Exactly. You twisted it to fit your own argument. Orochimaru stated EMS Sasuke will surpass EMS Madara. Gaiden Sasuke is 30, so he's clearly in his prime at this point. Assume he's still slightly away from his prime, that puts him as
equals to EMS Madara since prime EMS Sasuke
surpasses Madara. Now add in the Rinnegan and Sasuke surpasses Madara without being completely prime.
Your chakra matures as you grow, your physical energy develops as does your spiritual energy. These are the components for chakra, so age is extremely relevant. Not to mention he 'will surpass Madara' clearly implies age is a huge factor.
It is logical to assume he won't prime at old age as digression occurs then. 25 might be too young, so 30 seems pretty close to the perfect age. ASSUME it's still not prime, that doesn't matter because Oro said Sasuke will surpass Madara, not equate his power. And that's not knowing Sasuke will ever attain the Tomoe'd Rinnegan either. Rinnegan would put him above Madara regardless.
Then don't try to compare Madara and Hashirama's fight to VOTE 2. Because you said:
It being a more lengthy battle is irrelevant, so I don't see where you are going with this.
Didn't say it does, I'm saying he won't be affected by stamina because it'll never come down to it since both have large reserves. Madara's being larger doesn't mean this fight will ever last for 2 days. Sasuke's preta path also ends up being a huge factor if you want this to be a fight of attrition.
The absence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. Only because Sasuke hasn't shown long battles doesn't mean he can't partake in any.
I'm going to use your annoying way of debating to break down your arguments;
@yellow who said it needs to be destroyed? Sasuke's Ameno can teleport Madara outside. Preta continuously breaks down his Susano while giving Sasuke more chakra. A concentrated Chou Shinra Tensei (not used radially) can put the PS on its back. That's the point in which Sasuke's PS can either pin down Madara's PS (Ameno then proceeds to teleport Madara outside of his Susano) or Sasuke can use his Rinnegan Genjutsu on Madara while he's closer to him; which will go un-countered.
@red Potential death when it's being used by a Kage Bunshin? I think naught. The Bunshin just needs to release himself and all the chakra goes back to Sasuke. Moreover, if the PS kicks the clone the clone just needs to absorb to negate the entire impact as shown here [
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drained. Nagato absorbed it within a second or two. Given Hachibi+Bee's combined chakra contains far more chakra then Madara possesses, I don't see why Madara will be able to last long after a few clones are used to absorb the chakra.
@turquoise blue, There's no reason for me to believe Gaiden Sasuke couldn't copy a B-rank jutsu. You participated in my thread, you should logically have read the part which had Kakashi state he can copy any ninjutsu with an A-rank or below. Not to mention, how he attained the jutsu is irrelevant. Him having it is all that matters. Clear case of argumentum ad ignorantiam. Unless you have any implications or proof as to why Sasuke would be dreaming of using Kage Bunshin's, or why he is teaching Boruto Chidori in Genjutsu
with Kage Bunshins', there's nothing to debate here.
@Nigeria, Doesn't have to be used from the get-go. As long as it's eventually used Sasuke will have the ability to put it under his control and absorb its chakra through Preta. Once that occurs Madara stands no chance of 1. Competing with his Susano. 2. A battle of attrition.
Based on what? When you release your summon all that occurs is it going to another location. Its chakra is not affected. And even if it is, based on that Madara also would need to put the Kyuubi under his Genjutsu every time he summons it. There won't be any competetion however, because Sasuke's Rinne Genjutsu will overpower it terribly.
@bold when was this? Link me the scan.
@orange When did I ever claim he's absorbing the entirety of its chakra? All he needs to do is absorb enough chakra to replicate the Kyuubi cloak Naruto handed to him. But that's low balling since he can absorb an entire v2 cloak from Bee. So he absorbs that and imbues his PS with it, effectively putting him at a level far above Madara's PS. Not to mention the fallacious belief of Kurama continuously absorbing chakra, despite him having gone close to depleted of chakra at two points in the War Arc.. Time consuming? Although Nagato absorbed a full v2 cloak from Bee night
instantly? Absorption will happen regardless, as Sasuke Ameno's the Kyuubi to him and absorbs its chakra. It will be some time before Madara even realises what's going on, let alone him releasing the Kyuubi.
He can utilise jutsu from within the Susano obviously. Placing his hands on the floor is an impossibility. If the PS puts its hands on the floor then Sasuke literally throws it against its back/ is at the height to Amento Madara to him/Genjutsu's Madara/sticks to the preta strategy.
