War Arc Neji VS Hidan

[neosmith500]

Okay sorry for the delay. If you want to skip the arguments, just go for the final paragraph, the capitals bold, point c)





You stated that Neji can stop anything Hidan throws at him. Cool, Hidan doesn’t throw things around, he maneouvers his schyte with the rope, so if Neji alters it’s trajectory, Hidan simply puts it back on road.

This, plus the fact that Hidan is faster than Neji, and can use his sunshin speed and his unorthodox style to make up for his slow attacks


We have Hidan being fast and agile enough to land strikes in Asuma at the same time he dodges the shadow. Pluse we have him pressuring Kakashi despite having his schyte broken and not being able to perform the rope pulling that he did against Asuma as a surprise attack (this is a huge factor people often over sees).
So, If Neji keeps that chakra thing up, not only he’d dry too fast, it wouldn’t be useful, since Hidan can put his schyte back on track by pulling the rope.
Neji was only able to barely change the arrows trajectory to not get killed. Completely different from an ability that allows him to take out any incoming projectile. ]

He throws his scythe around and manipulates it via rope , while within the zone of neji's chakra field its movements obviously wont be so easily controlled due to the chakra constantly altering its trajectory.

The chakra field was capable of shifting the trajectory of a arrow moving with so much speed and force it rips through entire forrests and bend trees by by simply flying in close proximity , hidans scythe doesn't carry even half the force and power of that arrow , his scythe and rope gets weighed down by the chakra.

this was done by a weakened and badly injured p1 genin neji , after he previously used multiple rotations and chakra related moves in the fight beforehand not to mention they all just came from havin their chakras drained by jirobo.

Fresh war arc neji cant even be compared to genin neji yet u think usin his chakra barrier will drain him fast , yet it never did so to a badly injured and weakned p1 neji who used numerous chakra taxing moves before even using the barrier and was still using chakra and byakugan up on till his death bed.
So no , a fresh war arc neji will not run dry too fast unless weakened part1>>war arc neji in chakra amount?? so war arc neji easy handles multiply uses of the chakra barrier with so problem and the barrier will in fact stop hidan from properly ultilizing his style via rope manipulation and accuracy.

Now onto ur next point , by kishi's own illustration neji has the taijutsu stats as the two ninjas who ur praising hidan of bein able to keep up , along with havin the same taijutsu stats as hidan himself , while neji's speed is the exact same as the aforementioned ninjas (4.5), who are both >> hidan in speed (3.5).

The whole reason asuma had to fight the way he did despite bein faster was because of hidans abilities and his unorthodox use of his weapon and rope , asuma would never risk usin full speed on hidan and the only thing he did try to corner hidan into the shadow jutsu but due to hidans epic use and skill with his scythe it ended badly for him.

Him pressuring kakashi was mostly him rushing in , swinging his scythe around (which has epic reach btw ) while he screamed like a maniac , again in this case kakashi had to fight that way due to hidans abilities , obviously backing off and parrying hidan's attacks was the best thing to do due to immortality and his long scythe which has way more reach than kakashis simply kunai , I cant recall kakashi even rushing hidan at all , only parried , backed off and reacted to his attacks.

The only reason why asuma and kakashi didn't use their full superior 4.5 speed against hidans 3.5 is simply due to his immortality , superior weapon reach coupled with rope and the fact thaat hidans highly skilled in taijutsu (4.5 in tai ) with neji having the exact same stat them.

Smh. Neji’s only way to block Hidan’s schyte is via rotation. Which he can’t hold on forever. Hidan waits for the rotation to stop and pulls the rope right back at Neji. Gaining just one drop of blood is more than enough.
And for the ones who say “Neji easely dodges it”, no. Neji has 360° but still, he couldn’t fully react to white zetsu which he did clearly see coming thanks to his almost full panoramic vision.

So, despite having that field of vision, his reaction speed is not instant.

Neji has multiple ways of blocking his scythe with this bein one and don't even tell me his scythe would rip through it when the chakra has feats of shifting the trajectory of forrest busting arrows , byakugan spots it and chakra blocks the area its intended to hit without needing to expel from the whole body and costing way less chakra this can be used to easily stop the attacks that asuma could not , ROTATION IS ONLY NEEDED IN "UR HEAD NED".

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Now onto ur point about zetzu , using a scan show casing a mostly off-panel fight is cute , wats also cute is the fact that u missed neji saying "theres too many of them " along with the fact that zetsus are basically untraceable.

Let me spoon feed u a bit of info , the byakugan does not always actively see in 360 at all times , the vision of the user can also be focused elsewhere as we've seen here , neji was focused on wat he thought was the real naruto and despite having the ability to see 360 up to 50m , he somehow missed two naruto clones weren't even coming from half that distance and surely they didn't hide both hide inside his blindspot.

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Another instance to prove my case is here , immediately after performing kaiten , neji had to expand his 360 vison to map the incoming kunai with the visons zone bein perfectly illustrated to the reader by kishi.

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Another instance is when sakura struck kaguya from above so in all instances it requied a strong form of distraction and plot for them to get caught from behind and hidan neither has the means to distract and trick neji in the form of clones like naruto , he cant pressure him with raingin simultaneous waves of attacks like kido , nor is neji fighting an army of hidans like in that zetsu scan , anytime the byakugan was caught slipin was due to numbers , this match is a 1 v 1 with hidan , his rope and scythe.

This is a joke.
-Hidan is faster than Neji in movement speed and reflexes (1- pressured Kakashi, 2- hit Asuma while dodging Shikamaru’s attack). The only thing Neji surpasses him in cqc is his striking speed, which Hidan makes up with Unorthodox style and unpredictable moves as against Asuma, who needed to be warned 2 TIMES to be able to dodge Hidan’s strikes.
-Neji does not have a single feat that puts him above Asuma or Kakashi in reflexes or raw speed. So if you’re gonna hype his Taijutsu, do it against someone that is below Hidan’s level.]

By kishi's illustration , neji/kakashi/asuma>>>> in speed already addressed why hidan did the things he did.
Hidan , the guy whose immortal and doesn't care much for dodging due to it , having better/faster reflexes than the guy who was doding rainin amounts of kunai/webs/spiders by millisecond intervals as a genin intervals is laughable , by feats and scaling and logic war arc neji is better in reaction than hidan , take away the epic reach of hidans scythe and we have shikamaru reacting to his strike and going so far as to spill his kakusus blood on his blade.

Lmao, this guy actually resorted to Neji attacking Hidan’s eyes.
If Neji ever gets that close to Hidan, believe me he won’t have the time to be so precise. You’re acting like Hidan is a steady target or something
-Hidan uses his superior sunshin to get out of range
-Hidan gets close to him and by the price of getting hit, he gets the drop of blod, thus winning the match]

Its a perfectly logical and plausible course of action in this unconventional fight.
-Yet even shika had time be precise enough to trolling hidan in the middle of his attack yet a taiujtsu specialist like neji who is abnormally talented with his precision even by hyuga standards cant? yet im to believe u lol , no thanks.

-Show one instance of hidan usin this superior shunshin and then prove its faster than neji's ib4 scans of hidan rushing kakashi.

-Hidan gets close to him and gets any attack he attempts blocked by chakra , how does he even get that drop of blood to thus win the match if neji blocks his attacks with chakra? the schyte is not too fast for neji to react nor is is fast enough to escape neji's byakugan , or strong enough to penetrate the chakra.

Hidan’s schyte doesn’t get affected by this category since it’s not a simple projectile that is thrown, Hidan can perfectly handle it’s trajectory. And Hidan moves faster than Neji (movement sunshin speed) so he uses that speed to approach neji and attack him from a close distance, leaving Neji no more choice than using Kaiten. Which, as already explained, drains Neji, and Hidan attacks again while Neji can’t keep rotation for ever.]

Already addressed how its irrelevant with it bein a projectile or not , its still drastically slowed by the chakra , even more so since its controlled via rope and is comin with way less force than kido's arrows , the only reason why neji was able to "barely " shift the trajectory of the arrows was due to their intense speed and force , hidans swings and rope controlled momentum attacks get shifted much more easily and according to kishi neji moves faster than hidan but either way ,if according to u neji has time to use kaiten , then he obviously has time for the first stage of kaiten which is the chakra expulsion used block attacks , which immediately crumbles ur bait and wait tactic.

Again with the Keen reflexes things. Already showed that Neji’s reflexes are below Asuma’s and Kakashi’s until proven otherwhise (and lol you wont). If Neji keeps the chakra defence up (which as already explained doesn’t fully counter Hidan’s attack) then this turns into a battle of attrition, which is won by the guy that cannot get tired.]

So pulling feats like this as a genin (rookie ninja ) doesn't require keen reflexes? , this is ntn but "keen reflexes " right her bud rflexes and would've only advanced in his journey from genin to jonin to war arc era.

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-U never proved asuma >>> war arc neji in reflexes nor is it revelant when asuma , kakashi , hidan and neji all have the exact same stats in taijutsu and speed equally , sharingan kakashi>>>> hidan in reaction but hidan (4.5 in tai ) can hang with kakashi/asuma (4.5 in tai ) and with his ' immortality , deadly scythe range and extended control of it along with his 4.5 in tai , his inferiority in speed is balanced by his skill in taijutsu and skill-set.

I don’t mess with Databook. If Neji was as fast as Kakashi and Hebi sasuke, he wouldn’t have been traped by a zetsu.
There are different types of speed. That 4.5 probably goes to Neji’s striking speed. Since Hidan’s body speed is by feats superior to neji’s.]

I could care less if u don't mess with it thb , ur usin a off-panel fight scenario depicting a scan of neji shown after he's already been fighting a army of untraceable zetsus who were so much in number it was noted that "there were too many' , I already addressed the short-comings of the bykugans 360 vision , with great numbers or a reasonable enough distraction , enough for the user to completely shift focus by his own accord or by other means

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-Dude stop , that would mean that CE lees speed would be higher than CE neji's attacking speed , and neji lands 32 stikes nigh instantly , speed stat in the DB stands for movement speed of all chaaracters , it doesn't branch off towards the different types of speeds to serve ur benefit lol gtfoh , by literal written illustration made by maker , neji beginning of part2>>>> hidan body speed.

Every char who has ever been stated or shown as bein fast were given 4.5 and 5's in the databook with no exceptions , neji has the same speed stats as notable fast chars and has great speed feats in p1 to scale up , so why should I listen to u over listening to the maker of the manga we're debating when he clearly puts a gap between their speeds (4.5 Vs 3.5 ) with both bein relatively equal in taijutsu (4.5 Vs 4.5 ) meaning one wont wtf-pound the other in straight cqc , now go bring prove that hidans 35 in speed is >>> neji's 4.5 or drop this speed argument.

-The only tactic you could come up with for Neji is to attack hidan’s eyes? Lol, I don’t blame you anyways. Hidan is faster than him and can dodge Neji’s faster strikes.
-So Hidan only needs to draw a little drop of blood from Neji to win this
-Once Hidan gets the blood, Neji has to KILL HIM.
a) How Neji actually wins this
b) How Neji doesn’t get fully outlasted if he keeps that much chakra out of his body constantly
c) How neji would KILL AN IMMORTAL GUY VIA GENTLE FIST WHILE NOT GETTING A SIMPLE DROP OF BLOOD OUT OF YOUR BODY, WHILE THIS SAME GUY BEATS IN TAIJUTSU ASUMA (WHICH BY FEATS IS SUPERIOR THAN NEJI) AND IS FAST ENOUGH TO PRESSURE KAKASHI

-5 in speed is faster than 3.5 in speed. ib4 neji has no feats or hidan pressuring kakashi when hes immortal and has same tier taijutsu skills and scythe.

a) Neji wins by getting the upper hand in cqc with his superior attacking speed , taijutsu
and chakra control to press hidans eyes and using his chakra barrier mixed with his equal taijutsu (4.5) he can effectively out-perform him and cut at his limbs/head , even shika was able to cut straight into his neck only failing to decap him due to it not bein deep enough.

b) p1 neji was flexing chakra control and kaiten for a long periods of time and even had his chakra drained in the SRA , yet a fresh war arc neji is getting dried up by releasing a barrier for long enough to best hidan a few times in cqc when he was constanly doing this as a genin while injured and havin been chakra taxed and spittin up blood beforehand? dude stop , are u saying hidan is gonna run around?

c) Its a process , hes gonna disable hidan usin jyuken via the eyes , drop of blood is avoided with chakra control , again with the feats , by kishi fact asuma=kakashi=hidan=neji in taijutsu tier and by manga-fact neji has the arsenal which asuma/kakashi lack. Instances where asuma was nipped and caught off-guard by hidans rope/scythe would get easy seen and blocked by chakra , its all about match-up bru im getting tired of spoon feeding u this , neji wins low diff.


Sorry for the mess , im using my phone and almost lostr everything I wrote lol sorry sorry.

 

[The Arizen]

Neji still wins.

 

[Curse Mark]

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EZQ better destroy this post.

 

[The Arizen]

EZQ better destroy this post.

He better because neo brings valid points which I myself agree with.

 

[ToshiZO]

Again his post relies too much on the databook stat which has been debunked.

This is a 4.5 going against a 3.5 in speed.

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And there is no excuse of a longer reach (like that even matters) here as Hidan is not even using his scythe like he claimed.

There is also an equivalent shunsin clash by Kakashi (4.5 again) and Hidan (3.5).

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With neither gaining an upper hand.

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And if anything having a heavier weapon should actually slow you down in a clash such as this, so it being used an excuse is a weak argument.

The databook speed argument has been shown to be flawed time and time again.

 

[EZQ]

Yes Hidan wins. Good post EZQ, but i repped you too recently.

Lol thanks. Rep doesn't mean a lot anyways. Thanks for reading it.

And i'll post, believe it!

(Tomorrow almost for sure)

 

[The Arizen]

Again his post relies too much on the databook stat which has been debunked.

This is a 4.5 going against a 3.5 in speed.

And there is no excuse of a longer reach (like that even matters) here as Hidan is not even using his scythe like he claimed.

There is also an equivalent shunsin clash by Kakashi (4.5 again) and Hidan (3.5).

And if anything having a heavier weapon should actually slow you down in a clash such as this, so it being used an excuse is a weak argument.

The databook speed argument has been shown to be flawed time and time again.

And neji can't replicate those feats with his (4.5 ) in taijutsu same as kakashi , asuma and hidan along with his (4.5 ) in speed? also is proof available that hidan and kakashi even used shunshin in that scan or full speed in asuma's and kakashi's case?

Neo already handled it , he outlined valid reasons why it would logically make no sense for them to use their full speeds since :
A) Too risky fighting a immortal who has same taijutsu as them (4.5)

B) His scythe and rope does give very dangerous reach and maneuverability , too dangerous to gun at a guy like that using top speed.

People can use the fact that hyugas have 2 in db for genjutsu to conclude that hyugas are not good at genjutsu and the fact that itachi has a 5 in genjutsu and speed to conclude he's highly skilled in gen and very fast in speed , yet its flawed when used to conclude that neji is also strong in areas we're debating?

 

[ToshiZO]

And neji can't replicate those feats with his (4.5 ) in taijutsu same as kakashi , asuma and hidan along with his (4.5 ) in speed? also is proof available that hidan and kakashi even used shunshin in that scan even full speed in asuma's and kakashi's case?

Neo already handled it , he outlined valid reasons why it would logically make no sense for them to use their full speeds since :
A) Too risky fighting a immortal who has same taijutsu as them (4.5)

B) His scythe and rope does give very dangerous reach and maneuverability , too dangerous to gun at a guy like that using top speed.

1.Feats aren't just handed out.

2.Those reasons don't make any sense.

I already showed the panel where he wasn't even using his scythe = excuse thrown out the window.

And a bigger weapon would slow you down if anything = excuse makes for a weak argument.

Just grasping at straws rn.

People can use the fact that hyugas have 2 in db for genjutsu to conclude that hyugas are not good at genjutsu and the fact that itachi has a 5 in genjutsu and speed to conclude he's highly skilled in gen and very fast in speed , yet its flawed when used to conclude that neji is also strong in areas we're debating?

Bruh when feats contradict something you obviously go by feats.

Manga > DB. When there aren't enough feats then sure I guess. But in this case, Hidan has feats making the databook stats meaningless. Thus that entire stat can be thrown in the trash can.

 

[The Arizen]

1.Feats aren't just handed out.

2.Those reasons don't make any sense.

I already showed the panel where he wasn't even using hcan't juscythe = excuse thrown out the window.

And a bigger weapon would slow you down if anything = excuse makes for a weak argument.

Just grasping at straws rn.

And the fact that u think he can't with his equal speed and tai to the guys who did so is baseless.

Neo didn't even use hidan having the scythe as a big argument , he used the fact that hidans immortal and has great skill in wielding that giant weapon and is (4.5) in taijutsu.

Neo is making no excuses here gun , only valid reasoning which others also agree with myself included.

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2.Those reasons don't make any sense.

Tell me wat doesn't male sense about this , plz do I'm begging u.


"Neo already handled it , he outlined valid reasons why it would logically make no sense for them to use their full speed since:
A) Too risky fighting a immortal who has same taijutsu as them (4.5)

B) His scythe and rope does give very dangerous reach and maneuverability , too dangerous to gun at a guy like that using top speed."

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Bruh when feats contradict something you obviously go by feats.

Manga > DB. When there aren't enough feats then sure I guess. But in this case, Hidan has feats making the databook stats meaningless. Thus that entire stat can be thrown in the trash can.

But the feats don't contradict anything , hidan has great taijutsu (4.5) , hes immortal and has great speed , are u saying that kakashi , hidan and asuma are the exact same speed due to 2 clashes?

 

[KeyofDestinys]

c) How neji would KILL AN IMMORTAL GUY VIA GENTLE FIST WHILE NOT GETTING A SIMPLE DROP OF BLOOD OUT OF YOUR BODY, WHILE THIS SAME GUY BEATS IN TAIJUTSU ASUMA (WHICH BY FEATS IS SUPERIOR THAN NEJI) AND IS FAST ENOUGH TO PRESSURE KAKASHI

You really don't think before you type do you? Neji wins.

When he swings the sythe at neji, he blocks it away and hidans body running to him is open for the kill. Chakra points blocked he can't move and Neji wins.

1.Feats aren't just handed out.

2.Those reasons don't make any sense.

I already showed the panel where he wasn't even using his scythe = excuse thrown out the window.

And a bigger weapon would slow you down if anything = excuse makes for a weak argument.

Just grasping at straws rn.



Bruh when feats contradict something you obviously go by feats.

Manga > DB. When there aren't enough feats then sure I guess. But in this case, Hidan has feats making the databook stats meaningless. Thus that entire stat can be thrown in the trash can.

You can't be serious. It being bigger doesn't mean its heavier and your base speed doesn't determine your shunshin. All shunshin is the same near instant movement so the speed argument holds and you have no point. read the databook and stop denying facts. Neji wins plain and simple.

 

[ToshiZO]

But the feats don't contradict anything , hidan has great taijutsu (4.5) , hes immortal and has great speed , are u saying that kakashi , hidan and asuma are the exact same speed due to 2 clashes?

Care to tell me the difference then? What does a difference of 1 even mean, how would that be applied in the manga?

"He's slower" Ok in the battles he had in the manga that clearly wasn't shown, so what now, how much slower is he, would you happen to know?

You really don't think before you type do you? Neji wins.

When he swings the sythe at neji, he blocks it away and hidans body running to him is open for the kill. Chakra points blocked he can't move and Neji wins.

Pretty sure if you have your head chopped off, you shouldn't be able to scream at the top of your lungs, or have full out conversations. Trying to apply regular logic to Hidan's body, whether it is chakra related or blood related is a flaw.

 

[The Arizen]

Care to tell me the difference then? What does a difference of 1 even mean, how would that be applied in the manga?

"He's slower" Ok in the battles he had in the manga that clearly wasn't shown, so what now, how much slower is he, would you happen to know?


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Irrelevant , neo already outlined the reasons for his performance , great reasons to.

its already addressed , hidan has relatively equal tai (4.5 ) and great speed , show proof why asuma and kakashi were using full speed or shunshin , then tell me why it would make sense for kakashi and asuma to gun at an immortal with a giant rope twisting scythe at their full speed.

Logic it seems is dead.

Data book>>> u and it says kakashi , asuma and neji are faster than hidan and have relatively equal tai (4.5) I'm not gonna up and listen to u simply because u think hidan is as fast as kakashi , asuma and faster than neji because of two clashes when the maker clearly disagrees with this flawed notion.

 

[KeyofDestinys]

Care to tell me the difference then? What does a difference of 1 even mean, how would that be applied in the manga?

"He's slower" Ok in the battles he had in the manga that clearly wasn't shown, so what now, how much slower is he, would you happen to know?




Pretty sure if you have your head chopped off, you shouldn't be able to scream at the top of your lungs, or have full out conversations. Trying to apply regular logic to Hidan's body, whether it is chakra related or blood related is a flaw.

Hidan being immortal doesn't mean he can instantly regenerate damage. Read the Manga he can be cut, bleeds and be blown to bits just like your argument.

 

[Bogard]

I wonder if Hidan's ritual requires chakra(been a while).
Maybe if Neji manages to stop his tenketsu, it could stop him from using the technique
Either way with the rotation, Hidan will have a hard time getting through his defense
Depends on the difference in their speed though

 

[ToshiZO]

Hidan being immortal doesn't mean he can instantly regenerate damage. Read the Manga he can be cut, bleeds and be blown to bits just like your argument.

As long as it is internal damage, Hidan shrugs it off, whether it is via instant regen or whatever else.

He can move around just fine with a blade going right through his spine ,you should not be able to stand properly.

When he stabbed himself in the femur Asuma couldn't even stand on that leg, while he was moving around just fine.

It doesn't matter if you feel pain or not if your bone is broken it won't function, if your spine is broken/ fractured whether you are immortal or not is irrelevant you won't be able to stand up straight. He isn't a zombie who is ignoring the pain, his body just works differently.

Irrelevant , neo already outlined the reasons for his performance , great reasons to.

its already addressed , hidan has relatively equal tai (4.5 ) and great speed , show proof why asuma and kakashi were using full speed or shunshin , then tell me why it would make sense for kakashi and asuma to gun at an immortal with a giant rope twisting scythe at their full speed.

Logic it seems is dead.

lmfao once again, gtfo here with that nonsense when I literally linked you to a panel of Hidan not using his scythe at all. I'm showing you proof, you are writing a story it seems.

 

[KeyofDestinys]

As long as it is internal damage, Hidan shrugs it off, whether it is via instant regen or whatever else.

He can move around just fine with a blade going right through his spine ,you should not be able to stand properly.

When he stabbed himself in the femur Asuma couldn't even stand on that leg, while he was moving around just fine.

It doesn't matter if you feel pain or not if your bone is broken it won't function, if your spine is broken/ fractured whether you are immortal or not is irrelevant you won't be able to stand up straight. He isn't a zombie who is ignoring the pain, his body just works differently.



lmfao once again, gtfo here with that nonsense when I literally linked you to a panel of Hidan not using his scythe at all. I'm showing you proof, you are writing a story it seems.

So hischakra point will be damaged but still work to make chakra so i guess Hidan has infinite chakra since his chakra system can't be put out of service. Oh mah ghad you make so much sense. i don't know who's the wrst between you EZQ and CurseMurked. Goodbye.

 

[The Arizen]

lmfao once again, gtfo here with that nonsense when I literally linked you to a panel of Hidan not using his scythe at all. I'm showing you proof, you are writing a story it seems.

Lol ur acting like a clown dude , "hidan is relatively equal to top tier tai users with (4.5) in tai , him with or without his scythe is dangerous because its not the weapon bit instead the person using the weapon who is skilled and if u can't see how the scythe and rope gives a great advantage then so be it.

Logic is dead with this one it seems.

 

[ToshiZO]

So hischakra point will be damaged but still work to make chakra so i guess Hidan has infinite chakra since his chakra system can't be put out of service. Oh mah ghad you make so much sense. i don't know who's the wrst between you EZQ and CurseMurked. Goodbye.

lmao take your leave then since you clearly failed with your earlier point.

Now that you know his body doesn't work like you thought it does, you can resort to clowning.

Lol ur acting like a clown dude , "hidan is relatively equal to top tier tai users with (4.5) in tai , him with or without his scythe is dangerous because its not the weapon bit instead the person using the weapon who is skilled and if u can't see how the scythe gives a great advantage then so be it.

Logic is dead with this one it seems.

lmfao are you serious right now? You keep eating your own words. Im not the one bringing the scythe up as an excuse here.

 

[The Arizen]

lmfao are you serious right now? You keep eating your own words. Im not the one bringing the scythe up as an excuse here.

I'm not using the scythe as excuse at all lol ur the one bringin irrelevant crap to discussion by bringing up hidan fighting without his scyth , kishi made it clear that the guy is skilled cqc (4.5) so why is it relevant if he's using his scythe or not when the guy is clearly skilled in cqc.

Keep fighting the good fight beavis.

 

[ToshiZO]

I'm not using the scythe as excuse at all lol ur the one bringin irrelevant crap to discussion by bringing up hidan fighting without his scyth , kishi made it clear that the guy is skilled cqc (4.5) so why is it relevant if he's using his scythe or not when the guy is clearly skilled in cqc.

Keep fighting the good fight beavis.

you still haven't told me what the difference in speed is. Calculate it for me will ya.

Also now you are clearly lying lol.

"His scythe and rope does give very dangerous reach and maneuverability , too dangerous to gun at a guy like that using top speed."

-You used that as a point.

-I bring in a panel where the scythe wasn't even used.

-You acting like you didn't use that.