And? I'm expressing my opinion on the subject. My reasoning is he underwent a male-to-female transition, and that should be deemed valid. I don't care if you find my opinion or my reasoning on the matter invalid, that is my reason. You asked me what it was, and I've told you. Either take it as that's my reason, or that's where the conversation ends.
You have to bring reasoning to the table my boy. I've already dismissed how you feel using facts. I don't care whether or not for your opinion tbh. I'm just stating the laws of Science which are deeemed factual and have no inclusion of predilection. All I'm seeing from you is how I feel this shouldn't have happened when you're making zero sense. So once again based off of science he is a man, so why shouldn't a man be in a male prison?
That IS my reasoning. I don't see why you can't understand that. You dismiss that as invalid, then so be it. But asking me the question over and over again won't change my answer. I don't care that you see it as invalid, so my answer won't change. You've said what you had to say about my answer, so there's no need to keep asking the same question.
What does the bold have to do with what is fact? Don't answer that. You're entitled to your opinion
You're saying we should limit the handling of this situation on the fact that she is biologically male. I'm saying human beings are smart enough to not have to, and instead handle it based on things like empathy, sympathy, judging the situation socially rather than just using cold hard facts like computers or machines.
Aren't males biologically stronger than females? Do males automatically become shaped like females during the transition? Because we should show empathy and sympathy toward him for the criminal activity he did right? While we're at it, let's show empathy and sympathy to that Texas pedo that raped that 2 yr old girl since you know, they can't really help it
Don't see what that has to do with the subject at hand. You're right in regards to us not being able to breathe underwater. But having scuba gear doesn't take away from the fact that we cannot BIOLOGICALLY breathe underwater.
So adoptive parents is the same thing as someone thinking they're the opposite gender even though science says otherwise? Bruh...
This once again brings up the insinuation that her presence in a women's prison presents some danger they weren't already exposed to. Yeah, she's naturally stronger than other women. But there are women in the prison who are already naturally stronger, or weaker, than any other given woman also in the prison. One could make this argument to cis women and say that jails should only contain women with the same natural strength.
I said things LIKE empathy, sympathy, and what's socially correct. I never said using sympathy and empathy for this scenario. The point of that section was to say that humans don't have to base everything on just the fact that it's biological, and those are SOME of the things that they can be based off.
The point of it is so show that human beings aren't just limited by biology. With regards to breathing underwater, we went "Well, here's something we can't do because of our biology." Instead of adhering to biology, human beings invented ways to bypass that biological limitation. Can we breathe underwater? No. Did we lay down and accept that just because it's biology? No. That shows that biology does not have to be the end-all-be-all of the conversation.
In a sense, yes. Both are examples of someone playing the role of something they are not biologically. The difference between the two is that one is a physical alteration of one's body, but both have one core similarity: It is someone being treated as something despite biologically not being that thing. Even though an adoptive parent is not the biological parent of a child, they still get the same legal treatment as though they were biologically that child's parent. This same principle can be applied to a transsexual: Even though she's not biologically female, she can be given the same legal treatment as though she were.
He biologically has the physique of a man, so I don't even know what you're trying to argue. Even though there are women stronger than other women biologically. Let Kimbo Slice get a *** change and put him into the cage with your average woman and see how fast people get mad
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It already said in the article that he is viewed as a he and biology supports that statement. Regardless about how you or him feel, the fact is that he is a male. Empathy and sympathy are a byproduct of subjective thinking. He was sent to the male prision based on the fact that he is biologically a male
I think I am a woman even though factually and biologically I am a man, therefore I should be treated like a woman because that's how I think and feel
The whole point of separating out places based on gender is so that people may feel comfortable in it.
You are saying that because she has the biological physique of a man, he poses a threat to these women because he's biologically stronger than most if not all of them. This argument falls through for two reasons
You really need to read it better.
You're not even reading my posts at this point. I fully understand she is biologically a male, and I fully understand that's why she was sent to a male prison. I disagree with the notion that her being biologically a male is the final say in this conversation because human beings have reached a point where that hasn't stopped us before. We've reached a point where we ignored the scientific/biological limitation, and found ways around it simply because we wanted to, and that can be applied here.
*Sigh* Oh my god...
So *** changes eliminate the amount of chromosomes that makeup your ***? Oh lawd
Eh. After my last encounter with Inanimated, I can't say I'm surprised to see someone to stupid to tell what an analogy is.
Because as we all know, comfort is the number one standard for prison. That's why we let them have top-floor apartments as rooms, hot 5-star, nutritious meals whenever they want, and private showers. Oh wait, it's prison. I know men who wouldn't feel comfortable showering with other men, especially violent strangers. I take it I have your support in case one of these guys ends up in jail and requests a clean, private bathroom during his entire stay because you can't force discomfort on him, right?
When you're incapable of arguing properly but still wanna feel like you're an actual part of the conversation
That's different though, you can't force a female in male prison, here a male(at least to the female inmates) is sent among them, that sort of discomfort isn't forced; that's why people have to deal with sharing bathrooms etc with same *** violent criminals but not opposite ones. So you can't compare this idea of comfort to simply low quality food and living standard in general.
This makes no sense. I honestly doubt the people eating slop, showering and shitting in front of each other, and surrounded by potential danger is gonna become unbearable comfortable because of this. Like, "Yeah, it's prison, before it was alright but this is gonna be what breaks me."
So you get that this isn't a part of the punishment, right? I can agree that it's a small factor comparatively, but if you throw scale out the window, this is wrong (albeit on a small level), that's sort of in the Politically correct category but practically I can agree it's not big of a deal and she should be sent to female prison.
