[Predictions] Naruto Manga 502 Discussion and 503 Predictions

[knealis]

SilenceOfTheLambs --> Dude u sure do know a crap load about Naruto (the manga as a whole) and are damn quick with ur link finding. Kudos!

I have a possible theory on "that jutsu". I think they might be the same (FTG and "That Jutsu"), and naruto might be able to perfect it without using the Kunai and seals. This might be a bit of a stretch, but when in sage mode naruto can detect the chakra levels of the people around him (don't really know his radius of affect). So maybe, he might be able to use that ability in conjunction with FTG to teleport ANYWHERE on the battlefield within his sensing range. this way he won't need the Kunai as long as his destination is within his sphere of influence (and while in sage mode). Just a thought

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As i'll reiterate we have never seen 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or madara in their prime in battle so we cant really judge their strengths. However, I think that, since each generation surpasses the previous one, Minato would have been stronger than the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd IF he survived. The reason i say this is because, for example, the 3rd was taught by the 1st and 2nd so he learned all their jutsu (not necessarily the case with most shinobi, but the 3rd being the exception) and then possibly creating his own. And then he did the same with his students. However, If the 1st and 4th were born at the same time and taught by the same master, the 4th might win with his uber speed, but we can never say for sure.

Minato was the youngest Hokage ever so i think that's a testament to his potentail BAMFness lol. I tell u what though i would love to see them all duke it out in the afterlife (although poor minato won't be there seeing as he is stuck in the Death God's Stomach fighting the ninetails yin? chakra)

this is only like my 5th or 6th post so could i get some feedback about what you think of my theories?

Thanks

 

[minatoisagod]

True, but if the manga begins to contradict itself too many times, the entire story becomes disheveled. So it's important that statements characters make not come into conflict with ones others make as well. I don't know, but based on the evidence I've seen so far, it just doesn't sound like people consider Minato as the strongest Hokage of Konohakagure.

To me the story is already like that. I mean didn't major characters like Kakashi say that the sharingan was derived from the byakugan that was contradicted. Some one said the 1 tail was a dead priest and some bull that was also refuted so what the Anbu Iruka and others say can also be refuted i mean its Kishi's manga if he wants the 4th to be the strongest he can reconed everyone and make it so. So thats why i said don't get too caught up in characters opinions

 

[apple pie of doom]

Well, all I know is that madara is probably uninjured.
People might say minato is the strongest ev4hr p10x h4xxicatorx, like all noobs, but lets face it, Madara can easily defeat him probably.
The 1st is probably weaker in normal terms than the 4th, but, the 1st probably possessed some ability to counter madara's abilities.
Therefore I say none is superior, they are all strong, but it depends on who is fighting who.
As for now I am 100% sure Madara defeats Minato, as Minato himself put, '' he read all my moves''.
Wich can point ount Minato had no way to counter the sharingan, or perhaps something else.

 

[Itachi Sama]

I wonder who could be such a downer as to give a rate of 1 to this manga.

I hope there aren't any more doubts surrounding Tobi's identity. He is Uchija Madara. If you had my eyes then you could probably see his chakra...

 

[KaedaUchiha]

That was awesome! i laughed so hard at when Itachi said he was going to protect Sasuke no matter what, because its so true yet such a lie!! Man i also laughed when Anbu Kakashi was talking to Guy, who wasn't wearing his jounin vest and i thought he was Lee XD lolz. That made me think, Kakashi and Guy can't be too old now. In shippuden, Kakashi is 30 years old. So when the nine tails attacked he was about between ages 13 to 16 somewhere. Wow! He did look pretty young ^^ lolz

 

[a3111830]

After reading this week's manga I have come to the realization that, the Uchiha clan was killed off for no reason @ all. Ill Explain in a moment.

Notice how Madara did not want the 4th hokage to go and tell the 3rd about the events that took place last chapter. I have a strong feeling that the 4th's last words to the 3rd might have been "Uchiha" which would trigger a whole chain of events in the years to come.

The 3rd hokage becoming increasingly suspicious of the uchiha and the uchiha no longer trusting the 3rd since he segregated them to a small portion of the village. So they decide to destroy the leaf before the leaf destroys them. Little do they realize that it was all madara's doing the uchiha clan did not have anything to do with the attack.

Call me crazy but that's my theory regarding the events of the uchiha extermination.

 

[shikablu]

Ok yes there are alot of things to the second hokage and I see everyone forgot about that sword he had too, during sasuke and naruto's last mission together against the rain ninja. And not to mention the 2nd hokage can use genjutsu, he did against the 3rd! But the bottom line is the 3rd hokage is the strongest ninja ever. Its been said several times: Iruka said he was the strongest of all hokages and orochimaru even said Hiruzen was praised as the god of all ninja

 

[Hatrage21]

Well maybe its a bit out of topic but as i was checking some first episode and manga in naruto i notice:

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The idea which naruto come up to kill those 2 it reminds me the flying thunder god which the 4th used in this chapter(502) vs madara xD.In anime is the naruto episode 13 btw

 

[FlyingThunderGod]

When did I say I dislike him? It's just that, many times, his status is hyped up to these absurd levels that are unnecessary. I mean, he is not the strongest Shinobi in history, nor is he the strongest Hokage. The manga has told us that the first three Hokages are among the strongest, while no one in the manga has stated that Minato is the most powerful of the Hokages. Had he lived longer, he would have been able to come close to these titles, but fact remains he didn't. However, he is an incredible ninja, with great physical speed that many cannot match.

Everyone has the right to carry preference for a certain character, and I suppose Minato is not that person. Still, it doesn't change my opinion of him - he is without a doubt a powerful ninja, who has high intelligence, with a certain aura that not many have. And his speed only adds on to that.

First of i'm new here, finally decided to sign-up. Nice to meet all of you blah blah blah.

Secondly, I am rating this chapter a 5/5. Great chapter, great action.

Thirdly, @silenceofthelambs, Kishi in one of his previous interviews stated that Minato the 4th Hokage was the strongest of all the other Kages. So if the author/writer says that Minato is the strongest kage than, with all due respect, your statements about him (Minato) not being the strongest are ALL in vain. Sorry dude.

 

[yondaimeminato]

it's not the manga contradicting itself, it's your beliefs, my beliefs that differ from kishi's belief. From 1/32 theories one might be right. We all have different way of looking at things. We all have different opinions and right now, I am sure you are seeing the naruto chapter differently from what I am seeing. This is what makes naruto series so debatable. There is only one master mind here and that's kishi. He has his own way of thinking, belief, idealism etc.

This is why we are not no one to say whether something is right or not. We can only wait for kishi to solve our questions or make assumptions. No matter how much you know naruto manga, there will still be twists and you will still be wrong.

this is why some people get mad and say "wtf but this is what should have happened".

 

[yondaimeminato]

First of i'm new here, finally decided to sign-up. Nice to meet all of you blah blah blah.

Secondly, I am rating this chapter a 5/5. Great chapter, great action.

Thirdly, @silenceofthelambs, Kishi in one of his previous interviews stated that Minato the 4th Hokage was the strongest of all the other Kages. So if the author/writer says that Minato is the strongest kage than, with all due respect, your statements about him (Minato) not being the strongest are ALL in vain. Sorry dude.

welcome

 

[Hatrage21]

First of i'm new here, finally decided to sign-up. Nice to meet all of you blah blah blah.

Secondly, I am rating this chapter a 5/5. Great chapter, great action.

Thirdly, @silenceofthelambs, Kishi in one of his previous interviews stated that Minato the 4th Hokage was the strongest of all the other Kages. So if the author/writer says that Minato is the strongest kage than, with all due respect, your statements about him (Minato) not being the strongest are ALL in vain. Sorry dude.

Welcome m8

 

[Steinbiz]

Well, all I know is that madara is probably uninjured.
People might say minato is the strongest ev4hr p10x h4xxicatorx, like all noobs, but lets face it, Madara can easily defeat him probably.
The 1st is probably weaker in normal terms than the 4th, but, the 1st probably possessed some ability to counter madara's abilities.
Therefore I say none is superior, they are all strong, but it depends on who is fighting who.
As for now I am 100% sure Madara defeats Minato, as Minato himself put, '' he read all my moves''.
Wich can point ount Minato had no way to counter the sharingan, or perhaps something else.

hmm I do agree with you on the fact that this show isn't like DBZ. And I keep telling people this "A>B>C=A>C" isn't true in naruto like it is in DBZ. naruto logic is more based on "rock-paper-scissors".

for example: 1st>Madara>Itachi>Orochimaru>3rd but 3rd>1st? 3rd technically defeated 1st and 2nd while Orochiamru was attacking him periodically and 3rd wasn't even in his prime. granted he gave his life to beat them, but still.

But I have to disagree with Minato "losing" to Madara. He might have told Naruto "he saw through everything I did" but that could just as easily mean "he knew I would take naruto back so he could escape with kushina. he knew the basics of my FTG."

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

First of i'm new here, finally decided to sign-up. Nice to meet all of you blah blah blah.

Secondly, I am rating this chapter a 5/5. Great chapter, great action.

Thirdly, @silenceofthelambs, Kishi in one of his previous interviews stated that Minato the 4th Hokage was the strongest of all the other Kages. So if the author/writer says that Minato is the strongest kage than, with all due respect, your statements about him (Minato) not being the strongest are ALL in vain. Sorry dude.

welcome buddy and nice post I happen to go on the same beliefs.I mean who would know better then kishi right?exactly.an opinion vs kishis hey I made this manga and I say the 4th is strongest=minato IS the strongest hokage.some try to fight this fact but they honestly need to fully realize what it truly is.a fact.

 

[minato4th]

"The next generation will always surpass the previous one. It's one of the never-ending cycles in life." (Kakashi Hatake)

 

[big nebulus]

i want to see how it ends the fight before minato went back to konoha to fight and seal the kyuubi to his son but then again, madara was not there to kill or stop minato while he's busy sealing the kyuubi. was madara beaten or just watching the scene like he always does?

I think ultimately, Minato is stronger than Madara. Why else would Madara use Naruto as a pawn to get Minato away from Kushina? If he could easily defeat him, then why not do it the same way he defeated the Anbu guards? I think Madara realized he couldn't beat him and used other tactics. As you say, what was Madara doing while Minato sealed the Kyubbi in Naruto? I think if not for Kushina and Naruto, Minato would have waxed Madara.

 

[big nebulus]

Ok yes there are alot of things to the second hokage and I see everyone forgot about that sword he had too, during sasuke and naruto's last mission together against the rain ninja. And not to mention the 2nd hokage can use genjutsu, he did against the 3rd! But the bottom line is the 3rd hokage is the strongest ninja ever. Its been said several times: Iruka said he was the strongest of all hokages and orochimaru even said Hiruzen was praised as the god of all ninja

Yeah, but think about how young the 4th was when he died? Had he stayed alive, he would have surely grown stronger and surpassed anyone by far.

 

[big nebulus]

SilenceOfTheLambs --> Dude u sure do know a crap load about Naruto (the manga as a whole) and are damn quick with ur link finding. Kudos!

I have a possible theory on "that jutsu". I think they might be the same (FTG and "That Jutsu"), and naruto might be able to perfect it without using the Kunai and seals. This might be a bit of a stretch, but when in sage mode naruto can detect the chakra levels of the people around him (don't really know his radius of affect). So maybe, he might be able to use that ability in conjunction with FTG to teleport ANYWHERE on the battlefield within his sensing range. this way he won't need the Kunai as long as his destination is within his sphere of influence (and while in sage mode). Just a thought

BEWARE: Personal Opinion in 3...

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As i'll reiterate we have never seen 1st, 2nd, 3rd, or madara in their prime in battle so we cant really judge their strengths. However, I think that, since each generation surpasses the previous one, Minato would have been stronger than the 1st, 2nd, or 3rd IF he survived. The reason i say this is because, for example, the 3rd was taught by the 1st and 2nd so he learned all their jutsu (not necessarily the case with most shinobi, but the 3rd being the exception) and then possibly creating his own. And then he did the same with his students. However, If the 1st and 4th were born at the same time and taught by the same master, the 4th might win with his uber speed, but we can never say for sure.

Minato was the youngest Hokage ever so i think that's a testament to his potentail BAMFness lol. I tell u what though i would love to see them all duke it out in the afterlife (although poor minato won't be there seeing as he is stuck in the Death God's Stomach fighting the ninetails yin? chakra)

this is only like my 5th or 6th post so could i get some feedback about what you think of my theories?

Thanks

Like the idea of a Battle Royale. Idea of Naruto having that ability, a bit far fetched. If he did, he would've used it against Pain. Sorry bruh, keep the posts coming though!

 

[Koo]

WOW! i love how the third doesn't sit on his bumb even though he's retired! he takes action!

also minato said in a thought caption that this mans time space jutsu was greater than his and the second hokages... the second hokage can summon water out of nothing, use edo tensei AND had knowledge of time space jutsu!? what a badass

 

[dickfor]

You can't really argue who is the strongest ninja or hokage based on what characters in the manga have said. The characters in the manga have backgrounds and opinions too, aka everything they say isn't necessarily factual in the naruto world. I don't think there is any one strongest ninja or hokage considering they each have their own unique skill sets and advantages in battle.