[Question] Is ScrewAttack planning for Zoro vs Erza?

[Bogard]

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Adamantium or whatever, your time is up

Seriously though isn't the adamantium the thing inside Wolverin's skeleton and claws? In this case it might be an issue

 

[LitzSabr]

Invel the ice mage, beaten by Gray the stronger ice mage. Was able to instantly freeze dragonflames. You can find a scan on the previous page. So it doesn't matter if Akainu keeps producing because the freezing part was instant and I turned the the heat of the flames all the way down and the heat off the magma all the way up to give Akainu an edge. And inyour powst you're buffing Akainu even more that says enough that and admiral in One Piece has to be dialed all the way up to counter attack a finger swipe motion of a Fairy Tail Character that was beaten fairly easily.

Diamond is the strongest 'natural' material and Adamantium is a man mad alloy which is commonly believed to be stronger than diamond. I was being generous by saying it was in the same ballpark or close to diamond, to give Zoro a chance. Bottom line is that he isn't going to cut that armor.

If that isn't enough Erza can alzo summon 200 swords.

Producing much more quantity matters. A bucket of water won't help if you throw it on a burning house. And even before that to see if he is even able to do that, about the effectiveness of attack, you didn't give me anything about the dragon flames which means nothing to conclude about the ice freezing it. What am I to do by looking at that one scan? The boost I mentioned for Akainu is only logical seeing conditions in OP.

Only bottomline here is that having properties of adament won't necessarily put you on diamond's level. And neither does the feat of erza's armor support it to be one. Not to mention her armor is called adamantine.

Number of swords don't matter, Zoro has already made that clear.

I don't think either you or me has anything to offer at this point but put down the argument if you want.

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Adamantium or whatever, your time is up

Seriously though isn't the adamantium the thing inside Wolverin's skeleton and claws? In this case it might be an issue

Lol True. Only thing Zoro won't be able to cut through is the armor of friendship.
No that is not exactly an admantine material. But hey it's marvel and they have classes in their alloy adamantium too so why does it matter.

 

[Main I]

Invel the ice mage, beaten by Gray the stronger ice mage. Was able to instantly freeze dragonflames. You can find a scan on the previous page. So it doesn't matter if Akainu keeps producing because the freezing part was instant and I turned the the heat of the flames all the way down and the heat off the magma all the way up to give Akainu an edge. And inyour powst you're buffing Akainu even more that says enough that and admiral in One Piece has to be dialed all the way up to counter attack a finger swipe motion of a Fairy Tail Character that was beaten fairly easily.

Diamond is the strongest 'natural' material and Adamantium is a man mad alloy which is commonly believed to be stronger than diamond. I was being generous by saying it was in the same ballpark or close to diamond, to give Zoro a chance. Bottom line is that he isn't going to cut that armor.

If that isn't enough Erza can alzo summon 200 swords.



Whatever you say Bill Nye the manga science guy. I have a masters degree in Architectural engineering, I know science when I see it. The slash of a cartoon character is not science, all the stuff you have to back those feats up is indeed made up evidence.

Don't mock me because you're silly enough to take that seriously. The title I got for graduating was Msc.. funnily enough that stands for Master of Science.

Talking about me like you know me, you know shit.

I'm happy to discuss and compare manga fights and compare panels. But leave Hiroshima out of it. All those calculations of speed and strength are nothing more than guesswork.

Now, THAT is a concession. Lol. Not only is that generally unimpressive considering I'm a CJ major, in my junior year and attend NYU- one of the top 50 most prestigious universities in the world, but it's a miraid of different kinds of pathetic that you'd rather make an underhanded and frankly comical attempt at pulling rank (thus applying an appeal to authority fallacy) to avoid concession and the fact that you've been utterly decimated in this discussion from every conceivable angle. Did that somehow add some sort of substance to your sandcastle of an argument that I've soundly put out of its misery?

I mean honestly, no amount of boasting over the degree you may or may not have will change the fact that your debate prowess and etiquette are apalling, you've presented nothing that can even be considered an attempt at refuting the plethora of evidence I've provided and have done nothing but appeal to personal incredulity, another logical fallacy. Those are flaws in argumentative reasoning, btw. Really, did you think saying you were an architect would somehow erase the fact that you implied that OBD and VSBW made up basic scientific methods and formulas that have been utilized for over a century? I don't care what you say, you don't know shit. Unless you're willing to actually address the flaws in my position, which you apparently have no intention to do.

Yeah, yeah "I know science and that isn't it!" just like you knew what a kiloton was, yeah? You're so completely full of it.

Whenever you're finished playing Bob The Builder and finally snap back to reality I can perhaps teach you a thing or two. Part some knowledge into that empty head, you know?

 

[Love Cook]

Now, THAT is a concession. Lol. Not only is that generally unimpressive considering I'm a CJ major, in my junior year and attend NYU- one of the top 50 most prestigious universities in the world, but it's a miraid of different kinds of pathetic that you'd rather make an underhanded and frankly comical attempt at pulling rank (thus applying an appeal to authority fallacy) to avoid concession and the fact that you've been utterly decimated in this discussion from every conceivable angle. Did you figure it would somehow add some sort of substance to your sandcastle of an argument that I've soundly put out of its misery?

I mean honestly, no amount of boasting over the degree you may or may not have will change the fact that your debate prowess and etiquette are apalling, you've presented nothing that can even be considered an attempt at refuting the plethora of evidence I've provided and have done nothing but appeal to personal incredulity, another logical fallacy. Those are flaws in argumentative reasoning, btw. Really, did you think saying you were an architect would somehow erase the fact that you implied that OBD and VSBW made up basic scientific methods and formulas that have been utilized for over a century? I don't care what you say, you don't know shit. Unless you're willing to actually address the flaws in my position, which you apparently have no intention to do.

Yeah, yeah "I know science and that isn't it!" just like you knew what a kiloton was, yeah? You're so completely full of it.

Whenever you're finished playing Bob The Builder and finally snap back to reality I can perhaps teach you a thing or two. Part some knowledge into that empty head, you know?

No I wasn't pulling rank you were trash talking like a punk, saying I don't know science. I will outsience and outmath you any day of the week. Also I believe that attending isn't the same as finishing. So maybe next time you write a paper use that OBD science to get you a good grade, because here it's worth shit. I don't take it seriously for one second. Also calling my degree generally unimpressive just proves how little you know. Only 1 in 500 people worldwide have a degree like that. So to do some math for you that is 0.2%, where you at ?

Also to be clear I'm not shitting on the century old formula's I'm shitting on the fact that someone is converting Zoro's strike to from a cartoon to a real world situation in Nagasaki/

You can mock me all day long about it, it's a load of crap to think that this is a good way to convert power from one manga to another.

Island buster, city buster, you're just a plain old punk ass buster. Go finish your school.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Now, THAT is a concession. Lol. Not only is that generally unimpressive considering I'm a CJ major, in my junior year and attend NYU- one of the top 50 most prestigious universities in the world, but it's a miraid of different kinds of pathetic that you'd rather make an underhanded and frankly comical attempt at pulling rank (thus applying an appeal to authority fallacy) to avoid concession and the fact that you've been utterly decimated in this discussion from every conceivable angle. Did that somehow add some sort of substance to your sandcastle of an argument that I've soundly put out of its misery?

I mean honestly, no amount of boasting over the degree you may or may not have will change the fact that your debate prowess and etiquette are apalling, you've presented nothing that can even be considered an attempt at refuting the plethora of evidence I've provided and have done nothing but appeal to personal incredulity, another logical fallacy. Those are flaws in argumentative reasoning, btw. Really, did you think saying you were an architect would somehow erase the fact that you implied that OBD and VSBW made up basic scientific methods and formulas that have been utilized for over a century? I don't care what you say, you don't know shit. Unless you're willing to actually address the flaws in my position, which you apparently have no intention to do.

Yeah, yeah "I know science and that isn't it!" just like you knew what a kiloton was, yeah? You're so completely full of it.

Whenever you're finished playing Bob The Builder and finally snap back to reality I can perhaps teach you a thing or two. Part some knowledge into that empty head, you know?

This has to be a ****ing copypasta

 

[Main I]

No I wasn't pulling rank you were trash talking like a punk, saying I don't know science. I will outsience and outmath you any day of the week. Also I believe that attending isn't the same as finishing. So maybe next time you write a paper use that OBD science to get you a good grade, because here it's worth shit. I don't take it seriously for one second. Also calling my degree generally unimpressive just proves how little you know. Only 1 in 500 people worldwide have a degree like that. So to do some math for you that is 0.2%, where you at ?

Also to be clear I'm not shitting on the century old formula's I'm shitting on the fact that someone is converting Zoro's strike to from a cartoon to a real world situation in Nagasaki/

You can mock me all day long about it, it's a load of crap to think that this is a good way to convert power from one manga to another.

Island buster, city buster, you're just a plain old punk ass buster. Go finish your school.

Talk trash? It's almost as if I slammed the sentience right out of you. I didn't insult you throughout that entire comment, I made objective statements about your complete lack of refutation and clear ignorance regarding basic scientific measurement. You don't know science, you don't know shit. All you really know is the smell of your own rectal walls, seeing as your head is so far up your ass.

Then go ahead, big guy. Out-science me. Stop flapping your fat lips and get refuting, homo-simian. Click on the link, address any and every flaw regarding the applied physics and disprove me. If the notion is so ludicrous, so outlandish, so laughable, then why are you struggling to provide even a basic refutal? Why have you yet to specify a single error in the presented evidence? Why are you bumbling about like a coked up baboon instead of doing this out-mathing you spoke of?

No, you're disregarding century-old scientific method. OBD didn't create a single method that they use to calc. Not a one. None of the mathematical formulas, scientific formulas, procedures, none of it. It's all text-book calculus, physics and the like. This "OBD" science you speak of, as I've illustrated numerous times, is just run-of-the-mill science. Though, this is coming from the same man who didn't know what the f*ck a kiliton was so I can't exactly say I'm surprised. Lol.

Oh really? Well, if you want to put it like that; there are only 50,000 or so students at NYU. That's 0.0000071467% of people world-wide. 0.1% of applicants are admitted and half of that drop out in freshman year. I'm already in 0.001% of those that applied. Lol. Where I'm at? Significantly above you in your child-like dlck-measuring contest, apparently. We can disregard those that

It's a load of crap because you say so, yeah? Just because it is, right? Because you find it hard to believe? How utterly pathetic. Lol. Your incredulity isn't worth the shit-stain on your upper-lip, bucko. Disprove me or go call about a cast for your neck. You're going to need it. Lol.

 

[Love Cook]

Talk trash? It's almost as if I slammed the sentience right out of you. I didn't insult you throughout that entire comment, I made objective statements about your complete lack of refutation and clear ignorance regarding basic scientific measurement. You don't know science, you don't know shit. All you really know is the smell of your own rectal walls, seeing as your head is so far up your ass.

Then go ahead, big guy. Out-science me. Stop flapping your fat lips and get refuting, homo-simian. Click on the link, address any and ever flaw regarding the applied physics and disprove me. If the notion is so ludicrous, so outlandish, so laughable, then why are you struggling to provide even a basic refutal? Why have you yet to specific a single error in the presented evidence? Why are you bumbling about like a coked up baboon instead of doing this out-matching you spoke of?

No, you're disregarding century-old scientific method. OBD didn't create a single method that they use to calc. Not a one. None of the mathematical formulas, scientific formulas, procedures, none of it. It's all text-book calculus, physics and the like. This "OBD" science you speak of, as I've illustrated numerous times, is just run-of-the-mill science. Though, this is coming from the same man who didn't know what the f*ck a kiliton was so I can't exactly say I'm surprised. Lol.

Oh really? Well, if you want to put it like that; there are only 50,000 or so students at NYU. That's 0.0000071467% of the people on Earth. Where I'm at? Significantly above you in your child-like dlck-measuring contest, apparently.

It's a load of crap because you say so, yeah? Just because it is, right? Because you find it hard to believe? How utterly pathetic. Lol. Your incredulity isn't worth the shit-stain on your upper-lip, bucko. Disprove me or go call about a cast for your neck. You're going to need it. Lol.

No you don't understand I have nothing against the science they use. But don't use it on manga feats because that doesn't make any goddamn sense. It's fiction my friend. What is next are we going to debate how Neo was able to dodge bullets or how many nuclear bombs harry potter has in his magic wand.

Also I see a little mistake, not surprising, in your math. Don't you need to take in account all the students that are alive and have ever been to NYU ? That would make you little less a of special millennial snowflake.

Since I believe I have the bigger **** in this contest, can you also say that you once were voted as most handsome man during a trip to Turkey by the animation staff of the hotel ? because I can.

Mr. beauty and brains. According to OBD science that makes me 0.00000000000000001% special

 

[Main I]

No you don't understand I have nothing against the science they use. But don't use it on manga feats because that doesn't make any goddamn sense. It's fiction my friend. What is next are we going to debate how Neo was able to dodge bullets or how many nuclear bombs harry potter has in his magic wand.

Also I see a little mistake, not surprising, in your math. Don't you need to take in account all the students that are alive and have ever been to NYU ? That would make you little less a of special millennial snowflake.

Since I believe I have the bigger **** in this contest, can you also say that you once were voted as most handsome man during a trip to Turkey by the animation staff of the hotel ? because I can.

Mr. beauty and brains. According to OBD science that makes me 0.00000000000000001% special

I just LOVE how hard you're trying to defend your worth as a human being right now. How nonexistent your self-security must be. Lol. Tell me, what does that have to do with any part of this discussion? Though, if you'd like to bring it to that front I can say I was approached by an executive of an adult film (Vivid) company for model recruitment over a few Instagram pictures when I was 19. Lol. I've also modeled for Hollister on two occasions. Mikhail Duggan. You should look me up and follow me on IG, I'll give you a shoutout, you might get a few hundred b!tches, maybe even the will to live. Though, bragging about this sort of thing is utterly atrocious on the internet.

I didn't factor in that bit because it should have been apparent that the result would have still been a few thousand times less than 0.2%. Can't stop overestimating you. Lol.

You don't seem very intelligent though. Lol. Still shit-tier by OBD standards, boi.

Well, I've god-stomped you in this debate. I do believe we're done here.

 

[Love Cook]

I just LOVE how hard you're trying to defend your worth as a human being right now. How nonexistent your self-security must be. Lol. Tell me, what does that have to do with any part of this discussion? Though, if you'd like to bring it to that front I can say I was approached by an executive of an adult film (Vivid) company for model recruitment over a few Instagram pictures when I was 19. Lol. I've also modeled for Hollister on two occasions. Mikhail Duggan. You should look me up and follow me on IG, I'll give you a shoutout, you might get a few hundred b!tches, maybe even the will to live. Though, bragging about this sort of thing is utterly atrocious on the internet.

I didn't factor in that bit because it should have been apparent that the result would have still been a few thousand times less than 0.2%. Can't stop overestimating you. Lol.

You don't seem very intelligent though. Lol. Still shit-tier by OBD standards, boi.

Well, I've god-stomped you in this debate. I do believe we're done here.

ok ok Hollister is pretty respectable, I am more of an Abercrombie guy myself though. Also I tried to find Mikhail Duggan but I only see the mayor of Detroit. No *****es or anything. But I have one last thing to one up you. Which is also measurable by your dumb OBP standards.

I once beat a strongman on a carnival in an arm wrestling contest. He had at least a megaton in his right bicep.

So get shit on scrub, I'm pretty much the perfect man. You're just a beta.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Oh this loophole shit again. Zoro the face cutter. Known for hitting the face.

Just accept that if a character is wearing a Adamantine armor, that the writer is trying to convey the message, this is a very strong armor, you can't just surpass this.

If you just follow the normal rules of battle in anime, nobody is getting stabbed in the face because that would defeat the purpose of drawing the damn armor in the first place.

I cannot count the amount of times I've read that Zoro would cut limbs if he would fight opponents that aren't swordsmen. While Zoro has never cut a limb before. If Luffy would clash with Zoro the fight wouldn't end in Zoro cutting Luffy's arm off even though he is very much capable in doing so.

So don't be like he is going to stab Erza in the face, that is not how the fight would play out in the manga if Oda or Hiro would write it.

Why won't he? If his only chance to win is to cut her face, he'll have no choice but to do so. And not that Zoro's only chance to beat Erza with that armor is cutting her face. All Erza will be doing here is being thrown around by Zoro like a ragdoll. She'd get squashed inside the armor from the sheer pressure.

 

[Main I]

ok ok Hollister is pretty respectable, I am more of an Abercrombie guy myself though. Also I tried to find Mikhail Duggan but I only see the mayor of Detroit. No *****es or anything. But I have one last thing to one up you. Which is also measurable by your dumb OBP standards.

I once beat a strongman on a carnival in an arm wrestling contest. He had at least a megaton in his right bicep.

So get shit on scrub, I'm pretty much the perfect man. You're just a beta.

I never once said I was a celebrity but you will find me in Hollister's 2015 summer apparel catalog and the 2014 fall catalogue. I was being sincere when I said I'd shout you out though, big dog. DM me for my IG, I posted all my professional modeling there as well, you don't even have to look. Also type curious to see your page. Lol.

Okay. You still get fodderized by a casual Zoro, fam.

 

[Calpal]

pls no moar my heart hurts

 

[Love Cook]

Why won't he? If his only chance to win is to cut her face, he'll have no choice but to do so. And not that Zoro's only chance to beat Erza with that armor is cutting her face. All Erza will be doing here is being thrown around by Zoro like a ragdoll. She'd get squashed inside the armor from the sheer pressure.

I told you that is not how a fight plays out. The armor is just there to show the reader that there is a layer of protection. Hiro could've just as easily drawn a visor on but he didn't. Yet no one she fought went for the face. It's just a plot device to tell us now the same character is stronger. You might as well ask why is Zoro bothering with all the sword fighting if he would chop of a leg the fight would be over.

It just doesn't work out like that. If you're watching a hollywood action movie where the hero shot 500 guys before reaching the boss villain it will still end in a fist fight.

You can't just say Zoro will cut her face.

Besides Erza has armors that allow her to fly. So Zoro can't throw her around too much.

You also don't give her strength enough credit. Look at the video I posted a few pages back, she busts out of a giant floating island leaving an enormous hole. If she would use that on Pica it would have a similar result to what Zoro did.

I never once said I was a celebrity but you will find me in Hollister's 2015 summer apparel catalog and the 2014 fall catalogue. I was being sincere when I said I'd shout you out though, big dog. DM me for my IG, I posted all my professional modeling there as well, you don't even have to look. Also type curious to see your page. Lol.

Okay. You still get fodderized by a casual Zoro, fam.

Sorry little man, the real discussion has started again playtime is over.

 

[LitzSabr]

The only armor that I'm thinking can hurt zoro is nakagami armor of erza. No amounts of durability can save you from something that can cut through time and space. With Zoro's massive speed advantage and pre cog it shouldn't be a problem to dodge to attack but an interesting factor nonetheless. Screwattack is bound to put this armor in the battle and let's see what they plan with this.

 

[ArabianLuffy]

Geez! Looking at those walls of texts. You guys are high IQ. I dunno what brought Kuzan and Gray to this debate. Anyway, no Nakagami Armor, no win for Erza.

 

[Love Cook]

The only armor that I'm thinking can hurt zoro is nakagami armor of erza. No amounts of durability can save you from something that can cut through time and space. With Zoro's massive speed advantage and pre cog it shouldn't be a problem to dodge to attack but an interesting factor nonetheless. Screwattack is bound to put this armor in the battle and let's see what they plan with this.

Yeah that is a pretty decent armor, and I guess in a fresh 1 v 1 fight where everything goes it's ok to use it. But Isn't that the armor she needed to unlock her second origin for ?

Can she just access that in this fight or will they just give it to her like you said?

 

[Main I]

I told you that is not how a fight plays out. The armor is just there to show the reader that there is a layer of protection. Hiro could've just as easily drawn a visor on but he didn't. Yet no one she fought went for the face. It's just a plot device to tell us now the same character is stronger. You might as well ask why is Zoro bothering with all the sword fighting if he would chop of a leg the fight would be over.

It just doesn't work out like that. If you're watching a hollywood action movie where the hero shot 500 guys before reaching the boss villain it will still end in a fist fight.

You can't just say Zoro will cut her face.

Besides Erza has armors that allow her to fly. So Zoro can't throw her around too much.

You also don't give her strength enough credit. Look at the video I posted a few pages back, she busts out of a giant floating island leaving an enormous hole. If she would use that on Pica it would have a similar result to what Zoro did.



Sorry little man, the real discussion has started again playtime is over.

You've long since been KIA on that front, though. Lol. From an objectively argumentative standpoint you've been hopelessly massacred.

Still, you're welcome to actually challenge my position with something other than "Well, you're just wrong, okay?!", if you feel the urge to- you know- follow basic debate procedure. Incrdulity simply isn't a refutation, champ.

 

[LitzSabr]

Yeah that is a pretty decent armor, and I guess in a fresh 1 v 1 fight where everything goes it's ok to use it. But Isn't that the armor she needed to unlock her second origin for ?

Can she just access that in this fight or will they just give it to her like you said?

No I don't know the conditions as to how she can access this armor. But if she can do it on her own no matter the limitations, it will be probably put in the fight.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

No I don't know the conditions as to how she can access this armor. But if she can do it on her own no matter the limitations, it will be probably put in the fight.

Well One Piece dominates FT when it comes to physical feats. 95% of FT attacks deal with magic while OP deals more with brute force. Erza fought a swordswoman named Ikaruga and she easily cut up every armor & weapon Erza dissed out. Even later in the series when Erza fought Kyouka, she destroyed one of Erza's best armors with one slash of her claw(she is top 40 strongest overall).

As for the Nakagami armor, all it does is defy the laws of magic aka making magic useless against her. It only be equipped once every 7 years but thats just Hiro's attempt at avoiding BS but it had the opposite effect. Its total BS. Against Zoro, its essentially regular armor.

 

[Love Cook]

You've long since been KIA on that front, though. Lol. From an objectively argumentative standpoint you've been hopelessly massacred.

Still, you're welcome to actually challenge my position with something other than "Well, you're just wrong, okay?!", if you feel the urge to- you know- follow basic debate procedure. Incrdulity simply isn't a refutation, champ.

dude, don't you get you've been trolled for 2 pages.

I just mocked your dumb numbers in my first post to you and your reply was just too good to leave it alone. I really don't care that much about a fictional fight man. cross overs are even forbidden for this exact reason. Just for this reason, because it never works.

But I'm really done with the pissing contest. The fact that you were rivaling yourself with a genius Mr. Turkey who arm wrestled a carny is pretty funny.

This is just fiction man, not a dick, don't take it so hard.