Sasuke seems like he should be stronger than Naruto in Gaiden (NOT A SASUKE FAP)

[Narutrol]

I dont Understand

Naruto gets Full kurama his baseform got much stronger

Sasuke lose 8,5 beasts and and Arm and should be now stronger then Naruto ?

At vote2, sasuke refilled his chakra with bijuus while naruto refilled with natural energy

 

[NukaCola]

You have to look at this from the eyes of a Sasuke fan. Sasuke was nerfed.

To understand the Sasuke fanboys you need to read the manga with your eyes closed.

 

[Hiraishin Stage 3]

And what exactly is this super duper rinnegan power that Naruto can't handle? Everyone screams rinnegan yet has failed to specify what exactly is it.

Deva path? got shat on by six tails. Full bijuu mode with senjutsu is even stronger.
Preta path? is useless against senjutsu.
Asura path? those tiny rockets or lasers, lol

Without the nine bijuu chakra the susanoo would be even weaker while Naruto can make clones of BM.

Sage Art Rasenshurikens blows the fuk out of susanoo. The end.

 

[Henry1350cent]

i can agree with this good thread

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

I respect your thinking but I disagree with you.

Naruto received RSM at the same time as sasuke received the rinnegan.so if sasuke hadn't master his rinnegan in that short time then how can you assume that naruto have gained mastery over his RSM?

Actually naruto has more room to grow.he have all bijuus chakra in him which gives him all kkgs all elements and vast amount of chakra.naruto could make chakra rods which he used against BZ and madara's limbo clone.

Naruto can learn TSB manipulation with mastery over Nonuboku sword (world's most OP thing).naruto would have learned four sun barrier seal which juubito made.

Whereas sasuke can only learn all paths and all elements.

If naruto with half kyuubi can defeat sasuke with all bijuus then how can sasuke without bijuus become more powerful than naruto with full kyuubi ?

 

[Merkel]

Nagato has show more techniques with the Rinnegan than anybody.

True but you would argue that he has more rinnegan mastery than Hagoromo? IK there is no proof of others with more mastery but really?

 

[NukaCola]

True but you would argue that he has more rinnegan mastery than Hagoromo? IK there is no proof of others with more mastery but really?

Why not? Neji has show more mastery of the Byakugan than Kaguya.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

I hope Sasuke just attacks Naruto with Mastered Rinnegan and get's stomped on so everyone can move on because these assumptions about impure rinnegan vs original are so stupid people seem to think the power gap means anything against Naruto. Unless the Rinnegan has other abilities not shown during Naruto then all Sasuke has is abilities Naruto has already seen and will counter easy.

 

[JustSomeRandomNinja]

Why is it so hard to admit Naruto and Sasuke are equal? Neither have any real advantage in power over the other

Freakin Kishi himself stated this

 

[Merkel]

I respect your thinking but I disagree with you.

Naruto received RSM at the same time as sasuke received the rinnegan.so that means if sasuke hadn't master his rinnegan in that short time then how can you assume that naruto had mastered his RSM?

Actually naruto has more room to grow.he have all bijuus chakra in him which gives him all kkgs all elements and vast amount of chakra.

Naruto can learn TSB manipulation with mastery over Nonuboku sword (world's most OP thing).

Whereas sasuke can only learn all paths and all elements.

If naruto with half kyuubi can defeat sasuke with all bijuus then how can sasuke without bijuus become more powerful than naruto with full kyuubi ?

I assume Naruto has nearly mastered TSB manipulation because of what he has shown and simply because there seems to be less to it (less complicated) in comparison to diversity of the rinnegan and its accompanying techniques. Naruto was able to use the TSB shape transformation to create different things and shapes but I never meant that Naruto had completely mastered it, I just meant there was less things for him to learn in regard to his Rikudou enhancements. Juubito used the Nonuboku sword after only recently entering Juubi jin state so that argument is invalid.

-Naruto has only a small portion of chakra from each bijuu not their full power

-Naruto has only three KKG chakra natures from the bijuu not all of them, I agree he has vast chakra compared to Sasuke but his vast chakra isn't sourced from the other 8 bijuu

-You are right I forgot about Naruto still only having 1/2 of Kurama, that may level it out considering Naruto will have quite a distinct advantage in sheer amounts of chakra but that alone doesn't convince me. Especially if Sasuke can learn to both drain chakra and use ninjutsu at the same time.

 

[Merkel]

I hope Sasuke just attacks Naruto with Mastered Rinnegan and get's stomped on so everyone can move on because these assumptions about impure rinnegan vs original are so stupid people seem to think the power gap means anything against Naruto. Unless the Rinnegan has other abilities not shown during Naruto then all Sasuke has is abilities Naruto has already seen and will counter easy.

You truly believe Sasuke will have no further mastery of his rinnegan and believe that Naruto and Sasuke's techniques will not change at all in like 15 years give or take?

 

[Gagster]

You truly believe Sasuke will have no further mastery of his rinnegan and believe that Naruto and Sasuke's techniques will not change at all in like 15 years give or take?

Of course Sasuke's techniques changed, he lost an arm. Other than that though I doubt it.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

You truly believe Sasuke will have no further mastery of his rinnegan and believe that Naruto and Sasuke's techniques will not change at all in like 15 years give or take?

It's strange to me people seem to think he'll master the Rinnegan when in the manga it was stated he could only learn the Rinnegan techniques he witnessed Madara used in the War so unless he had a Rinnegan Master who knew all it's secret ( Madara's Dead ) I'm not sure how he learns techniques he's never seen before unless Naruto trained him since he's seen the majority of them except the one that pulls souls from people.

 

[Merkel]

Why not? Neji has show more mastery of the Byakugan than Kaguya.

What? Neji is a pure Hyuga... Nagato's rinnegan was implanted. Not the same at all. But you pose a good point that godmode may not equal dojutsu prowess. However most of Neji's abilities are in his chakra point taijutsu which is not something Kaguya needs or uses for obvious reasons. Do you believe his sensory abilities in his Byakugan would be stronger aswell? I can't prove Kaguya's would be stronger of course but food for thought.

 

[Narutrol]

It's strange to me people seem to think he'll master the Rinnegan when in the manga it was stated he could only learn the Rinnegan techniques he witnessed Madara used in the War so unless he had a Rinnegan Master who knew all it's secret ( Madara's Dead ) I'm not sure how he learns techniques he's never seen before unless Naruto trained him since

he's seen the majority of them except the one that pulls souls from people.

Nagato learnt all and nobody said he's a genius

 

[UzumakiRyu]

You truly believe Sasuke will have no further mastery of his rinnegan and believe that Naruto and Sasuke's techniques will not change at all in like 15 years give or take?

I actually believe that unless someone taught him how to use the other path's Sasuke can't train for something he's never used or seen used in battle. Nagato learned the techniques I thought himself through natural experiences in battle but turns out Madara told him all the secrets of the Rinnegan so unless those secret's are somehow given to Sasuke he won't master it.

Nagato learnt all and nobody said he's a genius

Madara told him all the secrets of the Rinnegan.

 

[Merkel]

It's strange to me people seem to think he'll master the Rinnegan when in the manga it was stated he could only learn the Rinnegan techniques he witnessed Madara used in the War so unless he had a Rinnegan Master who knew all it's secret ( Madara's Dead ) I'm not sure how he learns techniques he's never seen before unless Naruto trained him since he's seen the majority of them except the one that pulls souls from people.

So how the hell do you think Nagato learnt any of the paths? You are kidding right? If you conclude that Sasuke won't use any more rinnegan techniques that he did not copy from Madara and use in the first day of having the power then you also must conclude that Naruto will not gain further mastery of the rikudou enhancements that he received.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

So how the hell do you think Nagato learnt any of the paths? You are kidding right? If you conclude that Sasuke won't use any more rinnegan techniques that he did not copy from Madara and use in the first day of having the power then you also must conclude that Naruto will not gain further mastery of the rikudou enhancements that he received.

Read post above this and you'll get the answer, Nagato was told the secret's of the Rinnegan.

 

[NukaCola]

Nagato learnt all and nobody said he's a genius

They only call him god.

 

[Rohan]

Madara told him all the secrets of the Rinnegan.

Please, Madara never ever met Nagato directly.

The only who is left is Obito and it was never shown that Obito trained Nagato.

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Nagato was able to summon Gedo Mazou and use the Outer Path Dragons without Knowledge and any Rinnegan training.