[Discussion] Do You Support The Death Penalty For Rape?
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Honord Sage
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Some places have a different way, they make a *** neutral Chinese style removing all sexual parts no Balls and rod you end up having to sit like a Woman to pee.
Not only does death seem an easy way out (considering they're more likely to suffer in prison), but sometimes you hear stories of fake rape allegations which have led to innocent men doing time and the 'victim' admitting she was lying years later.
With the death penalty, you'd have killed an innocent man. Rare cases, I know, but if it means saving one or two innocent people over a long period of time, it's better to not have it at all in my opinion.
With the death penalty, you'd have killed an innocent man. Rare cases, I know, but if it means saving one or two innocent people over a long period of time, it's better to not have it at all in my opinion.
Tantalus Thief
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no. Rape is a terrible thing to do but I don't think it deserves the death penalty. Of course, I have not or known anyone who has experienced it.
The Great Second Hokage
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Rape is awful but I believe that the death penalty should only be used when it comes to murder. If we were to use it for rape charges then where do we draw the line? Bernie Madoff screwed thousands of people out of their money and deeply hurt them....does he deserve to die by lethal injection? Where do we draw the line after that.
Punk Hazard
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If you ruin the sanctity of someone's life beyond repair, then you have given up the right to yours.
ComplexCity
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So you agree that bullies deserve the death penalty too right?
OT: No, they don't. No one has the right to determine who dies and who lives
You're essentially giving the victim the ability to indirectly and legally murder their alleged 'assaulter'.
What easier way to get rid of someone whom you hate of the opposite ***? Shout rape, and as soon as they're in line for a death sentence, their career, hopes and dreams are all over, aswell as any chance of future rebuttal that they might have had for their defence.
Rape crimes in Uni campuses in america usually arent thoroughly investigated, and they apply a "Guilty until proven innocent" approach.
With the death penalty in place the perpetrators wouldn't even be around to defend themselves once the jury has been made. Let alone be present to experience freedom, in the offchance that they are proven innocent in court post mortem.
There really is 0 good reasons to include the death penalty in any western country.
What easier way to get rid of someone whom you hate of the opposite ***? Shout rape, and as soon as they're in line for a death sentence, their career, hopes and dreams are all over, aswell as any chance of future rebuttal that they might have had for their defence.
Rape crimes in Uni campuses in america usually arent thoroughly investigated, and they apply a "Guilty until proven innocent" approach.
With the death penalty in place the perpetrators wouldn't even be around to defend themselves once the jury has been made. Let alone be present to experience freedom, in the offchance that they are proven innocent in court post mortem.
There really is 0 good reasons to include the death penalty in any western country.
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This seems like a slippery slope. Why do you assume that it is beyond repair? And even if it is, do you think it will 'help' these victims if we euthanize their rapist?
As someone said, should terrible bullies also be put to death? How about if I beat you within an inch of your life, so that you have to eat through a straw for the rest of your life. The sanctity of your life is ruined, but do I also deserve death?
Are you seriously comparing school bullies who shove your head into your locker to someone who violently rapes a woman? Refrain from that. What gives you the right to say no one has the right to determine who dies and lives? There are laws which citizens are meant to obey.
ComplexCity
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What's up with people on NB not reading anything?
You're using fallcious logic seeing as how bullying isn't just limited to kids and schools. Blackmail is also a form or bullying. Read what I quoted off of. Do bullies not mess up people's lives beyond repair?
You're using fallcious logic seeing as how bullying isn't just limited to kids and schools. Blackmail is also a form or bullying. Read what I quoted off of. Do bullies not mess up people's lives beyond repair?
How about no?
And I propose to you the same question
So let's throw people in jail for every law being broken then such as littering and jay walking.
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Are there non-violent rapes?
I don't understand why you think using government-sanctioned murder is the way forward in modern society. What kind of example does that set for future generations? That we're 'tough on crime' as you Americans say? Has that helped you? I thought you were against the prison industrial complex. Do you think it would be preferable to simply murder the murderers? Is that deliciously ironic enough that we should sanction it? Sanction doing the very thing we're punishing them for doing?
And for rape? It is a heinous crime, but the victim survives it. Should we help and support victims of rape? Absolutely. But I do not think that we help anyone by killing the offenders.
Since when is rape 'equal' to murder? How do you measure the 'size' of such a thing in the first place, and how can you compare murder, ending a life, to harming one? Like I asked Riker, if I beat you so that you become a cripple your life is equally ruined, if not more so, than a rape victim's. Do I deserve death? When, then, does it end?
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Once again apples to oranges, refrain from such comparisons. Any form of bullying that results in serious physical damage that is possibly fatal or life ending can be punished by death in my opinion. Dont propose me anything, answer the question.
Violence is the sense that it results in serious physical injuries such as broken facial or hand bones etc. Government sanctioned murder is the way forward in some instances because that is the established law of the jurisdictions and acts as a deterrent to other aspiring rapists. It says to the future generations don't rape a woman. Im against sending people to jail for smoking marijuana and doing hard drugs which sends alot of minorities blacks in particular in the usa to jail, but i am not opposed to severe punishment for rapists. Generally i would lean no, but based on the brutality i might agree with it. If you beat someone to death and they become cripple, you will be charged with attempted murder and may never see outside the prison walls till you die or old age,but yes in such instance i support the death penalty. I despise these thugs who think they can bully people with intimidation because they are physically stronger. Rape may even be worse than murder as you leave the woman in an emotional vegetative state for the rest of her life. Scarred for life.
I am not sure you really know how the laws or such punishments work at least in common law.
Well in that case, yes you should be at least charged for attempted murder. And if it can be established that you had every intention to inflict such severe injuries more so if it was just to prove how manly you are, at least you yourself don't deserve to ask that question. Whether you get a death penalty or just a jail.
You say that it is the way forward because it is the law? Like mandatory minimums and the harsh laws for crack cocaine versus powdered cocaine? Just because it is the law does not mean that it is just. We must follow the law, but we can strive to change them.
In my country, if you serve a life sentence you will get out on parole, on average, after 15-16 years. I think that is long enough, but there are some who do not get out because they have not been rehabilitated. I think that is far more just.
People change, they regret and they repent. A justice system should have room for that. That is the essence of justice to me. A life sentence here is something you only get for premeditated murder. Death is final, attempted murder, or rape, does not compare.
Emotionally vegetative state? People with terrible mental scars get up every morning and go to work, especially in the US. All people are different, but I do not believe that most women do not recover to some degree. Certainly there are scars, things that never go away, yet just as the veteran with PTSD bites his tongue on the 4th of July but still functions, so do I believe that victims of all sorts of assault, be it sexual or physical, recover to some degree. Murder is final, the rest we can - and should - help.
He might be European. Most of us have civil law.
I don't deserve to ask that question? That sounds vindictive and revenge has no place in criminal law.