Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

[ComplexCity]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Who said anything about sapping chakra? Pretty sure I said neutralize.

If a clone is destroyed by a kunai, then the kunai indirectly neutralized the chakra by destroying the clone, causing the chakra that consist it to be dispersed. That doesn't mean the kunai has the ability to neutralize chakra, it means chakra is indirectly nuetralized as a result of a clone being destroyed.

Amaterasu neutralizes chakra by burning it, and is likely what happened when Amaterasu was set to the cave while infused with NE.

If you dont even know what the thread is about why are you even posting? The OP states the NE was sapped and that's what made the cave revert

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

If you done even know what the thread is about why are you even posting? The OP states the NE was sapped

And I'm saying it was neutralized. I am not arguing for Dantee, I am arguing for me

 

[ComplexCity]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

And I'm saying it was neutralized. I am not arguing for Dantee, I am arguing for me

he basically unintentionally conceded to/argued for our point.

What you stated is what I said the OP said that it reverted because NE was sapped from the cave. Again why are posting if you don't read or know what's going on?

 

[deadp00l]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Imagine if Sasuke infuse senjutsu into his Amaterasu, that would be too OP.

He did actually when, juugo gave him his chakra, that was the reason the size of amaterasu drastically increased

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Well, it was NE that gave the spikes life, and Amaterasu reverted it back to normal. I haven't heard of caves reforming or stone moving because of heat.

Because kishi writes manga after consulting 2 kg heavy encyclopedia of science.

You are really telling me that in all the years of reading naruto you never found anything that's not factually correct.

What's there to argue when its written that the heat made the cave revert back, a cave that was at that time alive.

Ever heard of stone coming to life?

 

[Dantee]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Based off what Riker stated it makes plenty of sense. Shadow Clones are living and are reverted to nothing after being overpowered and you literally just agreed with him.

You just said likes are opinionated and now they represent facts? Oh lawd

Bruh I just said i was using your logic against you. Wow talk about dense af. Shadow clones and muki tensei are two different jutsus and shadow clones feel pain.

 

[ComplexCity]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Bruh I just said i was using your logic against you. Wow talk about dense af. Shadow clones and muki tensei are two different jutsus and shadow clones feel pain.

What does feeling pain have to do with anything? Shadow clone have the ability to feel pain and can still remain.

Shadow Clones and Muki Tensei work in the same way. Since the cave reverted after Amateratsu was used on it then Kunai can sap chakra because Shadow Clones revert

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

What you stated is what I said the OP said that it reverted because NE was sapped from the cave. Again why are posting if you don't read or know what's going on?

"Our point" as in NE was removed by Amaterasu. Just his wording of how it was removed is different from mine.

I posted because I agree with Dantee that the NE was removed, not because it was removed via sapping.

He did actually when, juugo gave him his chakra, that was the reason the size of amaterasu drastically increased

I don't think we can really say his Amaterasu increased in size, since that's the first time he used it. We don't have a prior case of him using Amaterasu to compare it to.

He was also focusing on the creation of Amaterasu for a moment, rather than a quick spawn.

Because kishi writes manga after consulting 2 kg heavy encyclopedia of science.

You are really telling me that in all the years of reading naruto you never found anything that's not factually correct.

What's there to argue when its written that the heat made the cave revert back, a cave that was at that time alive.

Ever heard of stone coming to life?

What are you talking about? I simply said I don't know if heat reforming caves or rocks was a real thing, which was an invitation for someone to explain to me in the case that it was. I never said Kishi has never done something that wasn't factually correct, I simply said if heat having that affect in caves was factually correct, I didn't know about it.

 

[Dantee]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

What does feeling pain have to do with anything? Shadow clone have the ability to feel pain and can still remain.

Shadow Clones and Muki Tensei work in the same way. Since the cave reverted after Amateratsu was used on it then Kunai can sap chakra because Shadow Clones revert

Nope one is a clone. One brings NE into the atmosphere. The inner workings are completely different. Not very comparable in this instance.

 

[ComplexCity]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

"Our point" as in NE was removed by Amaterasu. Just his wording of how it was removed is different from mine.

I posted because I agree with Dantee that the NE was removed, not because it was removed via sapping.

I don't think we can really say his Amaterasu increased in size, since that's the first time he used it. We don't have a prior case of him using Amaterasu to compare it to.

He was also focusing on the creation of Amaterasu for a moment, rather than a quick spawn.



What are you talking about?

Herp derp if you read then you'll see I said the same exact thing you said. But you're Riker the Parrot I forgot


Dantee's argument is that

1. It was removed via sapping

2. Amateratsu has the ability to destroy NE

Yet he can prove neither of these things

 

[ComplexCity]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Nope one is a clone. One brings NE into the atmosphere. The inner workings are completely different. Not very comparable in this instance.

They are both alive so it is relevant

You claim Amateratsu sapped the NE from the atmosphere even when it used on the cave itself and made the cave revert

I'm telling you that kunai made the shadow clone revert after destroying it so therefore it has the ability to sap chakra


You see how dumb you sound?

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Herp derp if you read then you'll see I said the same exact thing you said. But you're Riker the Parrot I forgot


Dantee's argument is that

1. It was removed via sapping

2. Amateratsu has the ability to destroy NE

Yet he can prove neither of these things

The bolded is what I am agreeing with, and why I said "our" argument.

Amaterasu neutralizing the life in Inorganic Reanimation can function as proof of that.

 

[Dantee]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

They are both alive so it is relevant

You claim Amateratsu sapped the NE from the atmosphere even when it used on the cave itself and made the cave revert

I'm telling you that kunai made the shadow clone revert after destroying it so therefore it has the ability to sap chakra


You see how dumb you sound?

Yh I'm dumb I completely forgot shadow clones are made by throwing NE into the atmosphere.

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Muki Tensei isn't shadow clone. I have to go now Complex,I'm not conceding understand, I have to leave for a while. We know how you get.

 

[ComplexCity]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

The bolded is what I am agreeing with, and why I said "our" argument.

Amaterasu neutralizing the life in Inorganic Reanimation can function as proof of that.

@bold
With no proof


So kunai can destroy chakra

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

@bold
With no proof


So kunai can destroy chakra

In the case of a Shadow Clone, it can indirectly do so.

Amaterasu burning Nature Energy is not the same thing as a kunai destroying a clone, and causing the chakra to disperse, because Amaterasu would be directly destroying the NE by burning it.

 

[ComplexCity]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

In the case of a Shadow Clone, it can indirectly do so.

Amaterasu burning Nature Energy is not the same thing as a kunai destroying a clone, and causing the chakra to disperse, because Amaterasu would be directly destroying the NE by burning it.

Yeah I think I'm done here. When you find manga panels proving your conjecture holler at my VM

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

Yeah I think I'm done here. When you find manga panels proving your conjecture holler at my VM

You're being unreasonably difficult.

When a kunai hits a shadow clone, the clone is destroyed, and the chakra is dispersed. The kunai has indirectly neutralized the chakra by destroying the clone, causing it to be dispersed.

The cave's spikes have life because of NE infused in them. Amaterasu removed the life source, turning the caves back to normal. Therefore, Amaterasu removed NE. How else did Amaterasu remove NE?

 

[ComplexCity]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

You're being unreasonably difficult.

When a kunai hits a shadow clone, the clone is destroyed, and the chakra is dispersed. The kunai has indirectly neutralized the chakra by destroying the clone, causing it to be dispersed.

The cave's spikes have life because of NE infused in them. Amaterasu removed the life source, turning the caves back to normal. Therefore, Amaterasu removed NE. How else did Amaterasu remove NE?

That's for you to prove to me using manga scans. I didn't make the assertion. All we know that Kabuto (who indeed used the technique) stated that the cave reverted because of the heat. So it is your job to prove how Amateratsu internally destroyed NE using manga scans

 

[LightSo6p]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

It's only used as a diversion against Naruto now.

Amaterasu is useless agaisnt
Kaguya
Juubi
Juubi Jin Obito
Madara
Naruto

You from got bee

 

[shelke]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

I don't think there is anyone as stupid as Complex and KG on this site. Nope, haven't seen that person.

 

[Punk Hazard]

Re: Overlooked feats: Enton >>>> Natural Energy (Mangafacts & proof inside!)

That's for you to prove to me using manga scans. I didn't make the assertion. All we know that Kabuto (who indeed used the technique) stated that the cave reverted because of the heat. So it is your job to prove how Amateratsu internally destroyed NE using manga scans

The Databook defined the jutsu as placing Nature Energy into the atmosphere to control things without life by giving them life through NE.

Manga scans show Amaterasu reverting the spikes to a state of lifelessness, and since NE is what's giving it life, the only logical conclusion is that Ama neutralized the NE.