VOTE1 Sasuke Vs SRA Neji Taijutsu death match.

[Dannie]

Doesnt needto see tenketsu points to attack the heart/brain , other random organs , all it takes is pre-knowledge and intellect no?

Hm, you're probably right. I believe Neji wins this anyway, since Base Sasuke without his CS is basically Zabuza arc Sasuke.

 

[Genyūmaru1]

Without the Byakugan, how will Neji see Sasuke's Tenketsu points?

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I posted to Blazing Storm like a page ago I believe that Neji doesn't need to strike @ the Tenketsu points directly. Though attacking the heart has multiple Tenketsu wrapped around it as they're inner coils, simply aiming @ the heart will hit one or two. But regardless of that, Gentle Fist aimed at the heart will be fatal, because Gentle Fist is meant to damage the organs, and the heart or brain are organs.

So if Neji strikes @ either the heart or brain Sasuke will die.

 

[Dannie]

I posted to Blazing Storm like a page ago I believe that Neji doesn't need to strike @ the Tenketsu points directly. Though attacking the heart has multiple Tenketsu wrapped around it as they're inner coils, simply aiming @ the heart will hit one or two. But regardless of that, Gentle Fist aimed at the heart will be fatal, because Gentle Fist is meant to damage the organs, and the heart or brain are organs.

So if Neji strikes @ either the heart or brain Sasuke will die.

Yeah, + you would think that even without the Byakugan, I think Neji has enough experience of where to land the hits.

Neji wins with no more than mid diff imo.

 

[The Arizen]

Hm, you're probably right. I believe Neji wins this anyway, since Base Sasuke without his CS is basically Zabuza arc Sasuke.

VOTE Sasuke>>>>>>>>>>>Za Sasuke in every single aspect of combat , i cant agree there.

CE Sasuke without sharingan is fast enough to blitz ZA Sharingan Sasuke with way less difficulty than wieghted lee did DWL.

VOTE Sasuke>>>>>>>>>>>>CE Sasuke>>>>>>>>>>>>ZA Sasuke.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Neji Stamina ass compared to Sasuke lol? In Pt.1 they both had a 2 within the databook.. And then you have to factor in that Neji has better chakra control than Sasuke on that fact that the Hyuga Clan's techniques all revolve around perfect chakra control to utilize.

Never use the databook stats. Kurenai and Itachi both have 5 in genjutsu, but their fight ended up with Itachi shitting on Kurenai with genjutsu.
My point is that Neji would never outlast Sasuke when both of their performances against Naruto show that one is done after a tiny amount of onslaught from Naruto, while the other can keep up with Naruto through the end. Neji's kaiten reflected back a single punch from kyuubi influenced Naruto, with Naruto absorbing the majority of the damage. Neji was so tired after that attack that a single punch shitted on him. While Sasuke was taking numerous stronger punches from Naruto and was able to fight evenly.

Sasuke's reserves were much higher than Itachi's because he had Orochimaru's own chakra as well. But Itachi through perfect chakra control was able to outlast Sasuke. So even if Sasuke had superior chakra reserves than Neji, which he doesn't. Neji would still be able to outlast Sasuke.

Neji went against Naruto with a KN0 power boost, and almost outlasted him lol..

CM is restricted so.

Granted that Neji's CC is better than Sasuke, but it doesn't help him outlast at all. Not from what he's shown.
And no, Neji didn't even come close to outlasting Naruto. Naruto took far more damage than Neji ever could hope to take.

Could go either way honestly. 3 tomoe precognition gives the edge to sauce.

 

[Claymantan]

And no, Neji didn't even come close to outlasting Naruto. Naruto took far more damage than Neji ever could hope to take.

To be fair, Naruto's stamina exceeds both Sasuke's and Neji's. Stamina is supposed to be his whole deal in Part 1. VOTE Sasuke's stamina is hard to measure because he was using CM for that fight. And SRA Neji's stamina is above and beyond CE Neji's stamina. So these aren't really good comparisons to make.

 

[The Arizen]

To be fair, Naruto's stamina exceeds both Sasuke's and Neji's. Stamina is supposed to be his whole deal in Part 1. VOTE Sasuke's stamina is hard to measure because he was using CM for that fight. And SRA Neji's stamina is above and beyond CE Neji's stamina. So these aren't really good comparisons to make.

Bold is wat some fail to realize , it wont get to the point of out-lasting when both are cqc fighters.

 

[Lord Tywin]

To be fair, Naruto's stamina exceeds both Sasuke's and Neji's. Stamina is supposed to be his whole deal in Part 1. VOTE Sasuke's stamina is hard to measure because he was using CM for that fight. And SRA Neji's stamina is above and beyond CE Neji's stamina. So these aren't really good comparisons to make.

I know that. What I'm saying that Neji has no chance of outlasting Sasuke. Neji couldn't keep up with Naruto's stamina when Naruto started dishing out some damage. Sasuke could. Obviously Neji is stronger in sra, but so is Sasuke and so is Naruto. Their stamina only increased.

 

[Observer]

Bold is wat some fail to realize , it wont get to the point of out-lasting when both are cqc fighters.

The girl on your avatar has unproportional ugly unnaturally expanded breasts.

Just saying.

 

[Genyūmaru1]

Yeah, + you would think that even without the Byakugan, I think Neji has enough experience of where to land the hits.

Neji wins with no more than mid diff imo.

Exactly fam.

Never use the databook stats. Kurenai and Itachi both have 5 in genjutsu, but their fight ended up with Itachi shitting on Kurenai with genjutsu.
My point is that Neji would never outlast Sasuke when both of their performances against Naruto show that one is done after a tiny amount of onslaught from Naruto, while the other can keep up with Naruto through the end. Neji's kaiten reflected back a single punch from kyuubi influenced Naruto, with Naruto absorbing the majority of the damage. Neji was so tired after that attack that a single punch shitted on him. While Sasuke was taking numerous stronger punches from Naruto and was able to fight evenly.


Granted that Neji's CC is better than Sasuke, but it doesn't help him outlast at all. Not from what he's shown.
And no, Neji didn't even come close to outlasting Naruto. Naruto took far more damage than Neji ever could hope to take.

Could go either way honestly. 3 tomoe precognition gives the edge to sauce.

The DB stats are fine. Kurenai may be a 5 in Genjutsu, but we all know that Itachi is beyond a 5. But it's not a big deal no worries.

Neji would outlast Sasuke though, that's the thing. In Neji's fight against Naruto, he outlasted Naruto, until Kurama got involved, and even then he was almost the last one standing until Naruto pulled that slick sneak attack. Sasuke vs Naruto can't be compared here, because Sasuke had CM, which is restricted here. And as you know CM gives Orochimaru's own chakra to the victim + Natural energy.

Neji did outlast Naruto though. Base Naruto's chakra reserves we're big indeed, but the way he used his clones, and basic arsenal is what depleted him so quickly that's the thing. Neji was finesse the entire match. It was like Sasuke vs Itachi. Itachi made Sasuke use all his chakra taxing techniques until he had hardly any chakra left over, and Orochimaru took over, while Itachi had a substantiate amount left enough to sustain Susano'o, and pull out Yata Mirror, and Totsuka Blade to seal Orochimaru.

I also disagree on the statement that 3T gives Sasuke the advantage. Byakugan's perception is much better, and even has precognition as seen here:

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"Can sense all of his opponents attacks."

Byakugan in my honest opinion is slightly superior to 3T Sharingan.

 

[The Arizen]

I know that. What I'm saying that Neji has no chance of outlasting Sasuke. Neji couldn't keep up with Naruto's stamina when Naruto started dishing out some damage. Sasuke could. Obviously Neji is stronger in sra, but so is Sasuke and so is Naruto. Their stamina only increased.

Outlasting wont be a factor in this match since the outcome will be decided in cqc , neji or sasuke wont have viable need to waste chakra.

"Can sense all of his opponents attacks."

Byakugan in my honest opinion is slightly superior to 3T Sharingan.

Byakugan can "sense the attack the moment its lanuched"

Precog is superior in that its precog but neji's striking speed and taijutsu more than makes up for it , sasukes body cant react to 32 strikes happening almost instantly , its very different from naruto's linear punches and movement.

 

[Genyūmaru1]

Outlasting wont be a factor in this match since the outcome will be decided in cqc , neji or sasuke wont have viable need to waste chakra.



Byakugan can "sense the attack the moment its lanuched"

Precog is superior in that its precog but neji's striking speed and taijutsu more than makes up for it , sasukes body cant react to 32 strikes happening almost instantly , its very different from naruto's linear punches and movement.

It's still a form of precognition however.

pre·cog·ni·tion
ˌprēˌkäɡˈniSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
foreknowledge of an event, especially foreknowledge of a paranormal kind.

Agreed the Sharingan is superior in precog no doubt. But you can't write off the Byakugan.

 

[The Arizen]

It's still a form of precognition however.

pre·cog·ni·tion
ˌprēˌkäɡˈniSH(ə)n/
noun
1.
foreknowledge of an event, especially foreknowledge of a paranormal kind.

Agreed the Sharingan is superior in precog no doubt. But you can't write off the Byakugan.

Im not writing it off and i agree but as all tools its only as powerful as the users , neji has more skill , traning and exp in taijutsu supported by the DB giving him a 4.5 as apposed to sasuke's 3.5 and his byakugan and reflexes makes it possible for him to literally neg diff sasuke in a tai fight.

 

[Lord Tywin]

The DB stats are fine. Kurenai may be a 5 in Genjutsu, but we all know that Itachi is beyond a 5. But it's not a big deal no worries.

Neji would outlast Sasuke though, that's the thing. In Neji's fight against Naruto, he outlasted Naruto, until Kurama got involved, and even then he was almost the last one standing until Naruto pulled that slick sneak attack. Sasuke vs Naruto can't be compared here, because Sasuke had CM, which is restricted here. And as you know CM gives Orochimaru's own chakra to the victim + Natural energy.

Neji did outlast Naruto though. Base Naruto's chakra reserves we're big indeed, but the way he used his clones, and basic arsenal is what depleted him so quickly that's the thing. Neji was finesse the entire match. It was like Sasuke vs Itachi. Itachi made Sasuke use all his chakra taxing techniques until he had hardly any chakra left over, and Orochimaru took over, while Itachi had a substantiate amount left enough to sustain Susano'o, and pull out Yata Mirror, and Totsuka Blade to seal Orochimaru.

I also disagree on the statement that 3T gives Sasuke the advantage. Byakugan's perception is much better, and even has precognition as seen here:

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"Can sense all of his opponents attacks."

Byakugan in my honest opinion is slightly superior to 3T Sharingan.

bruh...As I said, stats cannot be trusted. The same thing can be said about different characters. They can have the same stat but one can be vastly superior to another.

Actually, I'm not gonna continue the stamina argument. Neji's gentle fist is capable of bypassing stamina, so there is no point tbh.

But 3 tomoe is clearly superior in terms of precognition. Sasuke was faster than weightless Lee, and was getting shitblitzed by km0 Naruto, with 2 tomoe activated. 3 tomoe was easily dodging the same person while launching counter attack. What distinguishes 3 tomoe from byakugan is the ability to predict. Neji can sense, but he can't predict.

 

[NarutoX28]

bruh...As I said, stats cannot be trusted. The same thing can be said about different characters. They can have the same stat but one can be vastly superior to another.

Actually, I'm not gonna continue the stamina argument. Neji's gentle fist is capable of bypassing stamina, so there is no point tbh.

But 3 tomoe is clearly superior in terms of precognition. Sasuke was faster than weightless Lee, and was getting shitblitzed by km0 Naruto, with 2 tomoe activated. 3 tomoe was easily dodging the same person while launching counter attack. What distinguishes 3 tomoe from byakugan is the ability to predict. Neji can sense, but he can't predict.

That's key.

In Close Combat, the Byakugan's enhanced perception isn't going to be as effective in this match-up as Neji is likely not forced to have to react to attacks that originate from multiple different directions. In CQC where both targets are within each other's normal LoS, Sasuke's 3T Sharingan is superior in the idea that it can predict attacks and determine where they'll be in a matter of seconds, enabling Sasuke to react in advance whereas Neji doesn't have that benefit.

Though regardless, if Sasuke attempts to react in advance, I'd imagine the Byakugan's enhanced perception could pick up on it as the Byakugan emits a veil of chakra that enables him to pick up on anything in every direction, so instead of lunging forward at Sasuke, he would pick up on Sasuke's body shifting to another location and react through Kaiten or emitting Chakra throughout his entire body.

In my opinion, it takes Cursed Seal Stage 1 for Sasuke to win this match. Without it, I'd imagine Sasuke would lose. Yes, 3T Sasuke trashed KN0 Naruto, but KN0 Naruto's Taijutsu skill is less refined and he lacks the extra perception that the Byakugan has, so I don't feel that instance is applicable here.

 

[LoZelda101]

use nagashi. I honestly can't see neji expecting such a feat from sauce and counter it in time.

 

[unknownvillain1254]

Outlasting wont be a factor in this match since the outcome will be decided in cqc , neji or sasuke wont have viable need to waste chakra.



Byakugan can "sense the attack the moment its lanuched"

Precog is superior in that its precog but neji's striking speed and taijutsu more than makes up for it , sasukes body cant react to 32 strikes happening almost instantly , its very different from naruto's linear punches and movement.

First Sharingan does not have precog abilities that's one thing that people have been going off about for the longest its not that ! the Sharingan simple read your muscle movement and predicts where you MAY move next which is different from pre-cog which is seeing events before they happen. The Sharingan predicts which what will be the most likely move there is a difference so tricks like faint can work!

 

[The Arizen]

First Sharingan does not have precog abilities that's one thing that people have been going off about for the longest its not that ! the Sharingan simple read your muscle movement and predicts where you MAY move next which is different from pre-cog which is seeing events before they happen. The Sharingan predicts which what will be the most likely move there is a difference so tricks like faint can work!

Agreed with the bold , which is why zabuza got the best of kakashi and kicked him in the face with his taijutsu.

use nagashi. I honestly can't see neji expecting such a feat from sauce and counter it in time.

Are u on sake??

Kaiba , the orignal light yagami.

 

[LoZelda101]

Agreed with the bold , which is why zabuza got the best of kakashi and kicked him in the face with his taijutsu.


Are u on sake??

Kaiba , the orignal light yagami.

Why?

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[unknownvillain1254]

Why?

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Chakra shield still blocks