On a serious note. . . . Why are DBZ fans so butt hurt

Liquid Snake

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It's not even close to defeat umineko's character lol.

Goku;

Powers and Abilities: Super Strength, Super Speed, Enhanced Durability, Enhanced Agility, Enhanced Endurance, highly skilled in martial arts, After-image creation, Flight, Ki Manipulation for defensive (can use his ki to enhance his natural durability and harden his skin to the extent he's able to block sword attacks from a fellow Super Saiya-jin with only his finger) and offensive (can shoot ki blasts capable of crossing thousands of kilometers and blowing up entire planets) purposes, can create flashes of light to blind his opponents, basic but high range telepathy (has not used this offensively however) and limited Telekinesis, Ki Sensing, capable of transformation to increase his power even further (can either use his Kaioken technique to get up to a 20x boost linearly in all of his stats or use his Super Saiya-jin transformations up to 3 for an even greater boost in all stats), Ki absorption ability as a Super Saiya-jin God (also can't be sensed by beings lesser than a "God"), the ability to instantly transport himself anywhere with his Shunkan Ido (Instant Transmission) technique, a physiology that substantially increases power after recovering from near fatal injuries, resistance towards electricity.


Lambdadelta;

Power and Abilities: Reality Warping, Magic, cosmic awareness, immortality, space-time manipulation, gravity manipulation, mystery manipulation, candy manipulation, conceptual being, turn words into reality by using Red Truth and Blue Truth, kakera (fragments, universes with higher dimensions) manipulation, summoning, regeneration and resurrection, hyperverse crossing, exists higher than characters that are able to view a whole higher dimensional universes as nothing more than single glass fragments(worlds).

CONCEPT CREATION -

Lambdadelta, in the Sea of Fragments, can create concepts for herself by merely thinking.

PROBABILITY MANIPULATION -

Lambdadelta, as the Witch of Certainty, possesses the polar opposite to Bernkastel's power of Miracles. She can make anything happen with nigh-absolute certainty. Bernkastel acknowledges this and calls her power terrifying.
As a measure of how powerful Bernkastel is, she can one-shot End-of-Series Battler Ushiromiya, who can completely no-sell multiple big-bang, planet-creation, and big-crunch events on a scale of the City of Books.

TIME MANIPULATION -

She can stop time easily, and this is also from her nature as a higher-dimensional being.

AUTHORIAL POWER -

Lambdadelta bestows the Magic of Certainty onto Jessica Ushiromiya's script. This script effectively creates a new universe (the world of the script) through Lambda's magic, and imprisons Jessica, Shannon, and Battler within. Lambda's magic ensures that the script has absolute authority over the world, and that it cannot be denied until the story plays out.

CONTROL OVER FATE AND DESTINY -

To beings on Lambdadelta's level, Fate and Destiny are but playthings.

POPCORN SHIELDS -

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This is significant because Dlanor's blades are conceptual weapons, able to deny the existence of even concepts, or things on that level. The Red Key especially is the most powerful of all, it renders the concepts of defense, dodge, and time to react all invalid.

What makes this even more impressive is when you consider how fast Dlanor is. She fights on an even speed front with Battler, where the concept of distance quickly becomes meaningless.

IMMORTALITY -

Even after being dismembered by Featherine, who rewrote the plot of the story to kill her, Lambdadelta survives through her seperate body parts, of which she is capable of controlling independently. Bernkastel helps sew her back together.

"BLACK HOLE" CREATION -

One of Lambda's most well known moves. She creates a sphere of super-concentrated Gravity. These spheres are so powerful they consume Bernkastel's Leviathans (that are massive even on the scale of fragments in the City of Books) and draw in multiple fragments in the City of Books. She eventually draws Bernkastel herself in and transforms the "Black Hole" into a sweet and consumes it all (except Bernkastel, of course).
The manga reflects this.

BIG BANGS -

In the City of Books, where books are Fragments, Lambdadelta squares off with Bernkastel. Their fight results in numerous Big Bang and Big Crunch-level events, with the gestation of multiple resulting universes and countless galaxies. The fight was likened to two gods trying to prove who could create Universes better.



LAMBADELTA'S SWEETS -

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They can ignite universes on the scale of the City of Books. She ignites a small universe in Bernkastel's stomach with a chipped cookie.

ENERGY PROJECTION -

Can fire massive blasts that destroy Bernkastel's leviathans, which are massive even within the City of Books, effectively dwarfing Book-fragments.

CELESTIAL BODY CREATION -

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Lambda, in her most glorious moment, stands against Featherine Augustus Aurora, The Great Witch of Drama, Theatregoing and Spectating and the most powerful being in Umineko. With a gesture, she instantly creates entire stars and planets to orbit her, each effectively the size of several Book-fragments, and prepares to hurl them at Featherine.

EMPOWERMENT / ELEVATION -

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Lambdadelta is capable of presenting humans with wishes, enough to end universes and birth them. Even to elevate them to the level where their endeavors will certainly become reality (essentially, godhood)- however, she is cruel in that she never said or dictated how long they would take.

REMOVAL OF POWER -

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Lambdadelta chastises Beatrice for the shoddy scenarios she has played up until now. She reminds Beatrice that only by her favor does she maintain her position as game master / territory lord of her multiversal catbox of endless parallel worlds, affording her nigh-absolute control over it. Essentially, Lambda tells Beatrice to get her act together, or she will demote her back to being nothing more than the mere human she was before Lambda deigned to elevate her to the lofty status she holds, and imprison her in the most lowly of fragments, to which Beatrice acknowledges in fear.
By the time she does that long as atk goku neg diffs her with kamehameha
 

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He has to receive the power again

Stop talking to him. All these type of conversations about DBZ are meaningless. At the end of the day, they ain't got shit on Goku!
 

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Used to love DBZ but the new stuff I can't stand.
 

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Well that's how its described in the light novel :lol. Well yeah she is still alive, but she sacrificed her power, so she's not even close to the level she was at before. At her prime, she by far was the strongest though.

My point is DB maybe a strong, but there are plenty of series and characters out there that are above them in strength.

goku hasn't reached his prime yet his potential is limitless and if he loses he gets stronger plus like I said he can easily wish for immortality with Dragon balls
 

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Fanboy confirmed, out discussion has ended.

I even think Aizen neg diffs her with his ability since she doesn't have strength just an ability she can't over come his senses control so no way she beats goku
 

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goku hasn't reached his prime yet his potential is limitless and if he loses he gets stronger plus like I said he can easily wish for immortality with Dragon balls

Those are what ifs though, only thing we know is how strong he is now.
 

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Those are what ifs though, only thing we know is how strong he is now.

But if we go by how strong they are now the character u speak of is fodder didn't u say she relinquished her powers so she's a shell of her former self that makes it even more probable that goku beats her
 

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But if we go by how strong they are now the character u speak of is fodder didn't u say she relinquished her powers so she's a shell of her former self that makes it even more probable that goku beats her

I was obviously talking about her prime :rolleyes: and it has actually happened unlike with Goku
 

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No it's not permanent he just has it to fight the new opponents he will probably learn a new form after training against gods so his base form will get stronger like how bills trained him and then his ssj form was able to keep up with bills
 

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I, for one, love DBZ and don't give a shit whether or not another verse is better. I mean if we were to compare all, Spongebob would win since he doesn't die.

Why do we always have to pick one? That's stupid.
 

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Because how can someone so basic as superman beat goku his fighting style is pathetic and naruto was copied from dbz so how is naruto better also the fighting is better in dbz and the villains are better as well also there's no free power ups in dbz

Rage somehow makes a character strong enough to overpower an enemy that was leagues above them...
 

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i be too busy enjoying the memories of the dream matches DBZ gave with little b.s. attached to them to care about how good/bad the plot is. Imo, that's an area where Naruto fell short: the plot was made to be more important than everything else to the point where all kinds of unexplained(and by 'unexplained', i mean an explanation where there was enough details to deem it as a fairly plausible explanation) b.s. got cooked up in fights in an effort to ensure that the the relevant character(s) in an arc would advance the story as far as the staff wanted them to advance it.
DBZ is the most overrated anime of all time.
and yet that "overrated" anime made it possible for you to worship Sasuke. Many manga series and forum sites wouldn't have even existed if it wasn't for it. You might as well be saying your parents are overrated for having you.
 
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i be too busy enjoying the memories of the dream matches DBZ gave with little b.s. attached to them to care about how good/bad the plot is. Imo, that's an area where Naruto fell short: the plot was made to be more important than everything else to the point where all kinds of unexplained(and by 'unexplained', i mean an explanation where there was enough details to deem it as a fairly plausible explanation) b.s. got cooked up in fights in an effort to ensure that the the relevant character(s) in an arc would advance the story as far as the staff wanted them to advance it.and yet that "overrated" anime made it possible for you to worship Sasuke. Many manga series and forum sites wouldn't have even existed if it wasn't for it. You might as well be saying your parents are overrated for having you.

DBZ is in my top ten but it is still overrated.
 

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