only comes out with a couple scuff marks? [

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Does Erza have any attack on city level? Which Zoro has when he cut a city sized statue in half? [

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Or physical strength? Pre timeskip Zoro was lifting 4 tons of weight with two fingers? [

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Where post timeskip Zoro is like 10+ times stronger.

As for speed, briefly checking OBD and Zoro is calced faster than Erza as well. (he's at massively hypersonic +, she is hypersonic+ according to them)

I'll admit I don't know much about Erza but you would have to show me something on this level for me to believe her base stats are on par. Cause skimming through the net for her feats, and they don't seem to be close.

Abilities is a different argument, she may have the edge due to some sort of hax I don't know of.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I don't know if I should trust you with scaling feats.

Does Erza have anything close to this. Where Zoro takes a city block level punch and only comes out with a couple scuff marks? [

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Does Erza have any attack on city level? Which Zoro has when he cut a city sized statue in half? [

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Or physical strength? Pre timeskip Zoro was lifting 4 tons of weight with two fingers? [

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Where post timeskip Zoro is like 10+ times stronger.

As for speed, briefly checking OBD and Zoro is calced faster than Erza as well. (he's at massively hypersonic +, she is hypersonic+ according to them)

I'll admit I don't know much about Erza but you would have to show me something on this level for me to believe her base stats are on par. Cause skimming through the net for her feats, and they don't seem to be close.

Abilities is a different argument, she may have the edge due to some sort of hax I don't know of.

Again all of these are physical feats yes zoro is strong we get it but he is not thatfast in terms of foot speed he has no real way of attacking fighters who fly and his swords can be taken away from him ...

But if u want u can read all of this to kind of get a grasp at what erza is sort of like run down but f u don't I'll just post advantages

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The reason I think u should read this is because it's from screw attack so if anything they would use this if they ever do have a battle between the two

Advantages:
High amount of attack variety thanks to her numerous armours and weapons
Resistance to fire, electric and water attacks thanks to Flame, Lightning and Sea Empress Armors, as well as attacks based on them
Many armors grant her flight, even if it's somewhat limited
Heaven's Wheel Armor will allow Erza to attack from numerous directions
Adamantine Armor provides amazing defense
Flight Armor grants her high movement speeds
At least casually bullet-timing reactions, and since this was pre-series she is likely much faster (this isliterally her mirroring Luffy post time skip obersvation Haki just that it's not tech in fairy tail it's just observation ..)
Incredible physical strength
City level destructive capabilities via scaling to Ajeel
Amazing durability, even without Adamantine
Could take on multiple opponents goes at once, as shown by the Pandemonium event
Lots of combat experience
Master swordsmanship and hand-to-hand
Telekinesis could help her get in sneak attacks
Using different armors and weapons in conjunction with each other may throw enemies off
Good strategist, could most likely find enemy weaknesses quickly
Island-level destructive capability with Armadura Fairy Armor
Robe of Yuen will prevent any type of binding attacks
Can fend off illusions thanks to her fake eye, as shown in her fight with Midnight
Nakagami and Wingblade Armor can bypass enemy defenses with ease
Is best waifu

Zoro again yes he's freaking amazing physically speaking however he lacks speed versatility and honestly all around intellect when fighting (not talking bout fighting style that obviously goes without saying but more so adapting to a fight he never fights differently and he always tries to overpower his opponent which is cool but erza u can't really fight her exactly like that he also has no defenses so she can attack. Him right back with her swords or try to block his attack while simotaniously having swords telekentically stab him from behind..

 

[ToshiZO]

Again all of these are physical feats yes zoro is strong we get it but he is not thatfast in terms of foot speed he has no real way of attacking fighters who fly and his swords can be taken away from him ...

But if u want u can read all of this to kind of get a grasp at what erza is sort of like run down but f u don't I'll just post advantages

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Not reading all that.

Advantages:
High amount of attack variety thanks to her numerous armours and weapons

Yea she has too many armours to count.

Resistance to fire, electric and water attacks thanks to Flame, Lightning and Sea Empress Armors, as well as attacks based on them

Won't help against Zoro.

Many armors grant her flight, even if it's somewhat limited

Won't help her against Zoro, he has tons of range with his slashes. He shoots her down.

Heaven's Wheel Armor will allow Erza to attack from numerous directions

Zoro counters this with tatsumaki, covers all angles around him, 360 degrees.

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Adamantine Armor provides amazing defense

This might be an issue for Zoro.

Flight Armor grants her high movement speeds

Zoro just has to be able to react, as long as his reaction speed is good enough her movement speed is irrelevant.

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Add on the fact that he has precognition with observation haki, don't see Erza's speed as an issue at all, especially considering she is calcd slower than Zoro anyways.

At least casually bullet-timing reactions, and since this was pre-series she is likely much faster

Nothing impressive.

Incredible physical strength

Weaker than Zoro.

City level destructive capabilities via scaling to Ajeel

Scans?

Amazing durability, even without Adamantine

Doesn't seem special to me.

Could take on multiple opponents goes at once, as shown by the Pandemonium event

Ok

Lots of combat experience

cool

Master swordsmanship and hand-to-hand

cool

Telekinesis could help her get in sneak attacks

This could work.

Using different armors and weapons in conjunction with each other may throw enemies off
Good strategist, could most likely find enemy weaknesses quickly

Nothing that means much.

Island-level destructive capability with Armadura Fairy Armor

Scans please.

Robe of Yuen will prevent any type of binding attacks

Irrelevant.

Can fend off illusions thanks to her fake eye, as shown in her fight with Midnight

Don't think it's relevant here.

Nakagami and Wingblade Armor can bypass enemy defenses with ease

Whats the strongest thing they've bypassed?

Is best waifu

She's not seducing him.

 

[Love Cook]

As much as I like One Piece, Fairy Tail is in another league when it comes to power.

This fight won't end well for Zoro.

 

[Hexuze]

As much as I like One Piece, Fairy Tail is in another league when it comes to power.

This fight won't end well for Zoro.

How??

 

[ToshiZO]

As much as I like One Piece, Fairy Tail is in another league when it comes to power.

This fight won't end well for Zoro.

Lmfaoo no its not. Looking cool while throwing attacks doesn't mean anything.

 

[Punk Hazard]

As much as I like One Piece, Fairy Tail is in another league when it comes to power.

This fight won't end well for Zoro.

What makes you say that?

 

[ToshiZO]

What makes you say that?

Most likely the cool factor. How fast the characters look drawn, how cool/casual they look while throwing attacks. Which isn't quantifiable in any way.

Example of this cool effect would be soru in one piece, when Vergo uses soru it looks the same as when Tashigi uses it, we know Vergo's faster but you can't calc the speed without actually having something to measure the speed with.

 

[kimb]

I hope not, considering I'm salty they had doomsday beat hulk.....world breaker hulk...

I wasn't too salty about Doomsday winning. I just could not see a way for Hulk (even worldbreaker Hulk) to kill Doomsday. Plus the explanation they gave to Hulks strength being tied to his ability to get angry via chemical reactions in his brain, made sense.

I'm just hoping they don't pull the same shit on Zoro they pulled on Gaara in his fight vs Toph.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Most likely the cool factor. How fast the characters look drawn, how cool/casual they look while throwing attacks. Which isn't quantifiable in any way.

Example of this cool effect would be soru in one piece, when Vergo uses soru it looks the same as when Tashigi uses it, we know Vergo's faster but you can't calc the speed without actually having something to measure the speed with.

*****, did I ask you what Love Cook thinks or did I ask Love Cook what Love Cook thinks?

 

[Ōkami]

Zoro wins easily.

Erza only wins fights via Deus ex Machina.

 

[ToshiZO]

*****, did I ask you what Love Cook thinks or did I ask Love Cook what Love Cook thinks?

I already know what he thinks. You're welcome.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I already know what he thinks. You're welcome.

Nah, nah, shut ya lips. I'll let you know when I'm asking you something

 

[Vandenre1ch]

The problem is that most of Erza's feats are BS and don't make logical sense. She has armor for every situation. Lets use two of Erza's fights as an example.

Erza vs Azuma in Tenrou Island Arc: Azuma uses wood magic and hit Erza with a move called "Tower Burst", an explosion of fire & light. The attack knocked Erza out but she came to because "her friends are telling her not to lose" even though no one was around & they were occupied with opponents of their one. They don't even know who was fighting or where everyone else is. Anyways, Azuma hits Erza with a bigger & much more powerful Tower Burst and this time, Erza doesn't even lose consciousness. Because of the "strength of her friends & bonds", she tanked the move and took out Azuma with one attack........

Erza vs Demon Kyouka in Tartoros Arc: Kyouka has the ability alter senses. Kyouka uses her ability to cause her strength to increase every second and make Erza's sense of pain rise up to its limit. A simple gentle gus of air caused Erza to scream at the top of her lungs, cry & twitch in pain. Kyouka then proceeds to cut her up & remove all 5 of her senses. Despite having no sense of hearing, sight, smell, taste or touch, Erza STILL was able to find & fight Kyouza and defeat her in one attack. How? According to Erza "Because I'll never lose my light of friendship!!." According to the author? Because she's Erza............

 

[KCN]

*****, did I ask you what Love Cook thinks or did I ask Love Cook what Love Cook thinks?

^

What an asshole guys.

 

[LitzSabr]

The problem is that most of Erza's feats are BS and don't make logical sense. She has armor for every situation. Lets use two of Erza's fights as an example.

Erza vs Azuma in Tenrou Island Arc: Azuma uses wood magic and hit Erza with a move called "Tower Burst", an explosion of fire & light. The attack knocked Erza out but she came to because "her friends are telling her not to lose" even though no one was around & they were occupied with opponents of their one. They don't even know who was fighting or where everyone else is. Anyways, Azuma hits Erza with a bigger & much more powerful Tower Burst and this time, Erza doesn't even lose consciousness. Because of the "strength of her friends & bonds", she tanked the move and took out Azuma with one attack........

Erza vs Demon Kyouka in Tartoros Arc: Kyouka has the ability alter senses. Kyouka uses her ability to cause her strength to increase every second and make Erza's sense of pain rise up to its limit. A simple gentle gus of air caused Erza to scream at the top of her lungs, cry & twitch in pain. Kyouka then proceeds to cut her up & remove all 5 of her senses. Despite having no sense of hearing, sight, smell, taste or touch, Erza STILL was able to find & fight Kyouza and defeat her in one attack. How? According to Erza "Because I'll never lose my light of friendship!!." According to the author? Because she's Erza............

The first is somewhat acceptable by FT standards I guess but the second one. Wow just...

See this is what would happen.
Zoro uses Daisen Sekai, bypasses even the strongest of erza's armor and slices her in two cuz a deathbattle.
Erza then proceeds to overpower and defeat zoro with half her body.

 

[Main I]

Finally, something up my alley.

OT: Zoro casually stomps and solos her fodder verse. Low difficulty due to sheer numbers. Otherwise it'd be a neg-fest.

Via feats-

Zoro: small city with little effort, GM calc'd the Pica Slash at 11.5 MT last time I checked/MHS+ via scaling from a casual Gear 2nd Luffy, PTS Van Augur, etc. Approximately mach 1500 if we rank his combat speed directly under Luffy's (which is downplay, he's been consistently portrayed as superior to Luffy in that respect).

Erza: Town level// high-hypersonic+ - low massively hypersonic, about 60 or so, being *extremely* generous. There are literally no feats in that ballpark that weren't performed by Dragons.

Zoro blitzes her face off and one-shot based on feats alone.

With powerscaling? Lol. He solos the verse, as I said. Asura Zoro is at least comparable to Gear 4th Luffy, who's solidly island level with KKG, calc'd on numerous occasions.

Don't even get me started on speed. Lol. FT-verse god-tiers are small island to island (< Island level being the HIGHEST and most wanked high-end) and barely MHS. Lol.

M3 butt****s.

 

[Punk Hazard]

(which is downplay, he's been consistently portrayed as superior to Luffy in that respect).

Like where?

Asura Zoro is at least comparable to Gear 4th Luffy

Based on?

 

[Love Cook]

What makes you say that?

Because the realm of possibilities in Fairy Tail. The boundaries of reality can be pushed a lot further then in One Piece. Where Devil Fruits can be considered magical and grant abilities the charachters in Fairy tail use actual magic.

Take Gray for example who is an ice wizard. He uses techniques that surpass Aokiji's abilities. He uses that snap freeze just as easily as an admiral level fighter in One Piece. And like someone said before FT has magicians that control time and senses, open gates to other realms.

If you would subject Zoro to any of that he would be lost. Maybe lack of sight can be replaced by amazing CoO, but that is only shown by Fujitora in One Piece.

In One Piece big animals can be considered as strong opponents. Luffy and Zoro trained against animals during the timeskip for example. In Fairy Tail Erza cleared a gauntlet of 100 high ranking demons.

Erza has elemental swords with all sorts of tricks to them. We all know how Zoro struggles to find out the secret to behind a skill in order to beat it and Erza can casually cycle through them.

She also has a huge collection of armors. I really don't know what all her outfits do but I looked one up just to show her range. She has an armor that is called The Adamantine Armor. And Adamantine is considered to be in the same boat as diamond when it comes to toughness. So good luck cutting that.

The point is that Erza's range varies on the attacking side from all kinds of "devil fruit abilities" to elemental sword styles and the number of swords she wields. And on the defence she has loads of magical armors that cancel effects, boost her abilities, or are just as hard as diamond.

She is basically someone who ate 15 devil fruits.

And destruction wise Erza also had fights that leveled city blocks. In the video she uses something that is on par with cutting Pica and that was just one of her moves, not even a finsher. look at 2:35

[video=youtube;b4h50Zwody4]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4h50Zwody4[/video]

Most likely the cool factor. How fast the characters look drawn, how cool/casual they look while throwing attacks. Which isn't quantifiable in any way.

Example of this cool effect would be soru in one piece, when Vergo uses soru it looks the same as when Tashigi uses it, we know Vergo's faster but you can't calc the speed without actually having something to measure the speed with.

No not at all