War Arc Neji VS Hidan

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you still haven't told me what the difference in speed is. Calculate it for me will ya.

Also now you are clearly lying lol.

"His scythe and rope does give very dangerous reach and maneuverability , too dangerous to gun at a guy like that using top speed."

-You used that as a point.

-I bring in a panel where the scythe wasn't even used.


-You acting like you didn't use that.

Irrelevant 4.5>>>3.5 in speed , dude jus take it up with kishi , kakashi , asuma and neji>>>>hidan in speed case closed.


Where did I even lie? Lola his scythe does do all those things and I made it clear that the guy highly skilled in cqc (4.5) so again u bring up him fighting without the scythe is a irrelevant as u can get since:

A) Still immortal.

B) Is in the she tier of cqc prowess as asuma (4.5 ) highly skilled and has great speed.

And ur acting like a clown , I never used it in the context ur trying to twist it into.
 
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Irrelevant 4.5>>>3.5 in speed , dude jus take it up with kishi , kakashi , asuma and neji>>>>hidan in speed case closed.


Where did I even lie? Lola his scythe does do all those things and I made it clear that the guy highly skilled in cqc (4.5) so again u bring up him fighting without the scythe is a irrelevant as u can get since:

A) Still immortal.

B) Is in the she tier of cqc prowess as asuma (4.5 ) highly skilled and has great speed

Is it? How big of a gap does the 1 stand for? By how much would the difference be when applied to the manga? Obviously the number 4.5 is greater than 3.5, cool.

What we saw in the manga was they were in the same tier of speed, that's all one can infer, if you want to go ahead and be specific about it you either need to prove to me how big of a gap it is, or stop bringing it up.

Whats funny is those points don't even help against Neji, even if you want to use the weak points. His immortality isn't gonna just up and leave, his cqc prowess isn't just gonna disappear either.
 

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Is it? How big of a gap does the 1 stand for? By how much would the difference be when applied to the manga? Obviously the number 4.5 is greater than 3.5, cool.

What we saw in the manga was they were in the same tier of speed, that's all one can infer, if you want to go ahead and be specific about it you either need to prove to me how big of a gap it is, or stop bringing it up.

Whats funny is those points don't even help against Neji, even if you want to use the weak points. His immortality isn't gonna just up and leave, his cqc prowess isn't just gonna disappear either.

The exact calculations in comparison are (4.5 Vs 3.5 ) , go get kishi to give yuh numbered calculations. OK.

Then this rightly puts neji in the tier he needs to be in order to react to hidan , (4.5 in tai and speed , right beside kakashi and asuma ) while neji is factually a taijutsu genius and specialist ) meaning u literally have no point.



What's even more lol worthy is u , with ur irrelevant statements , who said anything about his immortality and skill disappearing? Only thing doing that is ur points which were pretty much transparent to begin with.

A)Neji is in the same tier of taijutsu as kakashi/asuma/hidan and is simultaneously a taijutsu genius and specialist as a genin , we gave kakashi praising the hell out of him as a gen in.




B) His chakra abilities and vision negate hidans fighting style with ease.



C) Shunshin speed is irrelevant since it can't blitz neji and all shunshin is the same high speed movement so no bases to why neji himself would get blitzed especially with byakugan seeing all chakra activity and already having superior speed (4.5 Vs 3.5) written by the person who pened hidan on paper , gave him feats etc .

Kishi>you and (3.5 <<4.5 ) and itd funny that u callef the point weak when its obviously better than your baselessness , going against kishi's data on his own characters and what not.

Keep fighting tho.
 
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Just for starters, before i start my post, do you really feel like the databook is actually legit? Damn.
 

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Just for starters, before i start my post, do you really feel like the databook is actually legit? Damn.

yeah its legit till chap 403 or 402[Or tll whatever it covers]

Though point to be added it does not cover enhancement
it is base speed

Example: Hebi Sasuke and Neji both have 4.5 speed but

Base Hebi Sasuke's shunshin speed is far greater than anything Neji has shown in manga
 

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yeah its legit till chap 403 or 402[Or tll whatever it covers]

Though point to be added it does not cover enhancement
it is base speed

Example: Hebi Sasuke and Neji both have 4.5 speed but

Base Hebi Sasuke's shunshin speed is far greater than anything Neji has shown in manga

I think it is made to show how complete the ninja is in his own tier. But it can't be used to compare it to other characters, since it would be contradictory. Kakashi has more intelligence than Zabuza, but Zabuza still outsmarted the crap out of him, and that feat > whatever the databook says.

When the databook contradicts the manga, then Manga is the one right.
 
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I'm wondering how you came to the conclusion that Hidan has a superior shunshin to Neji. Not only is Neji ranked higher in speed, his chakra control surpasses Hidan by far. Both of them lack shunshin feats to actually compare with each other.
 

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I'm wondering how you came to the conclusion that Hidan has a superior shunshin to Neji. Not only is Neji ranked higher in speed, his chakra control surpasses Hidan by far. Both of them lack shunshin feats to actually compare with each other.

Because Neji doesn't have feats at all, while Hidan pressured Kakashi from a pretty long distance, and was constantly dodging shikamaru's shadows on foot. And the databook stats do not refer to sunshin speed as mentioned before.
 

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Hidan pressured Kakashi from a pretty long distance, and was constantly dodging shikamaru's shadows on foot.
None of what you are saying has anything to do with shunshin.
 

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yeah i can agree on that.DB can mostly be used to compare featless chars

Dang yo, I like the new sig a lot.

But I'd say that DB stats are kind of useless but DB hype on jutsu/people/etc. can be used TOGETHER with manga feats, etc.
 

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None of what you are saying has anything to do with shunshin.

How on earth is it not?
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That's the starting distance Hidan had. This what Kakashi does before Hidan approaches him:
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SFX: Taking distance

Kakashi even prepared himself when he saw Hidan was going against him, and he was forced to backpedal, when against other opponents, he has countered with a straight raikiri counter (against edo Zabuza for example, and against the edo jins). Meaning that Hidan covered the initial distance pretty fast not giving Kakashi other options. The attack itself was slow, but that's because Hidan's strikind speed is not fast.

It's a watered down version of what happened here

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The initial distance that's covered, is covered pretty fast. Then the attacker slows down to make the attack.

Hidan initally covered that distance with sunshin.

Another good sunshin feat for Hidan:
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1-His initial position before the fire was right next to Kakuzu, and he blindsides Kakashi as Kakashi jumps to dodge the fire
2-After that, they clash and move at the same speed around the tree as the illustration shows

Here he outruns the shadow by a pretty long gap, forcing shikamaru to use a lot of tricks to get him
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He's so much faster than the shadow itself, that he can dodge it while having another target. (Scans already posted)

So tell me, how on earth does Neji's 4.5 in speed correlate to this when Hidan's 3.5 clearly doesn't reffer to his movement speed?

While i'm still waiting for ONE feat from Neji.
 
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Zexion and EZQ could tag team this post.
 

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I'll reply to other post tomorrow since it's too long. Bye bye i'm gonna play with my new ps2 now
 

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Im poor. Lol, it's what i could buy


nun5 lol

My respect for u just shot up a couple tiers Lol I have all them , nun3 is packed full of content.

Who do u main? Kakashi?
 

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Zexion and EZQ could tag team this post.

Lol

Neji can't harm Hidan unless there is stipulations in OP I didn't read, can **** up vital organs all he wants. Debatable if he can even best him in CQC since his best feat is topping a zetsu in the war arc.
 
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