War Arc Neji VS Hidan

[neosmith500]

How on earth is it not?

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That's the starting distance Hidan had. This what Kakashi does before Hidan approaches him:


Kakashi even prepared himself when he saw Hidan was going against him, and he was forced to backpedal, when against other opponents, he has countered with a straight raikiri counter (against edo Zabuza for example, and against the edo jins). Meaning that Hidan covered the initial distance pretty fast not giving Kakashi other options. The attack itself was slow, but that's because Hidan's strikind speed is not fast.


The initial distance that's covered, is covered pretty fast. Then the attacker slows down to make the attack.

Hidan initally covered that distance with sunshin..

Saying this with ur own words/quote , "those distances mean ntn to shinobi standards , they're super humans.

Those distances mean nothing to shinobi standards , they're super humans.

Especially when we hav p1 neji covering pretty much the same distance while restrained and having to react to a spear which was literally point-blank range , by jumping followed by the dash which means it oviously wasn't the best start off to begin with.

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So now we hav p1 restrained neji covering the same distance ur using to hype hidans shunshin speed , yet im seein no proof hidan nor p1 neji used shunshin in either cases apart from assumptions , because I can easily use p1 sra neji's feats and say that his shunshin is relatively = to hidans based on the distances covered bein similar to the one in ur scan or I could say that p1 neji's body speed at the time (3.5 ) is relavtively equal to hidans shunshin in that scan , with no actual proof of who is actually superior shunshin-wise between them , made even worse by the fact that war arc neji and even p1 neji >>>>>>hidan in the extent to which they can control their chakra. and ultimately shunshin if given a logical assessment.

-On to ur next point , kakashi preparing to backpedal makes perfect sense given the circumstances , but hidan not givin kakashi any "options" when we all kno he could've activated MS and sniped hidan no diff in the same way he did to sasuke's arrows makes no sense especially when we hav kakashi himself taking his stance and getting ready to react to hidan , him choosing to react the way he did doesn't determine that it was his only option lol that case directly goes to MS sasuke and his arrow , kakashi didn't even show any hint of surprise/shock from the dash , he simply took his stance and reacted no diff ntn to suggest he had no other option , furthermore chidori would've been useless as fck and a waste of energy.

The initial distance was covered pretty fast , but its ntn that p1 neji wasn't capable of nor can u prove either used shunshin in their corresponding instances.

Another good sunshin feat for Hidan:

1-His initial position before the fire was right next to Kakuzu, and he blindsides Kakashi as Kakashi jumps to dodge the fire
2-After that, they clash and move at the same speed around the tree as the illustration shows

Here he outruns the shadow by a pretty long gap, forcing shikamaru to use a lot of tricks to get him

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He's so much faster than the shadow itself, that he can dodge it while having another target.

So tell me, how on earth does Neji's 4.5 in speed correlate to this when Hidan's 3.5 clearly doesn't reffer to his movement speed

Shunshin is high speed movement usin chakra to vitalize the body , hidan covering that distance is ntn special to shinobi standards when he already has 3.5 in speed. Hidan is in the same league as kakashi in taijutsu (4.5 ) so when he blind-sides him , kakashi simply countered and parried him usin his superior reflexes and reactions. It makes zero sense for kakashi to be usin full speed when hes already locked in cqc with hidan , which is easily handled by him successfully avoiding gettin scratched by hidan who blindsided him through smoke , ( obviously one of the regular guerrilla tactics utilized by him/kakusu) , kakashi countered this with ease and did so without needing to waste chakra/stamina usin shunshin or more speed when he easily handles this madman via kunai and 3t all while keepin and eye on his partner.

Furthermore hidan was constantly the aggressor in all their small skirmishes , which makes sense. Kakashi never ever attemped to blitz hidan and that too also makes sense given the circumstances , wasting chakra and stamina and takin the risk against a guy who is immortal who is backed by a guy who has five hearts would not be so wise my young padowon , instead he simply solo-countered their guerilla tactics with a kunai and ntn but reactions and reflexes and the one time kakashi was about to put the shoe on the other foot by goin after hidan who was busy running from shikas shadows , kakusu stands in his way , shadows which aren't even that fast compared to shinobi standards or feats p1 neji shown , its better used with stealth and/or assistance not actually chasing the target down.

furthermore can u prove kagemane is even faster than a propeled kunai

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Even p1 neji should have the capability to pull wat hidan did wth kagemane , while having other targets too.
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Next , hidan avoiding kagemane while dealing with asuma illustrated his reflexes/reaction in that fight , reactions which get elegantly pooed on when we have kid neji simultaneously avoiding dozens of targets by milliseconds while having to deal with dozens more simultaneously comin straight after the other and in bulks , and that's not taking it account all the extra targets

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and that's scaled down to a genin kid neji.

I already addressed why kakashi/asuma had to fight hidan the way they did. Hidan is in the same league as them in cqc (4.5) , is immortal , has a scythe which he can easily control via rope , and is pretty fast himself (3.5) so hes about as dangerous as u can , especially when u take into account that shinobi don't carelessly use/abuse shunshin for obvious reasons , I think draegod made a thread about it.

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And hidans stat in the db obviously pertains to movement speed , same as choji/neji/kakashi or anyone , take of it wat u will , not to mention u cant even prove hidan used shunshin itself in any of the scans u provided as easily as I can prove it was utilized here ,

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Unless any seeminly fast paced movement is gonna be determined as shunshin now.

 

[EZQ]

How much it cost?

Here in argentina it costs 1000 pesos which is around 65 dollars. But in the US it should be a lot cheaper

My respect for u just shot up a couple tiers Lol I have all them , nun3 is packed full of content.

Who do u main? Kakashi?

I use Kakashi, Neji pt2, Kiba pt2 and pt1, Tobirama and Kimimaro.

What a good game

 

[EZQ]

Saying this with ur own words/quote , "those distances mean ntn to shinobi standards , they're super humans.


Especially when we hav p1 neji covering pretty much the same distance while restrained and having to react to a spear which was literally point-blank range , by jumping followed by the dash which means it oviously wasn't the best start off to begin with.

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So now we hav p1 restrained neji covering the same distance ur using to hype hidans shunshin speed , yet im seein no proof hidan nor p1 neji used shunshin in either cases apart from assumptions , because I can easily use p1 sra neji's feats and say that his shunshin is relatively = to hidans based on the distances covered bein similar to the one in ur scan or I could say that p1 neji's body speed at the time (3.5 ) is relavtively equal to hidans shunshin in that scan , with no actual proof of who is actually superior shunshin-wise between them , made even worse by the fact that war arc neji and even p1 neji >>>>>>hidan in the extent to which they can control their chakra. and ultimately shunshin if given a logical assessment.

-On to ur next point , kakashi preparing to backpedal makes perfect sense given the circumstances , but hidan not givin kakashi any "options" when we all kno he could've activated MS and sniped hidan no diff in the same way he did to sasuke's arrows makes no sense especially when we hav kakashi himself taking his stance and getting ready to react to hidan , him choosing to react the way he did doesn't determine that it was his only option lol that case directly goes to MS sasuke and his arrow , kakashi didn't even show any hint of surprise/shock from the dash , he simply took his stance and reacted no diff ntn to suggest he had no other option , furthermore chidori would've been useless as fck and a waste of energy.

The initial distance was covered pretty fast , but its ntn that p1 neji wasn't capable of nor can u prove either used shunshin in their corresponding instances.





Shunshin is high speed movement usin chakra to vitalize the body , hidan covering that distance is ntn special to shinobi standards when he already has 3.5 in speed. Hidan is in the same league as kakashi in taijutsu (4.5 ) so when he blind-sides him , kakashi simply countered and parried him usin his superior reflexes and reactions. It makes zero sense for kakashi to be usin full speed when hes already locked in cqc with hidan , which is easily handled by him successfully avoiding gettin scratched by hidan who blindsided him through smoke , ( obviously one of the regular guerrilla tactics utilized by him/kakusu) , kakashi countered this with ease and did so without needing to waste chakra/stamina usin shunshin or more speed when he easily handles this madman via kunai and 3t all while keepin and eye on his partner.

Furthermore hidan was constantly the aggressor in all their small skirmishes , which makes sense. Kakashi never ever attemped to blitz hidan and that too also makes sense given the circumstances , wasting chakra and stamina and takin the risk against a guy who is immortal who is backed by a guy who has five hearts would not be so wise my young padowon , instead he simply solo-countered their guerilla tactics with a kunai and ntn but reactions and reflexes and the one time kakashi was about to put the shoe on the other foot by goin after hidan who was busy running from shikas shadows , kakusu stands in his way , shadows which aren't even that fast compared to shinobi standards or feats p1 neji shown , its better used with stealth and/or assistance not actually chasing the target down.

furthermore can u prove kagemane is even faster than a propeled kunai

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Even p1 neji should have the capability to pull wat hidan did wth kagemane , while having other targets too.
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Next , hidan avoiding kagemane while dealing with asuma illustrated his reflexes/reaction in that fight , reactions which get elegantly pooed on when we have kid neji simultaneously avoiding dozens of targets by milliseconds while having to deal with dozens more simultaneously comin straight after the other and in bulks , and that's not taking it account all the extra targets

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and that's scaled down to a genin kid neji.

I already addressed why kakashi/asuma had to fight hidan the way they did. Hidan is in the same league as them in cqc (4.5) , is immortal , has a scythe which he can easily control via rope , and is pretty fast himself (3.5) so hes about as dangerous as u can , especially when u take into account that shinobi don't carelessly use/abuse shunshin for obvious reasons , I think draegod made a thread about it.

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And hidans stat in the db obviously pertains to movement speed , same as choji/neji/kakashi or anyone , take of it wat u will , not to mention u cant even prove hidan used shunshin itself in any of the scans u provided as easily as I can prove it was utilized here ,

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Unless any seeminly fast paced movement is gonna be determined as shunshin now.

Man that post is for icelereate. I have to quote your other post. I won't quote 2 super long posts.

And my quote "those distance mean nothing to shinobi standars" only apply when the shinobi is doing it alone against time. But when they're two shinobis, that distance is a parameter, if Hidan pressures Kakashi from that distance, and Kakashi had that same distance to react, they both have the same parameter to measure the speed. But when it's used when Neji blitzed Kidomaru, it was Neji vs acceleration of gravity.

 

[neosmith500]

Man that post is for icelereate. I have to quote your other post. I won't quote 2 super long posts.

And my quote "those distance mean nothing to shinobi standars" only apply when the shinobi is doing it alone against time. But when they're two shinobis, that distance is a parameter, if Hidan pressures Kakashi from that distance, and Kakashi had that same distance to react, they both have the same parameter to measure the speed. But when it's used when Neji blitzed Kidomaru, it was Neji vs acceleration of gravity.

I only did so since I saw that he didn't reply yet and wanted to give my input on all the points I disagree with lol I had to , I was compelled to lol.

Ur other point about speed standards is noted ,which is why I gave u p1 neji covering the same distance ur hyping hidan of crossing ina short amount of time which I also why I never ever used the 50m kido feat in any of my arguments.

-Also wat u call pressuring I call casually reacting to , the only pressuring done was steamed from kakusu and hidan working in sequence.

I kno it wasn't my post to reply to but I literally addressed everything in that posts which also correlates to the thread at hand.

Anyway man talk later and I knew u would have kakashi and p2 neji as a main in nun5 lol , mine are p2 neji followed by itachi then ts sasuke.

 

[Curse Mark]

Yo anyone who thinks that the distance Neji cleared on that branch when Kidomaru used that gold spear is equal to the distance Hidan cleared- smack yourself.

 

[EZQ]

Yo anyone who thinks that the distance Neji cleared on that branch when Kidomaru used that gold spear is equal to the distance Hidan cleared- smack yourself.

never said that

 

[Curse Mark]

never said that

Never said you did...? I said anyone who thinks that. Namely the kid who said that.

 

[EZQ]

I only did so since I saw that he didn't reply yet and wanted to give my input on all the points I disagree with lol I had to , I was compelled to lol.

Ur other point about speed standards is noted ,which is why I gave u p1 neji covering the same distance ur hyping hidan of crossing ina short amount of time which I also why I never ever used the 50m kido feat in any of my arguments.

-Also wat u call pressuring I call casually reacting to , the only pressuring done was steamed from kakusu and hidan working in sequence.

I kno it wasn't my post to reply to but I literally addressed everything in that posts which also correlates to the thread at hand.

Anyway man talk later and I knew u would have kakashi and p2 neji as a main in nun5 lol , mine are p2 neji followed by itachi then ts sasuke.

How did you figure i use Kakashi? Lmao. I try to keep my fanboyism towards him as a secret.

 

[Zexion~]

Shunshin is high speed movement usin chakra to vitalize the body , hidan covering that distance is ntn special to shinobi standards when he already has 3.5 in speed. Hidan is in the same league as kakashi in taijutsu (4.5 ) so when he blind-sides him , kakashi simply countered and parried him usin his superior reflexes and reactions

This doesn't mean that Hidan can't be faster than someone who's using Shunsin, simply because he's purely physical. Also bold is wrong as if he was superior he would have countered, not barely been able to get off a block in time KNOWING that the best way to combat Hidan is to avoid his strikes as to not let him get close and obtain blood.

 

[neosmith500]

How did you figure i use Kakashi? Lmao. I try to keep my fanboyism towards him as a secret.

Ntn gets passed by 1t sharingan bru lol jk , I just thought about and instinctively knew it was kakashi with a bit of p2 neji tho kiba caught me off-quard Lil. How good is ur reactions in it? I was always praised for always being able to land on my feet whenever I got sent flying , it got to the point where my girl who mains sakura btw would always sing shakiras song (whenever, wherever ) anytime I put her face-down on the ground after recovery dwl , good times lol.

Nun series is still>>>>> storm to me despite having every single one that has ever existed.

This doesn't mean that Hidan can't be faster than someone who's using Shunsin, simply because he's purely physical. Also bold is wrong as if he was superior he would have countered, not barely been able to get off a block in time KNOWING that the best way to combat Hidan is to avoid his strikes as to not let him get close and obtain blood.

With ntn to show that hidan is superior to neji shunsin-wise , who is also purely physical and has much better chakra-control than him.

Actually bold is right , hidan blindsided kakashi in mid-air due to kakusu's combo tactics , kakashi had to re- maneuver himself to turn around and block/combat hidan and was able to successfully do so despite hidan having the mid-air offensive advantage along with his scythe.

Also kakashi didn't "barely" get off the block , he was casually countering and reacting to everything hidan did from start to finish with no sign of shock , surprise or sign of struggle while being simultaneously combo-attacked , furthermore the only time kakashi showed shock/surprise in that fight was all kakusu and they're combos unless u can prove otherwise?

Kakashi was obviously the best person to stall and handle hidan with his 3t as he did , he was able to no diff avoid getting a single strike from hidan and prevented him from getting blood all while simultaneously dealing with combo-tactics and doing so with ntn but a kunai and reflexes/reaction.

Also wat would kakashi have done to stop hidan from getting close , waste chakra using jutsu on a immortal who has a terminator w/5/hearts with him? Or simply shunsin away from hidans advances leaving his team open? , when he can easily conserve chakra for the rest of the fight by casually reacting and parrying hidans wild strikes as he did in canon , keepin the madman from his team while also keepin kakusu busy , even getting praise from hidan himself for being skilled enough to handle the guerilla-tactics the way he did , showing superior skills compared to hidan which is understandable since the guy is a genius who also has the sharingan.

Yo anyone who thinks that the distance Neji cleared on that branch when Kidomaru used that gold spear is equal to the distance Hidan cleared- smack me

I said it was about the same distance in my original post , its not so epicly far apart.

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Nevertheless I only used it to show wat genin neji was capable of when his speed was listed 3.5 compared to war arc 4.5 neji.

 

[shelke]

Kakashi was casually countering? Which is why he never went on an offense? Awesome.

 

[neosmith500]

How did you figure i use Kakashi? Lmao. I try to keep my fanboyism towards him as a secret.

Bro wats up with the debate , are u gonna reply to my first post or not?

Kakashi was casually countering? Which is why he never went on an offense? Awesome.

Wrong choice of words , he was casually reacting/parrying hidan despite hidan having the situational advantage on many occasions and he didn't go on offense because it made no sense , he already collected the sample of blood from kakusu and hidan was a vital part of they're plan to begin with.

 

[shelke]

Bro wats up with the debate , are u gonna reply to my first post or not?

Wrong choice of words , he was casually reacting/parrying hidan despite hidan having the situational advantage on many occasions and he didn't go on offense because it made no sense , he already collected the sample of blood from kakusu and hidan was a vital part of they're plan to begin with.

He never went on the offense, because he had no room to. He was absolutely having difficulty in handling Hidan in CQC. Otherwise, he would have switched between offense and defense. Going on the offense would have pushed Hidan back. You don't plan, "hey, I won't go on the offense at all, folks to break them apart."

No, in a CQC, he could have easily gone on an offense to pressure Hidan; pressuring the opponent means you have more options. And Kakuzu was more like a crash tackle for him. He didn't exactly get blood on a one on one footing.

 

[Curse Mark]

He never went on the offense, because he had no room to. He was absolutely having difficulty in handling Hidan in CQC. Otherwise, he would have switched between offense and defense. Going on the offense would have pushed Hidan back. You don't plan, "hey, I won't go on the offense at all, folks to break them apart."

No, in a CQC, he could have easily gone on an offense to pressure Hidan; pressuring the opponent means you have more options. And Kakuzu was more like a crash tackle for him. He didn't exactly get blood on a one on one footing.

This. Kakashi and Hidan were just around evenly matched. Kakashi didn't really have the opportunity to take the offensive.

 

[neosmith500]

He never went on the offense, because he had no room to. He was absolutely having difficulty in handling Hidan in CQC. Otherwise, he would have switched between offense and defense. Going on the offense would have pushed Hidan back. You don't plan, "hey, I won't go on the offense at all, folks to break them apart."

No, in a CQC, he could have easily gone on an offense to pressure Hidan; pressuring the opponent means you have more options. And Kakuzu was more like a crash tackle for him. He didn't exactly get blood on a one on one footing.

-Which is understandable given how freely hidan swinged/manipulated his long scythe , he had the range advantage and was immortal , pressuring hidan and initiating dicisive counters would in the end be null nd void due to his immortal status. No , wat kakashi did was simply react/parry all hidan's advances and moves while "simultaneously" keeping kakusu "busy" by avoidin their combos earning praise from hidan himself , the other options he couldve gained by goin full offence would've amounted to ntn more than hidan shrugging it off neg diff while his scythe givs hidan the reach advantage in combat , chidori and any other move would've been a total waste of chakra.

Take away his scythe and we have a tired shikamru reacting to his point-blank strike with enough precision to open the blood container and spill kakasus blood on the tip of his blade all while hidan himself thinks he slashed shikamaru.

The plan from the start was to gain blood then have someone lure hidan to the special area with kmaru bein the best candidate and wanted that job for himself , kakashis motive was never to "break them apart " , him gaining kakuzus blood was a testament to his quick thinking.

 

[shelke]

-Which is understandable given how freely Hidan swung/manipulated his long scythe , he had the range advantage and was immortal , pressuring hidan and initiating dicisive counters would in the end be null nd void due to his immortal status. No , wat kakashi did was simply react/parry all hidan's advances and moves while "simultaneously" keeping kakusu "busy" by avoidin their combos earning praise from hidan himself , the other options he couldve gained by goin full offence would've amounted to ntn more than hidan shrugging it off neg diff while his scythe givs hidan the reach advantage in combat , chidori and any other move would've been a total waste of chakra.

Take away his scythe and we have a tired shikamru reacting to his point-blank strike with enough precision to open the blood container and spill kakasus blood on the tip of his blade all while hidan himself thinks he slashed shikamaru.

The plan from the start was to gain blood then have someone lure hidan to the special area with kmaru bein the best candidate and wanted that job for himself , kakashis motive was never to "break them apart " , him gaining kakuzus blood was a testament to his quick thinking.

He also had Shikamaru against him, pouncing at him from the shadows. That's much more situational disadvatage compared to what Kakashi had.

That in no way nullifies what I said. He couldn't go on the offense. Hidan being immortal has nothing to do with him not opting for offense. Are you seriously suggesting that opening more options was a bad idea? You cannot be serious. Nothing in the scans imply that he was having a jolly good, easy-peasy time.

Swinging a larger weapon means, he had more CQC skill. As using a large weapon with skill is far more difficult than a small Kunai.

What kind of an argument is that; take away his weapon? Nothing implies that they agreed on Kakashi being under Hidan's and Kakuzu's boots and not going on the offense at all. This is hearsay. Where is the proof for this? Luring someone away has nothing to do with not pressuring them. Nothing at all.

 

[neosmith500]

He also had Shikamaru against him, pouncing at him from the shadows. That's much more situational disadvatage compared to what Kakashi had.

That in no way nullifies what I said. He couldn't go on the offense. Hidan being immortal has nothing to do with him not opting for offense. Are you seriously suggesting that opening more options was a bad idea? You cannot be serious. Nothing in the scans imply that he was having a jolly good, easy-peasy time.

Swinging a larger weapon means, he had more CQC skill. As using a large weapon with skill is far more difficult than a small Kunai.

What kind of an argument is that; take away his weapon? Nothing implies that they agreed on Kakashi being under Hidan's and Kakuzu's boots and not going on the offense at all. This is hearsay. Where is the proof for this? Luring someone away has nothing to do with not pressuring them. Nothing at all.

Kakashi never engaged in combat with hidan while he was simultaneously being pressured by shika's shadows even if so it was never for the duration or same level of stress which involved dealing with a hudan/kakusu combo which is way more situationally disadvantageous than that.

Even so the one time kakashi ever truly attempted to advance at hidan while he was being targeted by shika , kakusu stoped him.

-Neither did kakashi show any signs of having a hard time countering hidan , doing so even while being blindsided by hidan in mid-air yet still reacted to him with ease.

-Lol using a larger weapon means he's more skilled than kakashi? So kakashi being able to fend off hidans giant scythe which is being wielded by his superior in combat (ur logic ) with a single tiny "kunai " when all the superior party needs is a tiny "drop " of blood which he repeatedly failed to get despite being "aided " by his teammate and getting in cqc with kakashi on numerous occasions , even going so far as to "praise " kakashi on his "skill " yet I'm to believe that hidan is superior in anyway , joke ting.

 

[shelke]

Kakashi never engaged in combat with hidan while he was simultaneously being pressured by shika's shadows even if so it was never for the duration or same level of stress which involved dealing with a hudan/kakusu combo which is way more situationally disadvantageous than that.

-Neither did kakashi show any signs of having a hard time countering hidan , doing so even while being blindsided by hidan in mid-air yet still reacted to him with ease.

-Lol using a larger weapon means he's more skilled than kakashi? So kakashi being able to fend off hidans giant scythe which is being wielded by his superior in combat (ur logic ) with a single tiny "kunai " when all the superior party needs is a tiny "drop " of blood which he repeatedly failed to get despite being "aided " by his teammate and getting in cqc with kakashi on numerous occasions , even going so far as to "praise " kakashi on his "skill " yet I'm to believe that hidan is superior in anyway , joke ting.

I am talking about CQC only. With Kakuzu on his tail, pressuring Hidan would have made his job easier. You denying this is very odd. Going on an offense for any opponent means more choices and more options. It is never a bad idea.

Not going on an offense is proof enough. What do you mean blind-sided? It's a battle. Don't make excuses for Kakashi.

Look at the way he swings it. It's a very unconventional style as he even using his string to make precision strikes against CQC professionals:

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Kakashi, obviously, doesn't compare in skill.

 

[neosmith500]

I am talking about CQC only. With Kakuzu on his tail, pressuring Hidan would have made his job easier. You denying this is very odd. Going on an offense for any opponent means more choices and more options. It is never a bad idea.

Not going on an offense is proof enough. What do you mean blind-sided? It's a battle. Don't make excuses for Kakashi.

Look at the way he swings it. It's a very unconventional style as he even using his string to make precision strikes against CQC professionals:

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Kakashi, obviously, doesn't compare in skill.

I know wat u meant , anytime hidan rushed him , he reacted and was able to fend him off every step of the way without getting touched while on the flip side kakashi never once tried to rush/attack/pressure hidan until that one time he was stopped by kakusu , meanwhile we have kakashi simultaneously reacting to hidan and kakusus combos.

blindsided means exactly that , hidan blindside kakashi after hidan forced him in the air via katon , kakashi then had to remaneuver from his blind spot to react to hidan who was in a more comfortable spot which promted hidan to praise him for his skill while kakshi never made any single mention of how hard it is to handle hidan nor did he show any signs of having a hard time so the burden of prove is on u.

So hidan usin his unconventional style usin his cord means hes obviously more skilled in cqc than kakashi ? so I can also deduce that hes also better than gai based on this insane string feat huh?

 

[shelke]

I know wat u meant , anytime hidan rushed him , he reacted and was able to fend him off every step of the way without getting touched while on the flip side kakashi never once tried to rush/attack/pressure hidan until that one time he was stopped by kakusu , meanwhile we have kakashi simultaneously reacting to hidan and kakusus combos.

blindsided means exactly that , hidan blindside kakashi after hidan forced him in the air via katon , kakashi then had to remaneuver from his blind spot to react to hidan who was in a more comfortable spot which promted hidan to praise him for his skill while kakshi never made any single mention of how hard it is to handle hidan nor did he show any signs of having a hard time so the burden of prove is on u.

So hidan usin his unconventional style usin his cord means hes obviously more skilled in cqc than kakashi ? so I can also deduce that hes also better than gai based on this insane string feat huh?

I never claimed he wasn't able to defend. You are more than welcome to point it out. Hidan also was literally fighting with shadows. That is a lot more difficult to evade than visible opponents:

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Hidan was also reacting to Shikamau and Kakashi and keeping up with Kakazu's strategy as well. That's also a lot to keep up with and he was constantly pressuring Kakashi.

I am sorry, this is a battle. Using the term "blind-side" is an excuse, when all party's are going all out on the grounds.

Obviously. His weapon is very big and requires swinging. Even then Kakashi couldn't find any opening to deal with him. No matter which way you look at this, Kakashi is the less skilled one, I'm afraid.