Hinata should have been part of team 7

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So let me guess; you want all of us to share your views to give her some kind of pass because of the fact that she's a side character? I recall Sasori being one as well. With far less panel time. Love these typical excuses from you lot.

What is this garbage? Which part of her did Naruto valued that she didn't want to taint with some kind of development? Quieter and gentler means she shouldn't develop as a Shinobi? Should remain glued to her being, well, largely a burden in platoons? The girl couldn't even climb the wall - which genins can - in The Last. Instead, kept screaming for Naruto to save her. She would have plummeted to her death for her inability to perform even a basic tech? The rest of it is as absurd as your support. Quiet and gentle - the two words that say so much about her character, that one doesn't need any more development. Save it.

What about Pein arc? That one scene where she confessed? Let's all cheer for her Shakespeare depth that allowed for Naruto to nearly destroy the village. The Juubi arc where she simply slapped him, when we are all aware that Naruto was not going to jump alliances any time soon. The impact here on the plot is also monumental, give the tropes that she's well-known for as a character. Am I supposed to take this seriously?

Okay, I am chuckling now. There are plenty of characters that come across opponents who are stronger than them. Fighting against all odds - you just managed to define almost every character in the manga. Yeah, that got her so far. Not able to use chakra to climb a wall in The Last and still struggling with 64 palms - barely managing it - and no Kaiten. This whole mantra of 'but she fought against all odds, she never gave up, she is so kind and gentle' must be your definition of character depth. It's rather nauseating with this pointless paltry speech, when she's still basically stuck at the same mediocrity where she began from.

That irony, when someone cannot tell the difference between pep talk and actual emotional support. That was actually always Iruka for Naruto. Now you are just wasting my time with this long tripe. Learn the difference.

How many of these claims are unsubstantiated? Coming from a guy who doesn't even know what a stock character is, this nonsense is obviously expected. By hey, it goes hand in hand with your Naruto and Minato adoration. One shouldn't expect anything less. Claims she doesn't give up? As if that is a prerequisite for a well-written character. She is meek, so we should all abide by your garbage. Posts two pitiful instances that had no impact on the overall plot-value and her stock character moments.

Why don't you go and research first and then waste someone's time?


@first paragraph bolds. Looks like someone needs to reread my post. I said "Quitter." Acknowledging a character fault. You can't have growth without a flaw to begin with. If anything, it's good she had problems.


@ Last bold AAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDDD we're done. I'm not sure if you've heard of this concept before called "talking is a means of communication and can effect one's mental state" because it would seem that you expect Hinata to go into god mode to alter Naruto's soul with supernatural powers, in which case, you'd still claim that she isn't supporting Naruto. No point in arguing with someone who can't even understand a simple concept such as the fact that words can convey feeling and can reaffirm someone. You've confirmed yourself to be nothing more than a rapid hater.

A wolf came upon a lamb straying from the flock, and felt some compunction about taking the life of so helpless a creature without some plausible excuse. So he cast about for a grievance and said at last, "Last year, sirrah, you grossly insulted me." "That is impossible, sir," bleated the lamb, "for I wasn't born then." "Well," retorted the wolf, "you feed in my pastures." "That cannot be," replied the lamb, "for I have never yet tasted grass." "You drink from my spring, then," continued the wolf. "Indeed, sir," said the poor lamb, "I have never yet drunk anything but my mother's milk." "Well, anyhow," said the wolf, "I'm not going without my dinner." And he sprang upon the lamb and devoured it without more ado.-Aesop's fable.

You're the wolf, Hinata's the sheep. You've reversed our roles. You're the one who's wasting our time. This thread is talking about Hinata's potential if she were a MC. Your not obligated to hate on Hinata or hover around threads about her. My posts are the type that the OP had in mind. Talking about what we think she could offer. You're wasting my time with your hateful nonsense.
 

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HInata >>>>> suckuara

I mean at least hinata hobby was to get better and change
suckara hobby was sasuke
 

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@first paragraph bolds. Looks like someone needs to reread my post. I said "Quitter." Acknowledging a character fault. You can't have growth without a flaw to begin with. If anything, it's good she had problems.


@ Last bold AAAAAANNNNNNNDDDDDD we're done. I'm not sure if you've heard of this concept before called "talking is a means of communication and can effect one's mental state" because it would seem that you expect Hinata to go into god mode to alter Naruto's soul with supernatural powers, in which case, you'd still claim that she isn't supporting Naruto. No point in arguing with someone who can't even understand a simple concept such as the fact that words can convey feeling and can reaffirm someone. You've confirmed yourself to be nothing more than a rapid hater.

A wolf came upon a lamb straying from the flock, and felt some compunction about taking the life of so helpless a creature without some plausible excuse. So he cast about for a grievance and said at last, "Last year, sirrah, you grossly insulted me." "That is impossible, sir," bleated the lamb, "for I wasn't born then." "Well," retorted the wolf, "you feed in my pastures." "That cannot be," replied the lamb, "for I have never yet tasted grass." "You drink from my spring, then," continued the wolf. "Indeed, sir," said the poor lamb, "I have never yet drunk anything but my mother's milk." "Well, anyhow," said the wolf, "I'm not going without my dinner." And he sprang upon the lamb and devoured it without more ado.-Aesop's fable.

You're the wolf, Hinata's the sheep. You've reversed our roles. You're the one who's wasting our time. This thread is talking about Hinata's potential if she were a MC. Your not obligated to hate on Hinata or hover around threads about her. My posts are the type that the OP had in mind. Talking about what we think she could offer. You're wasting my time with your hateful nonsense.

It still covered the main points, even in regards to not being a quitter. As if that is some consecrated character facet.

Funnily, I actually highlighted Iruka. The guy is a sub-par ninja at best. Yet him, along with Jiraiya, and Sasuke had the most impact on his personality. What kind of impact did Hinata have? Did those words get through? Didn't seem like it, as it appears that only Iruka ever managed to get through to Naruto or Sasuke for that matter. Maybe, it's about time you reread the manga. Your memory seems to be fuzzy, as we don't biologically overhear each and every word he listen to. By God ...

Do you know the Wolf and the Sheep tale in the olden Medieval tradition went with the shepherds and the folk logic? Mainly for Parsons and priests leading their flock through the mire for salvation? Though not the Aesop's one. Your analogy is ridiculously idiotic. Let me go for a fitting analogy for you: "A shitty shepherd, shepherding clean sheep" - Chaucer, Parson's portrait: Canterbury tales. I love it how you have religiously taken this role of a defender to lead your little flock of supporters onward. Three cheers for the shitty shepherd, leading Hinata fans to actually believe in some religiously consecrated value to her character.

No, it's all right. The feeling is more mutual than you think. I mean, how did I expect you to not defend her with empty paragraphs, and then brazenly calling them factual tidbits. As if this hasn't happened before. Your repeated ignorance is like a bad case of deja vu.
 
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Shelke, are you actually capable of agreeing or disagreeing with someone without being so condescending and uncouth?

I ask this BEFOREHAND, as I do not intend to waste my precious time trying to articulate their side to someone who cannot be open-minded otherwise.
 

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No as in the end she would have been useless in the final battle against Kaguya.

The things Sakura did in that fight were plot holes(like Kakashi running through heavy gravity). So the plot would have made Hinata useful.
 

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Any replacement for sakura would be for the better of the team, though if kishi really intended to go the Kaguya route from the begining he may as well have put more focus on hyuugas through a main character.
 

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Any replacement for sakura would be for the better of the team, though if kishi really intended to go the Kaguya route from the begining he may as well have put more focus on hyuugas through a main character.

This. We might as well have a Hyuga medic. Yes definitely.
Hinata as an outcast from her clan then found her strength in medical ninjutsu. Then she has Jyuuken, Hinata Op
 

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I think SasuHina could have happened.

Yes definitely. A Legit love triangle. But really Id still go for NaruHina. Nah wait maybe Ill ship SasuHina for real.

Wait I just thought about it. Two doujutsu users in a team? Plus kakashi. Hmmm. Naruto would he have some inferiority something?
 

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Yes definitely. A Legit love triangle. But really Id still go for NaruHina. Nah wait maybe Ill ship SasuHina for real.

Wait I just thought about it. Two doujutsu users in a team? Plus kakashi. Hmmm. Naruto would he have some inferiority something?
Note: The only reason Hinata never looked at Sasuke was because she was so infatuated with Naruto, not because she never liked him.

For all we know, if she was forced with Sasuke in a squad, she would be leaking womanly juices from each of her ovaries for both Naruto and Sasuke rather than just Naruto.
 

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Note: The only reason Hinata never looked at Sasuke was because she was so infatuated with Naruto, not because she never liked him.

For all we know, if she was forced with Sasuke in a squad, she would be leaking womanly juices from each of her ovaries for both Naruto and Sasuke rather than just Naruto.

Yes. I SHIP NH because of what I see.
now If Hinata is to be in team 7 with different situation, Ill definitely ship SasuHina. But it all depends.
 

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I think SasuHina could have happened.

Yes definitely. A Legit love triangle. But really Id still go for NaruHina. Nah wait maybe Ill ship SasuHina for real.

Wait I just thought about it. Two doujutsu users in a team? Plus kakashi. Hmmm. Naruto would he have some inferiority something?

Note: The only reason Hinata never looked at Sasuke was because she was so infatuated with Naruto, not because she never liked him.

For all we know, if she was forced with Sasuke in a squad, she would be leaking womanly juices from each of her ovaries for both Naruto and Sasuke rather than just Naruto.

Yes. I SHIP NH because of what I see.
now If Hinata is to be in team 7 with different situation, Ill definitely ship SasuHina. But it all depends.

The shocking moment when you realize that Hinata and Sasuke had not exchanged a single sentence in 700 chapters.

Kiba, Ino, Sai, Shikamaru, Lee, Neji, Tenten, Temari, Kankuro, Gaara all exchanged at least one sentence with Sasuke at least. Hinata only has eyes for Noodles. Part 1 Sasuke would probably ignore Hinata harder than he ignored Sakura.
 

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The shocking moment when you realize that Hinata and Sasuke had not exchanged a single sentence in 700 chapters.

Kiba, Ino, Sai, Shikamaru, Lee, Neji, Tenten, Temari, Kankuro, Gaara all exchanged at least one sentence with Sasuke at least. Hinata only has eyes for Noodles. Part 1 Sasuke would probably ignore Hinata harder than he ignored Sakura.

See, never a Byakugan Sharingan meeting.
Is that restricted from happening?
Will something happen when their eyes meet?

Wait Neji and Sasuke did meet right?
so why not Hinata a d Sasuke?
 

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oh please sasuhina is disgusting, Uchiha and Hyuuga are so much alike, Kishi probably though that shit would be incest and i agree because for me their clans are the most related ones in all the NV!!!

also Sasuke's personality is not suited for any one in the manga except Naruto (but the manga is not yaoi) and Karin (with less crappy stuff like her rape delirium of course, Karin is what Sakura failed to be: an interesting character with a background and something to focus on), Hinata is only suited for Naruto, it's just a matter of balance and complementarity between characters.

maybe that's why Kishi put Hinata aside even if she's one of the first character he made after and for Naruto, her entire character is relief for him and Sasuke would have destroyed that if the story took the same route :nuts:
 
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Hinata is definition of failure in this manga
The blot on Hyuga name
Needed epitome of retconned @$$pull to get with Naruto
 

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I'd imagine Hinata threatening Sasuke with pain of death if he ever stepped out of line again and tried to hurt her Naruto-kun or friend Sakura. "I've got my byakugan on you Uchiha boy" >_>

If only Hinata was so bold.
 

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Hinata is definition of failure in this manga
The blot on Hyuga name
Needed epitome of retconned @$$pull to get with Naruto

I think this post is a failure itself.
Many characters consider themselves as failures

Kakashi, Jiraiya, Minato, Obito, Naruto...

So Hinata made it to the list, im happy.
 

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I think this post is a failure itself.
Many characters consider themselves as failures

Kakashi, Jiraiya, Minato, Obito, Naruto...

So Hinata made it to the list, im happy.

Ty and Hyu rules =D
 
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