[Predictions] Naruto Manga 502 Discussion and 503 Predictions

How good was this weeks manga?

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To reiterate, where does it say in the manga, or in one of Kishimoto's interviews, that Minato is the strongest Hokage? If any of you can find this evidence, then they will be correct. It is possible to fight an opinion, which I am doing - but it is near impossible to fight fact, and right now, I'm not seeing it. Like I said, if someone has evidence of the claim that the Fourth is the strongest of all Hokage, please bring it forward, and that will make my statements false.
here you are my friend
SJ:Theres many rumours regarding Madara as the final villain.is this true?

MK: Madara being the final villain yet to be seen and I can't let out that information just yet.But he will play a big part as a villain.

SJ: Now that its offcial that Yondaime is Naruto's father will you show more of him?

MK: Yes definetely.I actually wanted to reveal more about Yondaime earlier but other characters were in development and some fights had to be dealt with.

SJ: While we're at it could you please tell us if Minato was the strongest Shinobi that ever lived?

MK: Hmmm...thats a tricky question.As far as dead Shinobi's goes then yes.He's the strongest.I'd say that Sandaime shares the number one spot with him.As far as living Shinobi's goes...well without giving out too many details I'd have to say no.There's a couple of Shinobi's stronger than him.

SJ: Now that Itachi seems to be dead what is Kisame going to do?

MK: Kisame has always come off as a sidevillain whose only purpose was to travel alongside Itachi.But to my surprise Kisame has gone from an unpopular character to someone whose more popular than Deidara after the Gai-fight.
I won't say much but Kisame is a character that wont die any time soon.I will definetely develop on his character and possibly make him....

SJ: Make him what?

MK: Thats a surprise.

I can find more if required but I prefer not to
 

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minato fight is shit fu and toru also fight with madara and better than 4th kage!!!
minato hit madara with rasengun (kamehame) again that booring tech....and that coffin kabuto summoned... is not 4th kage.... bcz kabuto said: dont worry i wont tell anyone about this........ SO THATS mean in the coffin KISHIMOTO MASASHI!!!! :D or madara another body or madara brother... hell i dont know.... but sure not minato.... and why win the speed minato? of corse bcz he is kage and minato naruto father... kishimoto dont want write minato like weak kage who didnt hit madara thats why.......
sempai, kishi cannot be summoned by impure summoning or its just this kind of low level of power, why? because he is the creator of this ninja world that we live in today... it can be MJ or elviz but not kishi... :D:D hmmmmm
 

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Right... something seems od... may be a minor thing... But in the flash back with madara and itachi... (before Uchiha was wiped out) Madara had much longer hair... like his old self... just with the mask... This one however.. he has short hair...

Plus Madara said "oh I wouldn't say that" about Madara being dead... I have now a strong feeling... tobi/madara are possibly 2 seperate ppl... Something is well off!
this may be strange but in the naruto unvierse there are many demons yes i am including the movies and fillers

but yeah

i think its random for fugaku and mikto to just leave there kids all alone
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unless they are gunna fight with minato

i think tobi is a fusion of 2 ppl
dont know y ts fuagaku
and i think fugaku even tricked his own son itachi
thinking he was dead also mikoto
it could also be fugakus pop i dont know all iknow is its strange andit may be madra @ the same time it may be not then again
since we know orochimaru got a kinjutsu that belonged to the second its possible that the life transfer jutsu belonged 2 madara & it had 2 be used once in the life time to even be recorded in the scroll of seals or well in the anime where 113 or 112 shippuden where orochimaru 1st finds that kinjutsu
 

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here you are my friend
SJ:Theres many rumours regarding Madara as the final villain.is this true?

MK: Madara being the final villain yet to be seen and I can't let out that information just yet.But he will play a big part as a villain.

SJ: Now that its offcial that Yondaime is Naruto's father will you show more of him?

MK: Yes definetely.I actually wanted to reveal more about Yondaime earlier but other characters were in development and some fights had to be dealt with.

SJ: While we're at it could you please tell us if Minato was the strongest Shinobi that ever lived?

MK: Hmmm...thats a tricky question.As far as dead Shinobi's goes then yes.He's the strongest.I'd say that Sandaime shares the number one spot with him.As far as living Shinobi's goes...well without giving out too many details I'd have to say no.There's a couple of Shinobi's stronger than him.

SJ: Now that Itachi seems to be dead what is Kisame going to do?

MK: Kisame has always come off as a sidevillain whose only purpose was to travel alongside Itachi.But to my surprise Kisame has gone from an unpopular character to someone whose more popular than Deidara after the Gai-fight.
I won't say much but Kisame is a character that wont die any time soon.I will definetely develop on his character and possibly make him....

SJ: Make him what?

MK: Thats a surprise.

I can find more if required but I prefer not to
AWESOME dude please can you tell me where did you get this interview:D
 

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i have a bad feeling that the father of itachi is the one behind this mask... omg! my heart is pounding... please dont twist this story kishi that will come up to this guess, this was all illusion created by his father that he really died on that night of massacre...

people live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. thats how they define reality. but
what does it mean to be correct or true? merely vague concepts... their reality may all be mirage...
can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shape by their beliefs? "itachi sama"
 

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i have a bad feeling that the father of itachi is the one behind this mask... omg! my heart is pounding... please dont twist this story kishi that will come up to this guess, this was all illusion created by his father that he really died on that night of massacre...

people live their lives bound by what they accept as correct and true. thats how they define reality. but
what does it mean to be correct or true? merely vague concepts... their reality may all be mirage...
can we consider them to simply be living in their own world, shape by their beliefs? "itachi sama"
Well Fugaku or whatever his name was, he was the leader of the Police Force so he must have been strong true. But the masked guy was already with Itachi on that night, also Itachi had already awakened his Mangekyou by killing Shisui so I don't think any genjutsu would have been successful against him. I still don't know may be Itachi's parents were part of Madara's plan but for now it seems unlikely. At least I can say this that the masked man is not Itachi's father.
 

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here you are my friend
SJ:Theres many rumours regarding Madara as the final villain.is this true?

MK: Madara being the final villain yet to be seen and I can't let out that information just yet.But he will play a big part as a villain.

SJ: Now that its offcial that Yondaime is Naruto's father will you show more of him?

MK: Yes definetely.I actually wanted to reveal more about Yondaime earlier but other characters were in development and some fights had to be dealt with.

SJ: While we're at it could you please tell us if Minato was the strongest Shinobi that ever lived?

MK: Hmmm...thats a tricky question.As far as dead Shinobi's goes then yes.He's the strongest.I'd say that Sandaime shares the number one spot with him.As far as living Shinobi's goes...well without giving out too many details I'd have to say no.There's a couple of Shinobi's stronger than him.

SJ: Now that Itachi seems to be dead what is Kisame going to do?

MK: Kisame has always come off as a sidevillain whose only purpose was to travel alongside Itachi.But to my surprise Kisame has gone from an unpopular character to someone whose more popular than Deidara after the Gai-fight.
I won't say much but Kisame is a character that wont die any time soon.I will definetely develop on his character and possibly make him....

SJ: Make him what?

MK: Thats a surprise.

I can find more if required but I prefer not to

There you go my friend mr silenceofthelambs ;) you can't argue with That? Or if you say that it is a fake ... Then you just dont Want to believe it !
 

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here you are my friend
SJ:Theres many rumours regarding Madara as the final villain.is this true?

MK: Madara being the final villain yet to be seen and I can't let out that information just yet.But he will play a big part as a villain.

SJ: Now that its offcial that Yondaime is Naruto's father will you show more of him?

MK: Yes definetely.I actually wanted to reveal more about Yondaime earlier but other characters were in development and some fights had to be dealt with.

SJ: While we're at it could you please tell us if Minato was the strongest Shinobi that ever lived?

MK: Hmmm...thats a tricky question.As far as dead Shinobi's goes then yes.He's the strongest.I'd say that Sandaime shares the number one spot with him.As far as living Shinobi's goes...well without giving out too many details I'd have to say no.There's a couple of Shinobi's stronger than him.

SJ: Now that Itachi seems to be dead what is Kisame going to do?

MK: Kisame has always come off as a sidevillain whose only purpose was to travel alongside Itachi.But to my surprise Kisame has gone from an unpopular character to someone whose more popular than Deidara after the Gai-fight.
I won't say much but Kisame is a character that wont die any time soon.I will definetely develop on his character and possibly make him....

SJ: Make him what?

MK: Thats a surprise.

I can find more if required but I prefer not to

This is the interview I talked about. Thank you for finding it out and post it here. For those that has no clues, SJ means Shonen Jump, the publisher of Naruto.

But still as I pointed out earlier, where is the sage of six paths place? 1st & 2nd Hokage were positively dead, so the 4th is stronger than them. If the 3rd is equally as strong as the 4th, than logicly the full powered Madara was no match for the 3rd & 4th also, let alone the much weakened Madara. Unles Madara has recovered and upgraded his strength beyond his strength when he fought the 1st.

@silenceofthelambs I got a report by google that said in the pass few hours there are queries of millions wording that all asking about Kishi interview all from the same IP. I think that's you.

Please, don't be mad. I'm just joking. Like I said it's up to Kishi, we never know.
 
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If i remember correctly Kakashi has that special knife
The forth gave it to him as a graduation gift when he became a juion (sorry about spelling) so it is quite possible for Naruto to learn that tech BUT even tho it would be sweet to see it i think it'll be hax cause he could have a clone army with a bunch of knives or sage it with 3 and just pwn all lol
But i do not see how he "sees threw everything I did" as the 4th said maybe kishi is building up minato to show just how bad ass he was and the instant rasengan was epic lol just throw knife and pwnd lol
"That Jutsu" your talking about was a futton rasenshriken he was practicing in the mountians with sage mode ...
I am also wondering If the 4th was truly the most epic ninja then how could the first pwn madara at full strength and the 4th possibly have so much trouble with him ?
And kabuto seems to know something about tobi/madara with that coffin he summond and made tobi/madara shit himself ... any thoughts on this ?
Plus it looks like it maybe 2 different people as tobi's/ Madara's mask is different in the battle against the 4th for me anyways the pattern on it is different what do you think ?
"that jutsu" isnt the futton rasenshirken coz naruto didnt know anything about that until kakashi trained him. nd the 1st hokage has fought midara a lot more times than minato has so the 1st hokage would no how to counter him, minato has done well just from his first encounter with madara
 

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When did I say I dislike him? It's just that, many times, his status is hyped up to these absurd levels that are unnecessary. I mean, he is not the strongest Shinobi in history, nor is he the strongest Hokage. The manga has told us that the first three Hokages are among the strongest, while no one in the manga has stated that Minato is the most powerful of the Hokages. Had he lived longer, he would have been able to come close to these titles, but fact remains he didn't. However, he is an incredible ninja, with great physical speed that many cannot match.

Everyone has the right to carry preference for a certain character, and I suppose Minato is not that person. Still, it doesn't change my opinion of him - he is without a doubt a powerful ninja, who has high intelligence, with a certain aura that not many have. And his speed only adds on to that.
how come kakashi says the only person that can surpass the 4th is naruto so that basically states that the 4th hokage has to be the strongest
 

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how come kakashi says the only person that can surpass the 4th is naruto so that basically states that the 4th hokage has to be the strongest

Kakashi says that because Naruto is his son. And Kishi writes things that suggest characters are the strongest all the time. He had Iruka state that the 3rd was the strongest Hokage to ever live, meaning he was stronger than Minato. Whether or not that's true is up for debate.

But if what Jinchuriki of the Jubi posted before (the interview) is real, then I guess the 3rd and Minato are equal.

I actually really want to see the 3rd fight the Kyuubi. :p
 

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how come kakashi says the only person that can surpass the 4th is naruto so that basically states that the 4th hokage has to be the strongest
Well someone already mentioned that it is because Naruto is his son may be true but ever since the start of the manga we have somewhat understood that Naruto becoming the greatest Hokage of all time is to surpass the hero the 4th Hokage. Also in that interview Kishi said that 3rd and 4th were equal which is most likely the case. Just think the 3rd almost took Oro who was at his prime while the 3rd was most probably at his weakest time since becoming Hokage just amazing.
 

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Kakashi says that because Naruto is his son. And Kishi writes things that suggest characters are the strongest all the time. He had Iruka state that the 3rd was the strongest Hokage to ever live, meaning he was stronger than Minato. Whether or not that's true is up for debate.

But if what Jinchuriki of the Jubi posted before (the interview) is real, then I guess the 3rd and Minato are equal.

I actually really want to see the 3rd fight the Kyuubi. :p
In the interview it was said that 3rd and 4th were equally the strongest so it makes sense
 

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True, but if the manga begins to contradict itself too many times, the entire story becomes disheveled. So it's important that statements characters make not come into conflict with ones others make as well. I don't know, but based on the evidence I've seen so far, it just doesn't sound like people consider Minato as the strongest Hokage of Konohakagure.

As long as the contradiction are characters' opinions, then it's OK. It certainly reflects real life, opinions are not facts. Come to think about it, the reason we gathered here discussing Naruto manga is because this manga is so incredible, it makes us research, talk, discuss, predict both what has happened or what will come. Now imagine if all the characters make the same statements then I think Naruto manga will only last 1 volume, we won't bother we will know what next.
 

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what in gods name are you babbling about?I simply stated that if kishi actually says minato is the strongest hokage then the would mean it is fact.I never said he was the strongest ninja of all time....and first of all it is common knowledge naruto will surpass him(if he hasn't already)so don't patronize me.secondly who ever said he was strongest ninja of that time?and to be honest I could not find one point you were trying to prove in this post?it is incoherent and hardly makes sense.if you have something to say repost it so I can actually understand the point you are making
Sorry for my unclearity ...
What i was pointing out was Kishi or not (some are faked)... it seems he forgets a few things and leads fans on ... so you can't take it as gospel what he says ... People have there favorites the 4th has alot of hype and is badass i agree but he did die fighting a shell of madara and kyubii where as the frist just took names and kicked ass lol against a full power madara with a kyubi summon ... so i mean kishi has said the 4th was the strongest at the time but in all honesty i'd say the first was the bomb ... people will have there oppions cause those are like *******s everyone has one lol and they won't change it so as i have said they where Hokage for a reason and i leave it at that
I hope that clears up a bit of what i was saying if not let me know ...
 

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here you are my friend
SJ:Theres many rumours regarding Madara as the final villain.is this true?

MK: Madara being the final villain yet to be seen and I can't let out that information just yet.But he will play a big part as a villain.

SJ: Now that its offcial that Yondaime is Naruto's father will you show more of him?

MK: Yes definetely.I actually wanted to reveal more about Yondaime earlier but other characters were in development and some fights had to be dealt with.

SJ: While we're at it could you please tell us if Minato was the strongest Shinobi that ever lived?

MK: Hmmm...thats a tricky question.As far as dead Shinobi's goes then yes.He's the strongest.I'd say that Sandaime shares the number one spot with him.As far as living Shinobi's goes...well without giving out too many details I'd have to say no.There's a couple of Shinobi's stronger than him.

SJ: Now that Itachi seems to be dead what is Kisame going to do?

MK: Kisame has always come off as a sidevillain whose only purpose was to travel alongside Itachi.But to my surprise Kisame has gone from an unpopular character to someone whose more popular than Deidara after the Gai-fight.
I won't say much but Kisame is a character that wont die any time soon.I will definetely develop on his character and possibly make him....

SJ: Make him what?

MK: Thats a surprise.

I can find more if required but I prefer not to
Thank you. And no, you don't have to find anymore, this is all I need. Apparently Kishimoto says that the two strongest Shinobi, who are dead, are the Third Hokage and the Fourth Hokage. Well, if Kishimoto says it, then I'll have to agree with him.

If indeed the Fourth is one of the two most powerful deceased Shinobi, why would he have such a problem defeating a weakened Madara, when the First Hokage defeated the same opponent in his prime alongside the Nine-Tailed Fox? Even still, if Kishimoto says Minato is one of the best dead ninja in the Naruto world, then that's how it is.
 

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There you go my friend mr silenceofthelambs ;) you can't argue with That? Or if you say that it is a fake ... Then you just dont Want to believe it !
I can't, and I'm not going to. Don't worry, I'm not going to say it's a fake...the interview seemed real anyway; when people try to create fake interviews, most of the time they forget that the one being questioned does not like to reveal too many details about where he is going with a certain project, to keep the public on its toes. And when these false interviews are made, they have "Kishimoto" revealing large details about the story that he would never do in such a thing as this, and then discerning between a real and fake interview becomes rather easy.
 

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It was easier for Madara that way. He did not approach Kushina, Minato, and Naruto with the intention of killing them all - he wanted the Nine-Tailed Fox, and the method of operating he used was the most efficient in removing Minato for a duration of time that would allow Madara to carry on with his plans.

Besides, consider that Madara, a "mere shell of [his] former self," is taking on a fully-powered Minato. If Madara were at full strength, the results would be much different. Madara would overpower Minato in a matter of minutes - even in his weakened state, he pushed Minato to his limit fairly quickly, and Minato with a clever strategy, managed to gain the upper hand in the first part of their fight.
Ok 1 question why are you making an assumption that he would over power minato and full strength easily. I'm starting to think you don't like the guy and giving Madara too much praise
 

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"that jutsu" isnt the futton rasenshirken coz naruto didnt know anything about that until kakashi trained him. nd the 1st hokage has fought midara a lot more times than minato has so the 1st hokage would no how to counter him, minato has done well just from his first encounter with madara
... then i'm assuming we are talking about that gift which itachi gave him ... and i think from history they fought once to the "death" due to the hatred between the bloodlines of the sons of SO6P just like sasuke and Naruto r pitted for the same type of battle (according to madara) yes the 4th is badass not saying he isn't just saying there has been Hokages over the years who r equally badass can't say ones uber and the other wasn't ... cause even 4th said last chapter nidaime was better at space time then he is ... so my point is they are a hokage for a reason :)
correction i re-read it and they did have more then one fight i m sorry :s
 
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Thank you. And no, you don't have to find anymore, this is all I need. Apparently Kishimoto says that the two strongest Shinobi, who are dead, are the Third Hokage and the Fourth Hokage. Well, if Kishimoto says it, then I'll have to agree with him.

If indeed the Fourth is one of the two most powerful deceased Shinobi, why would he have such a problem defeating a weakened Madara, when the First Hokage defeated the same opponent in his prime alongside the Nine-Tailed Fox? Even still, if Kishimoto says Minato is one of the best dead ninja in the Naruto world, then that's how it is.
lol, you guys are noobs, didn't you guys know this was an april fools joke??? this entire interview is fake. I know this because I remember exactly when it happened, BECAUSE MY BIRTHDAY IS APRIL FOOLS.
 
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