OP and you are doing nothing but limiting the use of NE. That way you can convince others that Enton is stronger.
My logic make sense. Your example about chakra transformation is a poor example because you are moving backwards. If we are talking about water and fire and they are both transformed back into chakra than the water and fire are gone. We can't talk about water or fire anymore because it no longer exist. I'm not doing that. I'm moving forward. When you take NE and combine it with SE (spiritual energy) and PE (physical energy) to create Sage chakra the NE is still there. When you use the sage charka to create a jutsu the NE is still there. There is no sage charka without NE. There is no senjutsu without NE. Yes, it's important and must be included.
I see what you're implying but to say I'm limiting the use of NE is a bit exaggerating don't you think. Enton can also be added to other jutsus with practice/experience, so I didn't see the point of adding all of that into the OP. I only wanted to prove my point about Enton being able to destroy NE at its source. If Enton can destroy the NE that backs up a sage jutsu, then the jutsu no longer has the significant power of a sage jutsu.
Cancel and revert are one and the same thing? Good Lord, man. Sit yourself down. It's just one preposterous excuse from you after another:
Manga:
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You can read, or what? How many times do I have to say that Amaterasu and Enton work differently? Unless Amaterasu isn't used on a tech to summon more flames, it doesn't burn quickly proven by the tech examples I gave you. Gave you the examples almost repeatedly, in fact, real manga examples unlike your tedious flip-flopping.
So where is that cancel thing in the manga or the databook? In short, you just made that up.
I like how you just made a fool of yourself. Yes "cancelled out" and "revert" as used in this context have the same meaning. The cave reverted because the technique was cancelled out. Does that make sense to you now?
You see no difference between the terms "revert" and "cancel"? Where does it say that the NE was cancelled? Yeah, no where. And I think I asked you a question; show me any page where NE has been cancelled by any tech. One page would do.
I didn't say the NE itself was cancelled, but rather the technique was, which is true because the cave reverted to it's original self.You should learn to read properly before making idiotic arguments next time.
I like how you just made a fool of yourself. Yes "cancelled out" and "revert" as used in this context have the same meaning. The cave reverted because the technique was cancelled out. Does that make sense to you now?
I didn't say the NE itself was cancelled, but rather the technique was, which is true because the cave reverted to it's original self.You should learn to read properly before making idiotic arguments next time.
Wow Sasukebase is full of idiots. Shelke and Dantee are surprisingly idiotic. The scan quite clearly states in no uncertain terms that the cave reverted because of the "heat" of amaterasu. There was no mention of amaterasu's made up ability to nullify natural energy. It's all baseless conjecture. I don't know y'all trolling or you're actually that stupid or perhaps you're so obsessed with Sasuke that you throw away or common sense and logical thought.
At one end you are so against the idea of nullifying, and now look at you? Prancing about the thread screaming the exact same thing. What's this lame flip-flopping, man? Now I wonder why. Also, comprehension must elude your feebly thick scull, because the technique wasn't cancelled. A canceled tech means the chakra or NE returns back to the user and only user has the power to do so. The term revert back doesn't mean the tech was canceled, but, overcome given how IT functions. It's NE that is in question here. Just save it already. You've gone well past the point of tediousness now.
Please, don't teach me how context works, you'll be laboring to prove it, and look at what you yourself stated in the thread:
At one end you are so against the idea of nullifying, and now look at you? Prancing about the thread screaming the exact same thing. What's this lame flip-flopping, man? Now I wonder why. Also, comprehension must elude your feebly thick scull, because the technique wasn't cancelled. A canceled tech means the chakra or NE returns back to the user and only user has the power to do so. The term revert back doesn't mean the tech was canceled, but, overcome given how IT functions. It's NE that is in question here. Just save it already. You've gone well past the point of tediousness now.
You should actually learn to read properly before you make a fool of yourself. There's a difference between "cancelled" and "cancelled out". I suggest you find a dictionary to learn the difference.
Anyways this is my closing argument which should end this nonsense argument. First of all it's a we can all agree that amaterasu destroys anything it comes into contact with, Emphasis on contact with. There has to be direct contact.
Now lets look at Kabuto's jutsu again shall we? Any NE Kabuto was using to control the cave was within the cave. The chakra goes through the cave. If you look at the page carefully, you'll notice amaterasu hadn't burnt through the rocks when the jutsu was cancelled out, so there is no way amaterasu would have made contact with NE yet.
So how was the jutsu cancelled out then. You and Dantee both neglect a very important feature of Kabuto's jutsu which is
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That jutsu is different from just controlling something with chakra, it works by giving life to something that isn't alive and controlling it. That's right Sauce fans, the cave was alive. It was a living thing. Now what happens when most living things are exposed to extreme temperatures? It ****ing dies that's what happens. That's why Kabuto said the heat made the cave go back to its orginal shape. Because the heat ****ing killed the cave. That was also the reason I mentioned kage bunshin in the beginning. It's similar to muki tensei in the sense that they can both be "killed".
You should actually learn to read properly before you make a fool of yourself. There's a difference between "cancelled" and "cancelled out". I suggest you find a dictionary to learn the difference.
Anyways this is my closing argument which should end this nonsense argument. First of all it's a we can all agree that amaterasu destroys anything it comes into contact with, Emphasis on contact with. There has to be direct contact.
Now lets look at Kabuto's jutsu again shall we? Any NE Kabuto was using to control the cave was within the cave. The chakra goes through the cave. If you look at the page carefully, you'll notice amaterasu hadn't burnt through the rocks when the jutsu was cancelled out, so there is no way amaterasu would have made contact with NE yet.
So how was the jutsu cancelled out then. You and Dantee both neglect a very important feature of Kabuto's jutsu which is
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That jutsu is different from just controlling something with chakra, it works by giving life to something that isn't alive and controlling it. That's right Sauce fans, the cave was alive. It was a living thing. Now what happens when most living things are exposed to extreme temperatures? It ****ing dies that's what happens. That's why Kabuto said the heat made the cave go back to its orginal shape. Because the heat ****ing killed the cave. That was also the reason I mentioned kage bunshin in the beginning. It's similar to muki tensei in the sense that they can both be "killed".
Semantics, wow, you are pulling this one out now and trying to impress with me that "Cancel and Cancel out" are two different things, when "out" is simply a lame addition to the word and wouldn't matter at all in this context? Very impressive, that "out"; it changes everything. Thank you for enhancing my vocabulary. I was clearly lost without this out addition.
An irrelevant paragraph. Hardly worth a second glance.
Finally, looks like it has saturated your head - the concept that the cave was alive and the life got extinguished? Isn't it what Dantee and Me have been saying for nearly 20 pages? Heat killing the cave by snuffing out the life, in this case, NE? Three claps for you, and look, Complex has even given one of his likes; he is such a romantic.
Semantics, wow, you are pulling this one out now and trying to impress with me that "Cancel and Cancel out" are two different things, when "out" is simply a lame addition to the word and wouldn't matter at all in this context? Very impressive, that "out"; it changes everything. Thank you for enhancing my vocabulary. I was clearly lost without this out addition.
An irrelevant paragraph. Hardly worth a second glance.
Finally, looks like it has saturated your head - the concept that the cave was alive and the life got extinguished? Isn't it what Dantee and Me have been saying for nearly 20 pages? Heat killing the cave by snuffing out the life, in this case, NE? Three claps for you, and look, Complex has even given one of his likes; he is such a romantic.
Nope not the same at all. Neither you or Dantee mentioned anything about the cave being alive. The heat killed cave is not the same argument amaterasu sapped NE from the cave. It didn't sap NE from the cave but rather the cave, like all living things died because it was exposed to extreme temperatures. In other words, a bijuu bomb, a furnace or anyother jutsu which is capable of those extreme temperatures would have done the same ****ing job
It does not make sense to compare Enton with Natural energy. Sasuke combined Amaterasu and chidori and Naruto use the remain chakra to created a rasengan in base mode. He was not using sage mode, because he was exhausted.
But it does not matter, because this is not comparable .
Getting owned in the other thread so you came here?
Waiting for you to show me where NE was sapped or mentioned to be sapped in the manga. Amateratsu can't sap chakara but can sap NE. Makes a lot of sense
Bold is false. Air is invisible not intangible. you feel air when you feel wind, your lungs grab air in order to breathe
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Getting owned in the other thread so you came here?
Waiting for you to show me where NE was sapped or mentioned to be sapped in the manga. Amateratsu can't sap chakara but can sap NE. Makes a lot of sense
When kabuto mentioned the cave reverted. When the Juubi skin started melting. DB saying the atmosphere filled with NE gives Kabuto control over the cave.
When kabuto mentioned the cave reverted. When the Juubi skin started melting. DB saying the atmosphere filled with NE gives Kabuto control over the cave.
I asked you to circle the manga dialouge stating that NE was sapped. I don't care for what you fanfictionally think it said. You did it when you used a mistranslated page in Gaiden, but hesitant now when I ask. Maybe cause this whole thread is fanfic? Not only that, you also have to prove the NE in the atmosphere was destroyed as well
I asked to circle the manga dialouge stating that NE was sapped. I don't care for what you fanfictionally think it said. You did it when you used a mistranslated page in Gaiden, but hesitant now when I ask. Maybe cause this whole thread is fanfic?
Ok so circle the dialogue where NE was stated to be sapped and circle it cause I don't see it. Since NE also was in the atmosphere and you claim Amaterasu can sap NE, you also have to prove that it sapped from the atmosphere as well
