[Predictions] Naruto Manga 502 Discussion and 503 Predictions
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nice chapter.
of course minato didnt won, otherwise the fox would have disappeared and would never have been sealed in naruto. the only possibility for the sealing is that minato believes he cant win, what's exactly what he expressed in the dialogue with naruto.
apart from that minato's action was sooo obvious, madara should have seen it coming. especially because he knows that minato can teleport to seals.
of course minato didnt won, otherwise the fox would have disappeared and would never have been sealed in naruto. the only possibility for the sealing is that minato believes he cant win, what's exactly what he expressed in the dialogue with naruto.
apart from that minato's action was sooo obvious, madara should have seen it coming. especially because he knows that minato can teleport to seals.
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you don't really need to be born with special power like those kekkai genkai. Minato has special power and that's flying god thunder jutsu. kekkai genkai person would easily be taken to another dimension with madara/tobi/masked man's power even if he had special powers. Right now, naruto has a special power of the nine tail demon but he can easily be taken to another dimension by madara/tobi/masked man.
Madara/tobi/masked man's goal wasn't killing Minato. His plan was to destroy konoha. Right now, madara/tobi/masked man doesn't even know that minato can seal the nine tail demon fox. Why do you think, he keeps saying "it's too late now". He thinks that the nine tail demon can not be stopped.
Madara/tobi/masked man is trying hard to keep minato out of the nine tail demon fox. If madara/tobi/masked man would have won the fight then he wouldn't have let minato seal the nine tail demon fox into naruto. After all, madara/tobi/masked man waited a longgggggggg time just so that the seal could be weakened. Now putting the nine tail demon fox into naruto, it would make impossible for madara/tobi/masked man to take out the nine tail demon out of the seal since this time, the nine tail demon was seal into a male. I don't know why you keep thinking that madara/tobi/masked man have won.
If someone retreats from a fight, that's an automatic lost. Madara/tobi/masked man had to retreat from minato so that minato can seal of nine tail demon into his son.
and madara/tobi/masked man can do this by teleporting back to his base with his jutsu so it's nearly impossible to kill him even if minato would have been able to follow madara/tobi/masked man, the nine tail demon would have left no trace of konoha.
the choices were:
going after madara/tobi/masked man or taking care of the nine tail demon fox
he chose to take care of the nine tail demon fox
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Well minato does something amazing soon, u cant just use the death god seal in a matter of seconds, he didnt have and bruises or exhausted marks on his face, unless madara makes him fight in a dimension where time is stopped and minato buys some time
Man, I've always thought that the second hokage was one of the weakest hokage, but after this chapter i'm not so sure about it. We knew that his talent were water techiniques, like a sort of water sage, but now after these few chapters, i'm gonna believe he's even stronger than the third. Being the creater of Edo Tensei AND use space/time jutsu's, It looks like Kishi is trying to make the characters we didn't knew much of, much stronger!
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silenceofthelambs
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It's amusing when you make yourself look so stupid, honestly. You know, I recognize the fact that you all you want is someone who agrees with your patronizing points of view. You don't care to have a good discussion with somebody, all you want to do is attempt to make others look bad when they don't agree with you, when you are displaying yourself as one of the most childish and obnoxious users on this forum.
If Minato wins this battle, will it satisfy that inflated ego of yours? Because it seems like that's all you've wanted from this manga. Your favorite character, who you have a clear obsession for, winning a battle against another. I suppose if you act like an immature, arrogant person, that's how you have to be treated.
Your words: "IN YOUR FACE MADARA FANBOYS!" Ask yourself, who's the real "fanboy" here? Everyone has the right to have a preference for a certain character, but they don't have to go flaunting it around like you do. You've proven nothing. You are trying to invade other peoples' points of view, while forcing everyone to accept yours - check the thread you made, "Minato vs. Madara;" you'll find out what I mean. It takes courage to stand up and defend your point of view, but it takes an equal amount of, if not more, courage to sit down and listen.
Well one thing is for certain... Naruto will have to either learn the hiraishin and upgrade it like the rasengan.. or invent a better space-time tech of his own to fight on the same level as Madara. There's no point of unlimited chakra and S-rank jutsus if they would never connect.
Secondly... It is quite obvious that Minato didn't beat Madara. Madara is still alive and Minato didn't manage to kill him like he wanted. What probably will happen is that the Rasengan connected and damaged Madara and he teleports away to heal. Then Minato seals away the Kyuubi and dies himself.
Secondly... It is quite obvious that Minato didn't beat Madara. Madara is still alive and Minato didn't manage to kill him like he wanted. What probably will happen is that the Rasengan connected and damaged Madara and he teleports away to heal. Then Minato seals away the Kyuubi and dies himself.
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silenceofthelambs
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Mad? I recommend you look at the one who is angry in this situation. Yes, Minato is winning the battle right now - that is evidence of the manga, and I must adhere to it. However, a question for you: when Naruto hit Kabuto with his Rasengan, essentially defeating him, did that prove Naruto was more powerful than Kabuto? No. It simply showed that Naruto had an oppurtunity, like Minato did, and took good advantage of it.
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Besides, who says the battle between Minato and Madara is over? Minato might be winning now, but most fights in the Naruto manga span a greater length than just one chapter, especially one containing two powerful characters such as these. As I said in an earlier post, you attempt to destroy others' opinions, and force yours down their throats. It does not work that way. If you have an argument, respect the other side's position, which you fail to do. Insulting a person will only show how low one is willing to go to get their message across, often times because they feel it is a sign of a losing battle.
Let's just wait and see how things really end up, instead of jumping to absurd conclusions. What comes around goes around, no matter how far it must go to come full circle.
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Even still, both used the element of surprise. No matter how slow a person is, it will give them a temporary advantage, don't you agree? If Konohamaru were to approach Madara from behind, threatening to slam a Rasengan into his back, the person being attacked would automatically be put on the defensive.
Of course, we still don't know how Minato's attack is going to affect Madara. Minato himself said that it would be risky for Madara to attack at all, so I don't see a reason for Madara to approach Minato directly at the end of the chapter without a plan as to counterattack in some form. Could Madara have made his body permeable right at the last second, avoiding the full power of the attack? Might it have been an earth clone, as Madara's affinity is the element earth? Did the attack really connect? All three are possible, but it's highly probable the fight is nowhere near over.
So while Minato might have been victorious in the first battle, there might be several more to come. Or not, because eventually the Nine-Tails is going to be so big a threat that Minato will have to stop it by himself, before other countless people die. In that case, though, the issue of "Minato vs. Madara" will not be solved, for the fight will just be considered a draw; unfinished. Neither Minato nor Madara will have reached their limits. To me, their most likely will be an ultimate victor, but who that will be is still unclear, despite what chapter 502 has given us.
I doubt it was an earth clone... or any other clone. Minato phased through the body wich would have destroyed the clone. And unless Madara can kawarimi as fast as the Hiraishin the rasengan hit the real Madara.
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Unless Minato also made the realization that the Nine-Tails was a more immediate threat, and needed to be given to Konoha in hopes that they would be able to combat Madara should he ever attack the village again. What is better, defeating the immediate and dangerous problem, or the root of the problem who could become more problematic than the Nine-Tailed Fox itself? It is a difficult decision to make, and at one point Minato would just have to choose.
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Well, Shino thought he had Madara trapped in his swarm of bugs, but it turns that Madara simply vanished, any traces of his chakra completely gone. Who knows what Madara is planning? He is a careful strategist, and could simply be feigning injury to make his own counterattack.
Judging from what people say, Madara, even in his weakened state, seems to have no limit to what he can do.
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Sakura said that Madara "remove
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What scares me is the fact that Madara has given hints that this isn't his full power as supposedly the Shodaime has damaged him somehow and he is a 'shadow' of himself.
I wonder how strong he would be at full power and how monstrously strong the first was to beat him.
I wonder how strong he would be at full power and how monstrously strong the first was to beat him.
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Madara, before his loss to Hashirama Senju, was perhaps the most dangerous Shinobi that ever lived. In a way, he still is, but he is weakened, and is forced to resort to other methods most wouldn't in combat. The thing is, during Madara's fight with Hashirama, the First took control of the Nine-Tails and turned it against Madara, leading to Madara's defeat. If the fox had remained under his control, Madara would probably have killed Hashirama.
Everyone in the Naruto world recognizes Madara's immense strength, and for good reason. They fully now what he is capable of, and you have to remember, the Madara that is now fighting with Minato is nowhere near the Madara we once knew during his prime. I'm sure many know that if Minato were to face Madara in his prime, the results would be enormously different.
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Itachi himself says "soon [Madara] was praised as the strongest Shinobi in the world." Back then, no one was able to challenge him, but Hashirama's Mokuton techniques, designed to suppress the fox, were the one ability that could. Because of them, Hashirama managed to win the titanic clash between himself and Madara.
Besides, the results of Minato and Madara's fight have yet to be seen; Madara, claiming to be a "mere shell of [his] former self," might still be stronger than the Fourth Hokage, who in many aspects was an incredible ninja. Why else would Minato say "he saw through everything I did?" That line can be interpreted in many ways, but soon we shall see what he really meant when he said those words to Naruto in chapter 440. So far, it is an impressive fight, and it will only get better, no doubt about that.
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