Transgender Woman Sent Back To Male Prison Despite Appeal

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Check the edit, and yes, someone here clarified that the surgery was complete. Thought she still has remnants, whatever that means, she can't actually get anyone pregnant. Hence, it's irrelevant to the case, which is why I forgot about it.
Hmm you seem to be right. To bad the law wasn't on his side tho =/
 

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Going to any jail is the punishment. Going to a female prison is still going to prison, so the punishment wouldn't be revoked.
In that case why can't regular men be able to choose to be put in female prisons? What would be the point of separating male and female prisons?
 

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nah it's too late now, ain't no "can I switch to a female prison"
they're going to **** the mf shit out of that nigha in jail
 
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In that case why can't regular men be able to choose to be put in female prisons? What would be the point of separating male and female prisons?
Because they're still men and haven't made a transition to being and identifying as women?

The point being to prevent in-jail pregnancies?

Neither of those apply to this situation.
 

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I thought gender was a social construct though. Biologically she is a man
That's nice? This has little to affect my post. She's a transsexual male-to-female. Like I told Inanimated, I don't really care whether or not you agree with the notion she should be treated as a female, that is simply how I view the situation.
 

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Because they're still men and haven't made a transition to being and identifying as women?

The point being to prevent in-jail pregnancies?

Neither of those apply to this situation.
You didn't answer the question. If male prison is as bad as female prison according to you then what is the purpose of separating them aside from them reproducing? This particular transgender might aswell have a penis, how do you know they wouldn't cause in-jail pregnancies?
 

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You didn't answer the question. If male prison is as bad as female prison according to you then what is the purpose of separating them aside from them reproducing? This particular transgender might aswell have a penis, how do you know they wouldn't cause in-jail pregnancies?
What do you mean aside from reproducing? That IS the reason why. This is like asking "Why is stealing wrong aside from the fact that it's taking something that's not yours?" You're loading the question, and making it a very stupid one at that.

I know they won't because their surgery is complete and they no longer have a penis, and therefore the physical capability, to impregnate someone.

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What do you mean aside from reproducing? That IS the reason why. This is like asking "Why is stealing wrong aside from the fact that it's taking something that's not yours?" You're loading the question, and making it a very stupid one at that.

I know they won't because their surgery is complete and they no longer have a penis, and therefore the physical capability, to impregnate someone.

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Well don't say female prison is just as bad as male prison. That's what you were arguing before.
 

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Well don't say female prison is just as bad as male prison. That's what you were arguing before.
Yeah, this is why reading is fundamental. The reason I was arguing that(that wasn't even my argument) is because people were saying the women in a female prison would be in danger if she were sent there. That's a faulty argument because those women are already in danger due to the presence of women who were murderers, rapists, gang members, committers of assault and battery, etc. Her presence wouldn't turn prison into some paradise into a dangerous place, it's already a dangerous place.

I also never said male prison is just as bad as female prison, I said the transsexual would be placed in a prison regardless of the *** of the inmates as a response to people saying she's running from punishment. Whether she's put in male prison or female prison, she's still gonna be in prison, so placing her in the latter doesn't take away from her punishment nor is it special treatment because it's still prison.
 

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Yeah, this is why reading is fundamental. The reason I was arguing that(that wasn't even my argument) is because people were saying the women in a female prison would be in danger if she were sent there. That's a faulty argument because those women are already in danger due to the presence of women who were murderers, rapists, gang members, committers of assault and battery, etc. Her presence wouldn't turn prison into some paradise into a dangerous place, it's already a dangerous place.

I also never said male prison is just as bad as female prison, I said the transsexual would be placed in a prison regardless of the *** of the inmates as a response to people saying she's running from punishment. Whether she's put in male prison or female prison, she's still gonna be in prison, so placing her in the latter doesn't take away from her punishment nor is it special treatment because it's still prison.
To you it's not special treatment to change from male to female prison because they're just as dangerous. I argued it is more dangerous than female prisons and no criminal should be listened to regarding something like that. My point of view was if they didn't want to be there then they shouldn't have commited assault.
 

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To you it's not special treatment to change from male to female prison because they're just as dangerous. I argued it is more dangerous than female prisons and no criminal should be listened to regarding something like that. My point of view was if they didn't want to be there then they shouldn't have commited assault.
Holy shit, she is still going to prison. Female prison isn't any less prison than male prison. It's not special treatment because it's still prison.
 

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Holy shit, she is still going to prison. Female prison isn't any less prison than male prison. It's not special treatment because it's still prison.
And I'm saying if that applies to this person than it should apply for everyone, because prison is prison right?
 

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I see it as wrong because I think his transition from male-to-female should be held valid.
Like I said, it doesn't matter what you see or how you feel. The fact is opinions are invalid when in the realm of science. Biologically he is a male so once again I ask, what reason should he not go to the male prison?
 
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