Shino vs Gaara, Bug vs Sand.....i say shino will win

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i guess you guys finally accepted the fact that shino is a better ninja......who is gaara(not a great ninja anymore without his tailed beast)
 

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No, we do not Shino is not on the same power level that Gaara is with or without the One tail Beast. Their Power Levels are no ware close to each other for a decent even fight.
 

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heard what u said " gaara used his bijuu to perform his attacks" which means gaara is noo longer a great shinobi without his tailed beast. if the first attack of gaara doesnt work once on shino or if it does, shino can adapt to any jutsu and it will never work again. in my opinion shimo is seen as an ideal kiilling machine. hes smart,deadly, attitude(acting cool) and he is always humble(soo does gaara but shino's humbleness it better).
what i meant was that there was no hint for gaara needing the bijuu for his attacks.
shino wont win against the gaara who fought deideira, sry. sand crushes bugs, and shino cant breed immunity during a fight, it takes time, if this ability really exists in the original, which isnt sure because it's mainly a filler-skill.
 

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what i meant was that there was no hint for gaara needing the bijuu for his attacks.
shino wont win against the gaara who fought deideira, sry. sand crushes bugs, and shino cant breed immunity during a fight, it takes time, if this ability really exists in the original, which isnt sure because it's mainly a filler-skill.
and to take into opinion shino is ninja that has never lost a match so far that we've seen. gaara's sand also/im sure moves slower than shino's bugs. keep in mind that shino's bugs can maneuver better than gaara's sand. there are also smaller which makes them almost invisible to the eye.
 

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Sino has never fought anybody of Gaara level. Only 2 people have ever defeated Gaara Deideira was one, the other was Naruto, Now are you saying that Sino is in Naruto league?
 

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Sino has never fought anybody of Gaara level. Only 2 people have ever defeated Gaara Deideira was one, the other was Naruto, Now are you saying that Sino is in Naruto league?
kimimaru (the bone guy that works for orochimaru) was going to defeat gaara but because of his sickness gaara was allowed to fight another day. and shino defeated guren(crystal user, who defeated kakashi) which im sure would kick gaara's ass.
 

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Shino in the end did not repeat defeat Guren, He defeated the water slime Guy not Guren. Guren left with the kid and the Big Guy in peace. And Kimiraru was still defeated by Gaara.
 

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Shino in the end did not repeat defeat Guren, He defeated the water slime Guy not Guren. Guren left with the kid and the Big Guy in peace. And Kimiraru was still defeated by Gaara.
dont let your ignorance blind you from the truth. watch the episode when shino was fighting guren..when guren realized that all her jutsus were useless against shino she ran away...why did she ran way because she knew that if she had continue she would have lost her life. gaara would have definitely died if it wasn't for kimimaru's sickness the bone was directly 3 inches away from gaara's face when kimimaru died of his sickness. i would strongly advise you to watch those episode before you cast your foolish judgement.
 

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Regarding Gaara intelligence, I think it's fair enough that Gaara has the strategic skills. If you remember during the his fight with Deidara, he managed to crush his arms. Deidara used a dirty tactic to compromise Sunagakure, which clearly affects Gaara's battle strategies. Even one good shinobi may compromise his safety for the village's destruction. Still, it's hard to think and weigh thoughts amidst the battle. Even so, he managed to use a lot of chakra just to create a defensive shield for the village. Deidara took advantage of this, and succeeded in outsmarting Gaara in the end. If only Gaara didn't use a lot of chakra and ditched the village's safety, he would have succeeded defeating Deidara. But, Gaara is a true noble ninja who will take the village's safety first before his own.

I guess, if Shino was in Gaara's shoes, it would surely compromise his battle strategy as well.

In addition, Gaara may not have that much chakra and stamina as before he was still a jinchuriki, but it does not mean that he have inferior chakra levels at all. It was witnessed during the Kage Summit that his vast ninjutsu skills did not diminish.

There's also a hole on the bugs turning the sand attacks into mud or muddy like substance. I think it'll just remain them as is (sand). I doubt if they'll turn into mud since Shino does not have a nature type, particularly that of water.

The question pretty much lies on The capacity of Shino's bugs. Are they strong enough to withstand sand attacks just before they siphon the energy (chakra) out of the attack? Can they easily penetrate Gaara's strong defensive sand techs? Bugs are living things that are pretty much vulnerable to life and death--and death will make them useless, whereas sand is a lifeless thing that can be reused and molded again and again.

If, and only if the bugs can withstand Gaara's sand techs then Shino has the upper-hand on this fight. But, if you take a look at it at the moment, Gaara has an advantage when it comes to resource (sand and bugs) since his has less vulnerability than Shino's bugs.

I can't tell for sure about Guuren, although I believe that if Guuren can defeat Gaara and Shino can own Guuren, it does not actually mean the Shino can easily beat Gaara. I don't think it works that way in Naruto world. The logic simply lies on nature transformation (not really literally comparable, but figuratively speaking).

It seems like techs are more of a vicious cyclic flow, as one may be strong enough against the another one but is weak against another one. Unfortunately, nothing prevails in the end. And, I believe it pretty much applies the same as for people. So we can never tell.
 
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Regarding Gaara intelligence, I think it's fair enough that Gaara has the strategic skills. If you remember during the his fight with Deidara, he managed to crush his arms. Deidara used a dirty tactic to compromise Sunagakure, which clearly affects Gaara's battle strategies. Even one good shinobi may not compromise his safety for the village's destruction. Still, it's hard to think and weigh thoughts amidst the battle. Even so, he managed to use a lot of chakra just to create a defensive shield for the village. Deidara took advantage of this, and succeeded in outsmarting Gaara in the end. If only Gaara didn't use a lot of chakra and ditched the village's safety, he would have succeeded defeating Deidara. But, Gaara is a true noble ninja who will take the village's safety first before his own.

I guess, if Shino was in Gaara's shoes, it would surely compromise his battle strategy as well.

In addition, Gaara may not have that much chakra and stamina as before he was still a jinchuriki, but it does not mean that he have inferior chakra levels at all. It was witnessed during the Kage Summit that his vast ninjutsu skills did not diminish.

There's also a hole on the bugs turning the sand attacks into mud or muddy like substance. I think it'll just remain them as is (sand). I doubt if they'll turn into mud since Shino does not have a nature type, particularly that of water.

The question pretty much lies on The capacity of Shino's bugs. Are they strong enough to withstand sand attacks just before they siphon the energy (chakra) out of the attack? Can they easily penetrate Gaara's strong defensive sand techs? Bugs are living things that are pretty much vulnerable to life and death--and death will make them useless, whereas sand is a lifeless thing that can be reused and molded again and again.

If, and only if the bugs can withstand Gaara's sand techs then Shino has the upper-hand on this fight. But, if you take a look at it at the moment, Gaara has an advantage when it comes to resource (sand and bugs) since his has less vulnerability than Shino's bugs.
correction..deidara let gaara crushed his hand so that he could pace some of his exploding clay in the sand.watch the episode before you post further comments.
 

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Wishful thinking on Your part dose not change History what is is. So let it be writhed so let it be done I can go line by line frame by frame and prove you wrong. But you do not accept facts so who is ignorant? Shino can not beat Gaara He is A Guppy next to a Shark.
 

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correction..deidara let gaara crushed his hand so that he could pace some of his exploding clay in the sand.watch the episode before you post further comments.
I don't think he intentionally let his hand crushed. AFter it happened, he deduced Gaara's tech that's why he came into a conclusion. Here's the manga for your reference:





Idk what happened to the anime, but I'm gonna use the manga as a better resource.

If only Gaara didn't use a lot of chakra for the ultimate defense sand shield for the safety of his village, he would have still enough chakra to keep up after Deidara outsmarted him. Thus, the this battle is compromised and has a little thing to do to question Gaara's strategy/intelligence. After all, he's now a protagonist, you can't let him ditch the village like that for his own safety.
 
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I don't think he intentionally let his hand crushed. AFter it happened, he deduced Gaara's tech that's why he came into a conclusion. Here's the manga for your reference:





Idk what happened to the anime, but I'm gonna use the manga as a better resource.

If only Gaara didn't use a lot of chakra for the ultimate defense sand shield for the safety of his village, he would have still enough chakra to keep up after Deidara outsmarted him. Thus, the this battle is compromised and has a little thing to do to question Gaara's strategy/intelligence.
it would be best that you watch the anime..after the fight has finished he explained it to naruto and kakashi after they asked "how could anyone broke through gaara's defense".
 
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hold shino can win this just the same way deidara did but i still think it highly unlikely because if it work s and he get gaara unconscience gaara bijuu take control of him
 

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i still dont see guren win against gaara. she could cristalize the first few attacks, but afterwards? she has by far not that much chakra, as gaara has.
the strategie deideira used would only work if
1. the bugs dont die in the sand, by pressure or by choking
2. shino can controll them so far that they dont eat the chakra before he tells them to, otherwise gaara would lose control about his sand and the bugs would never get close
3. gaara would use the sand of his shield, to first attack, and afterwards to defend. this would be only given in the situation that gaara is attacked by something his attacks cant reach and which is extremely fast (sand is faster than the bugs, i dont believe that shino could've traced deideiras bird) after attacking something which is extremely hard to hit and what his area-of-effect-attacks cant hit. since shino cant fly, gaara's attacks work against him, so using his ultimate-defence-sand isnt needed.

gaara can flood whole areas with his sand, how can shino escape this? how can his bugs escape an attack like the sand wave? strategie is important, but it wont let you win against an enemy who has all advantages at his side. a seal cant beat a white shark.

and to take into opinion shino is ninja that has never lost a match so far that we've seen. gaara's sand also/im sure moves slower than shino's bugs. keep in mind that shino's bugs can maneuver better than gaara's sand. there are also smaller which makes them almost invisible to the eye.
shino had fought in two matches against enemies who were rather bad. the sunagakure nin was wiped by sasuke within seconds, even chouji was a match for him, and kankuro never was a real enemy for anyone who wasnt foolish enough to be catched off guard by him.
guren, again is a filler char, and shino had weeks of preparation against her, knew her techniques and even adjusted his weapons against her with something we never saw in the manga. it wasnt really fair.
 
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Gaara was protecting The People of The Sand, that why He use so much chakra. It be the Equivalent of Naruto defending every Villager. That is why He let them know to stay put and not get in His way.
 
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