[Predictions] Naruto Manga 502 Discussion and 503 Predictions

[kisamexRocks]

Amazing chapter, but the ending strikes me, since Minato used the Flying thunder god level 2 and hit Madara with the Rasengan, he was fine and didn't seem to have taken any serious damage, then when other battles, like Naruto vs Pain, Jiraiya vs pain, when they used the rasengan they like instantly killed or severely injured the opponent. So either Madara has some insane healing technique or Minato actually didn't hit Madara. But Madara is insane, and the next chapter should be extremely EPIC.

 

[silenceofthelambs]

this chapter just reminded me how similar sasuke is to madara in general. COCKY BASTARDS

Well, even the most humble Uchiha has that sense of pride in them, so I suppose there's nothing you can really do about it. But if Sasuke takes up Madara's mantle, and spends his entire life trying to get revenge on Konoha, he will be much worse of a case. There will be so much more antipathy bottled up in him because of the fact his brother was ordered to slaughter his own clan.

The only thing that confuses me now is, if Madara really was outplayed in their high-speed battle, why would Minato say "[Madara] saw through everything I did?" That statement would no longer be true, resulting in a fairly large contradiction of the story as we know it now.

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Naturally, I am led to believe that their fight will have a continuation, simply because it's what the fans have wanted for quite a while now, and the unusually short length of this fight that is completely unlike the battles that Kishimoto has given in the manga so far.

What do you think?

 

[yondaimeminato]

Not a bad chapter - gave it a four out of five stars.

Minato's Rasengan at the end of the chapter might phase through Madara. I think this way because almost exactly the same thing happened in an earlier chapter.

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Madara makes the same grunt of pain, but the next thing you know Naruto's Rasengan goes straight through him. Also, while Shino was attempting to destroy Madara with his bugs, he suddenly vanished (using his space-time ninjutsu), elicting surprise from everyone.

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While Minato is an incredible ninja, who formulated a clever strategy in the heat of battle, somehow I doubt that this is the end of their battle. It was much too quick. Minato might have won the battle of speed for now, but consider Sasuke and Itachi's fight: their clash had several "endings," yet it really concluded when Itachi collapsed and died.

Besides, Madara, with all the intelligence and experience he has, surely wouldn't be hit by a Rasengan for no reason - he has a plan as well, and we might see it in the next chapter. But if this is the end of their battle, it is a little disappointing. It just wouldn't measure up to everyone's expectations, as if Kishimoto is trying to wrap up this battle scene as fast as possible and move on to more important things, which he never does, taking a good deal of time with each single battle that occurs in the manga.

But in any case, good chapter from Kishimoto - enjoyed reading it.

what are you talking about?

does naruto has the same speed as minato's?

the battle from today's chapter was about who wins in speed. Naruto wasn't fast enough to do damage to madara. You can't compare those chapters you have shown with the one that happened today.

there is a huge difference in speed with the chapters you have shown and the speed from today's chapter.

 

[yondaimeminato]

Well, even the most humble Uchiha has that sense of pride in them, so I suppose there's nothing you can really do about it. But if Sasuke takes up Madara's mantle, and spends his entire life trying to get revenge on Konoha, he will be much worse of a case. There will be so much more antipathy bottled up in him because of the fact his brother was ordered to slaughter his own clan.

The only thing that confuses me now is, if Madara really was outplayed in their high-speed battle, why would Minato say "[Madara] saw through everything I did?" That statement would no longer be true, resulting in a fairly large contradiction of the story as we know it now.

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Naturally, I am led to believe that their fight will have a continuation, simply because it's what the fans have wanted for quite a while now, and the unusually short length of this fight that is completely unlike the battles that Kishimoto has given in the manga so far.

What do you think?

because that's what you wanted to believe

The problem I found with those phrases from the beginning was that minato had to get rid of madara so that he can seal the nine tail demon to his son. Look at madara, he is trying hard to keep minato away from the nine tail demon fox. Obviously, minato did something to make madara retreat. Madara can teleport away back to his base whenever he wants to so it's really hard to kill him. This is why I believe minato failed to killed him but accomplish to make madara retreat.

 

[Sly Anbu]

Seeing Minato fight was freaking epic. And to those who are doubting this fight, remember: the better a ninja, the faster he could finish a fight. People like Itachi, Minato, Orochimaru, Sasori, Pain etc finish battles within seconds. And those to me are the best ninja.

 

[yondaimeminato]

Seeing Minato fight was freaking epic. And to those who are doubting this fight, remember: the better a ninja, the faster he could finish a fight. People like Itachi, Minato, Orochimaru, Sasori, Pain etc finish battles within seconds. And those to me are the best ninja.

well, it's not really finished yet.

In this chapter minato won in speed but not the battle.

I think there is more of madara or the mask man

 

[CasualMisfit]

There was an eight year gap between both situations he could off easily cut his hair and grown it back between the years.

Yeah i was thinking that... but it seems sorta odd... I am also considering the possibility that Madara's body may be used... His whole attitude... It just seems more and more that Kishi has a fat arse twist to do with madara close on the horizon!

 

[yondaimeminato]

What I have found interesting from today's chapter:

The third will finally justify his strength hopefully.

The second hokage looks like he was able to do space/time teleportation jutsu as well

 

[Degrees]

Yeah i was thinking that... but it seems sorta odd... I am also considering the possibility that Madara's body may be used... His whole attitude... It just seems more and more that Kishi has a fat arse twist to do with madara close on the horizon!

I totally agree on your other point. This Madara seems a lot more Tobish (new word in the dictionary) then the one we know now.

 

[irkool_budd]

wahehehe... madara got owned! your so weak madara! jst coz u have time space jutsu doesnt mean you have thunder speed! one for you! minato is suuuuuuuper cool! who said about him as weak is so wrong! the way he warped that massive ball of black chakra, whew! im having goosebumps!

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

Not yet. We still don't know how much damage the Rasengan will do, if any at all. Madara might make his body permeable at the last moment, and their fight will continue. Besides, Minato's intention was to kill Madara - last I checked, a Rasengan the size of what Minato has in his hand does not kill.

Like I said, if this is the end of their fight, it is too short, and Kishimoto has always been one for long, drawn-out clashes. I don't think he would put an end to their fight in only one chapter, especially considering how everyone wants this issue of "Minato vs. Madara" resolved once and for all. Of course that's my speculation, and the opposite of what I predicted might happen. Still, a good chapter.

Actually, Rasengan typically kills, other than Konohamaru's tiny one. Minato had a slightly larger one than a normal size. Kabuto survived Naruto's first Rasengan by healing before it hit.

 

[Steinbiz]

this proves minato stronger than madara

yep, people keep saying how great madara is with his space/time. MINATO JUST BEAT HIM!!!

IN YOUR FACE MADARA FANBOYS!!!!!

I was right, if they fought one on one, Minato would own him quickly.

 

[Steinbiz]

Well, even the most humble Uchiha has that sense of pride in them, so I suppose there's nothing you can really do about it. But if Sasuke takes up Madara's mantle, and spends his entire life trying to get revenge on Konoha, he will be much worse of a case. There will be so much more antipathy bottled up in him because of the fact his brother was ordered to slaughter his own clan.

The only thing that confuses me now is, if Madara really was outplayed in their high-speed battle, why would Minato say "[Madara] saw through everything I did?" That statement would no longer be true, resulting in a fairly large contradiction of the story as we know it now.

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Naturally, I am led to believe that their fight will have a continuation, simply because it's what the fans have wanted for quite a while now, and the unusually short length of this fight that is completely unlike the battles that Kishimoto has given in the manga so far.

What do you think?

DUDE OMFG, you're just mad that Minato just beat Madara fair and sqaure and proved he is stronger.

YOU ARE SO IN DENILE

MINATO > MADARA

 

[minato4th]

Well, even the most humble Uchiha has that sense of pride in them, so I suppose there's nothing you can really do about it. But if Sasuke takes up Madara's mantle, and spends his entire life trying to get revenge on Konoha, he will be much worse of a case. There will be so much more antipathy bottled up in him because of the fact his brother was ordered to slaughter his own clan.

The only thing that confuses me now is, if Madara really was outplayed in their high-speed battle, why would Minato say "[Madara] saw through everything I did?" That statement would no longer be true, resulting in a fairly large contradiction of the story as we know it now.

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Naturally, I am led to believe that their fight will have a continuation, simply because it's what the fans have wanted for quite a while now, and the unusually short length of this fight that is completely unlike the battles that Kishimoto has given in the manga so far.

What do you think?

The fight might last another two chapters with some brief cameos of the third fighting the fox and kushina cuddling naruto etc. However, i think what the fourth meant when he said"[Madara] saw through everything I did" was that during the early stage of the battle he was countering everything the fiurth was throwing at him until the fourth found a way around it until madara once again laid out another trump card. The fourth probalay once again found away around it but was running low on chakra and had to deal with the nine tailed fox. so he probalay knocked out madara or forced him to flee(which all uchihas seem to have a talent for doing) began the process of sealing the nine tails within via naruto but not before speaking with kushina,kakashi,the thrid,jiraiya and tsunade. And i think at some point after the madara battle he had a vision of what naruto could become which probalay influenced him a tad bit more with going through with the sealing.

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

About the Minato being stronger than Madara thing.

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"Without some sort of special power, there would be no way to fight him".

Minato doesn't have a special power. He is the Hokage, but he has no Kekkai Genkai (as far as we know), no Bijuu, or anything of that Nature. He is just a genius with some EXTREMELY original techniques and incredible speed. The techniques he invented pretty much sets him up there with people who have Kekkai Genkai and Bijuu's, but it's still not a "special" power because anyone can learn it if they have the ability.

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Take a look at what page that is...It's the last, and Madara is still alive...

Matter of fact, he's still alive to THIS DAY.

He's the reason Minato, Kushina, and all of those people from Konoha that died fighting the Kyuubi (like Iruka's parent's) are dead.

He was able to summon the Kyuubi via summoning technique. Just that alone suggests a huge chakra level. He summoned the thing that gave Pain all that shit, and is able to control it. Regardless of Minato having to leave the battle to go after the Kyuubi, it was Madara's abilities of summoning and control that caused Minato to die sealing it. Thus, Madara won the fight. It would be different if the Kyuubi just came out of nowhere and started poppin shit like Rambo.

Supposing the Fourth didn't have the FTG technique, Minato would have been absorbed. If it was Orochimaru, or Sasori, or Deidara, or Kakashi, or Jiraiya, or any other ninja without space/time ninjutsu that can send them somewhere else, it would have been an instant battle.

 

[uzamaki2223]

@Nick444: Anytime pal.

Glad this weeks manga was worth the wait.

The last page pic on Minato taking down Madara, reminds me of Naruto with his Sage cape.

i thought the exact same thing lol

 

[eyesofthekyuubi44]

wahehehe... madara got owned! your so weak madara! jst coz u have time space jutsu doesnt mean you have thunder speed! one for you! minato is suuuuuuuper cool! who said about him as weak is so wrong! the way he warped that massive ball of black chakra, whew! im having goosebumps!

I'm sure Madara is going to be pretty offended when he reads this...

 

[Jinchuuriki of Juubi]

yeah something did seem fishy when itachi mentioned his parent's had went somewhere. Especially when the nines is attacking the village !? Something tells me that thier was AN UCHIHA CONSPIRACY BREWING EVEN BEFORE THE ATTACK OF THE NINE TAILED FOX !!

don't think so.it was simply a child noticing his parents weren't home and that he would protect sasuke

 

[minato4th]

without madarA's spacetime ninjutsu HE WOULD BE DEAD. Madara didn't win, to madara winning was the complete ANNIILATION OF THE HIDDEN LEAF VILLAGE. WHICH HE DID NOT SUCEED IN DOING. DESPITE THE FACT MINATO DIED, HE WON THE BATTLE. HOW YOU ASK ?? HE SEALED THE NINE TAILS THUSLY STOPPING IT'S RAMPAGE, MOST DEF DID SOMETHING TO MADARA THAT PREVENTED HIM FROM INTERFEREING WHILE THE SEALING WAS IN PROCESS. SAVED THE VILLAGE AND PASSED DOWN A GIFT TO HIS SON THAT WILL THE SHINOBI WORLD OF MADARA ONCE AND FOR ALL

 

[Astral]

Great chapter