Is Sasuke the only character to redeem himself from being soloed?

[Naruto X Hunter]

Sasuke is a fodder, and I'm one of his fans so don't take it personally.

Yall just hype him too much because of WHO he is, and not what HE has done.

i'm not saying Naruto is better but at least he can fight without looking retarded at the end.

It's like "I lost ..but I'll get another power-up and beat your ass later!" type of deal.

What are you saying? Do you know what the term fodder means? And are you really downplaying Sasuke for losing and thinking about how he will get stronger and surpass his opponent? That's retarded? Naruto is like that aswell.He lost to Sasuke at the begining of part 2,called himself weak,then went off to train to become stronger.

Your logic is so off.

"Yall just hype him too much because of WHO he is, and not what HE has done."

????? "We" talk about him and mention what he's done.i don't exactly get what you're saying.

Well I say he is a fodder because everytime he had something, they increased him to a completely new level. Like he is an Uchiha, why would he need anything but his Sharingan? I mean look at Itachi before that Totsuka blade hype, and now no one can take him seriously because why would a real Uchiha such as Itachi need those weapons?

Sasuke on the other hand is just a tactical genius, but he still wasn't capable to win a fight on his own, and their fans like to say he is the Solo King because of plot-given hack powers. Mhm whatever.

Okay,so Sasuke and Itachi can't use anything other than there natural powers.They have so you call them fodder.But anyone else doing that and it's okay.But if someone were to say Naruto is fodder cause he has the Kyuubi you would go against that.

You're inconsistent and contradictory.You unlogically bash the characters because of your perceived perception of some fans of these characters.

Real smart.

How does hitting someone who hit you redeem you? Sasuke still got soloed, Madara didn't die, unlike Sasuke which means he was not redeemed, and the saving thing is irrelevant, who cares? Plus Haku still could have beat Sasuke from the beginning if he wasn't holding back, he also still could have beat Sasuke in a 1 on 1 with sharingan.



In a 1 on 1 Haku still would have won though.



That doesn't mean he admitted defeat. He still could have won in a 1 vs 1.



Your saying im off topic when your the one who keeps mentioning Naruto was saved more, it is true but as already mentioned it is off topic so lets just drop it. Plus Haku would have won if Naruto wasn't there at all.



No i said that if your going to restrict Bee for hachibi then why don't we restrict MS for Sasuke, i never said Bee still had hachibi. Gaara could have won, the only reason he didn't was because he was scared of blood, the invasion started and he was insane and liked to play with his opponents. A non crazy Gaara could have won.



Genjutsu still could have been released via normal methods, Bee without hachibi nearly killed Sasuke at the beginning if it wasn't for Taka and nothing can change that fact.



He meant he couldn't move outside of the Genjutsu, plus Bee nearly killed Sasuke at the beginning of the fight without Hachibi, he was saved because of Taka. Its also unfair to restrict Hachibi from Bee just because he helps bee, when Itachi helped unlocked Sasuke's MS aswell. a Base Bee easily defeats Hebi Sasuke, and he has a chance to defeat MS without Hachibi if he plays his cards right. Itachi helped Sasuke unlock MS and Bee was given Hachibi and managed to withstand it. Sasuke didn't do anything to unlock MS himself, it was all played under Itachi's hand. Plus it was a 2 vs 4, Remove 2 people from Sasuke's side and he gets stomped, doesn't matter which two you remove.

Sasuke could see and dodge all of Haku's attacks.If he was fighting one on one then he would have lost.

Taking away MS is ridiculous,it's not a living being.I just explained.Stop ignoring what i say.A true one on one is no Taka or Hachibi.Sasuke could easily finish him with Solo Glance.It's that simple.

Gaara lost,it's that simple.

 

[southern sun]

You have cat to be kitten me right meow.

What deos Taka have to do with MS? Sasuke can use Genjutsu on his own,without help.

He able to paralyze anyone like Bee with Sharingan genjutsu only if they were weak...

1)-Sai

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Legit, but he's fodder

2)-Manda

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Pure BS can't count

3)-C

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Legit, but he's fodder

1)- Naruto

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And ofcourse we know he went into his subconscious.

Naruto was weak plus he went into his subconscious only 5 page later

2)-Orochimaru

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Glance - Flashback jutsu

Oro was weak+Sasuke couldn't paralyze him

3)-Kabuto

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As a distraction, yes. As an attack, no.

Conclusion:
His Sharingan genjutsu working very well only on fodders
His Sharingan genjutsu could paralyze someone like Bee only if they weak (Oro,Naruto)
His Sharingan genjutsu working more like distraction than attack

 

[shelke]

Conclusion:
His Sharingan genjutsu working very well only on fodders
His Sharingan genjutsu could paralyze someone like Bee only if they weak (Oro,Naruto)
His Sharingan genjutsu working more like distraction than attack

This is signature worthy, as Orochimaru has a 5 in Genjutsu. He's a genjutsu specialist. Bee being weak in fight is joke of the century.

 

[Stark]

Kaguya fodderized Sasuke like 5x in one fight, and his best return was a group attack Lol

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Because it wasn't solo:
He coudn't beat Gaara when he was transformed into Shukaku
He couldn't beat Bee 1vs1 ( Bee could solo him twice if not Taka)
He couldn't beat Madara 1vs1 (need Naruto to deal with Limbo clones)

When has Naruto ever beat anyone alone? Never.

I disliked your blind fanboyism. Sasuke couldn't beat transformed Gaara aka strongest Gaara.

At the time only Naruto could, cuz it was a 2v2.

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[V h o]

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When has Naruto ever beat anyone alone? Never.



At the time only Naruto could, cuz it was a 2v2.

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Lol yeah let's drag Naruto into this, when he wasn't even mentioned

 

[southern sun]

This is signature worthy, as Orochimaru has a 5 in Genjutsu. He's a genjutsu specialist. Bee being weak in fight is joke of the century.

It's simple hype without feats.

When has Naruto ever beat anyone alone? Never.

5 bijuus, Haku, Gaara, 4 Pains body

 

[Stark]

Lol yeah let's drag Naruto into this, when he wasn't even mentioned

Cuz' you know damn well SM Naruto would get spanked without Kurama

It's simple hype without feats.5 bijuus, Haku, Gaara, 4 Pains body

5 Bijuus he had Kurama.
Haku, he had Sasuke and Kurama.
Gaara, he had Sasuke and Kurama.
Pain, he had Kurama, Toads of Myoboku. Plus Nagato committed suicide lmao.

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[lndra]

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When has Naruto ever beat anyone alone? Never.



At the time only Naruto could, cuz it was a 2v2.

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Has Sasuke even beat anyone besides Naruto? I mean like a legit character that wasn't designed in the main plot to last.

(Naruto obviously lost because of plot restriction. Sasuke had to leave towards Orochimaru and Taka Sasuke solos that Naruto, but after .. Naruto beats his ass.

 

[Vapid]

Snip.

No Drake pics or crunking gifs? I'm disappointed.

 

[southern sun]

Cuz' you know damn well SM Naruto would get spanked without Kurama



5 Bijuus he had Kurama.
Haku, he had Sasuke and Kurama.
Gaara, he had Sasuke and Kurama.
Pain, he had Kurama, Toads of Myoboku. Plus Nagato committed suicide lmao.

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Ok then :grin:

 

[Stark]

Has Sasuke even beat a character that was designed to last because of the main plot? Without a team filled with OP users to heal him Lol

Is that the best you could come up with? Naruto was the loser main character who needed to defeat everyone to bring worth to his existence so he could be accepted, Sasuke never wanted that since he had an actual goal.

Naruto has never even killed anyone lmao, Sasuke has killed hundreds already. Sad his only kill would have been Kakuzu but Kakuzu got finished by Kakashi.

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Ok then :grin:

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[lndra]

Is that the best you could come up with? Naruto was the loser main character who needed to defeat everyone to bring worth to his existence so he could be accepted, Sasuke never wanted that since he had an actual goal.

Naruto has never even killed anyone lmao, Sasuke has killed hundreds already. Sad his only kill would have been Kakuzu but Kakuzu got finished by Kakashi.

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Yet you could not answer the question. I know where Naruto stands he was never made to shine in the beginning, not until he trained himself with the help of others.

Yet we are talking about Sasuke. Who is the incarinate of Indra, who is supposed to shine above Naruto, who is supposed to be excel at everything he can ... alone. Yet he can't even do all that.

Lol

 

[V h o]

Cuz' you know damn well SM Naruto would get spanked without Kurama



5 Bijuus he had Kurama.
Haku, he had Sasuke and Kurama.
Gaara, he had Sasuke and Kurama.
Pain, he had Kurama, Toads of Myoboku. Plus Nagato committed suicide lmao.

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What can that fodder do without his pet carrying his as? Since day 1 kurama has been amplifying Naruto's fodder chakra.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

He solo'ed himself when he ended up with Suckura.

 

[Stark]

Yet you could not answer the question. I know where Naruto stands he was never made to shine in the beginning, not until he trained himself with the help of others.

Yet we are talking about Sasuke. Who is the incarinate of Indra, who is supposed to shine above Naruto, who is supposed to be excel at everything he can ... alone. Yet he can't even do all that.

Lol

Pretty sad the main character relied on a demon fox to fight all his battles with him, and in the end instead of being an individual he not only gets back his lost Kurama but he gets 8 other beasts as well. Talk about improvement, I see him doing so well without those beasts.


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What can that fodder do without his pet carrying his as? Since day 1 kurama has been amplifying Naruto's
fodder chakra.

Yeah, truly a disgrace to Minato Namikaze and his so called brilliant clan the Uzumaki.

 

[Vapid]

He solo'ed himself when he ended up with Suckura.

Don't forget about when he TnJ'd himself!

 

[lndra]

What are you saying? Do you know what the term fodder means? And are you really downplaying Sasuke for losing and thinking about how he will get stronger and surpass his opponent? That's retarded? Naruto is like that aswell.He lost to Sasuke at the begining of part 2,called himself weak,then went off to train to become stronger.

Your logic is so off.

"Yall just hype him too much because of WHO he is, and not what HE has done."

????? "We" talk about him and mention what he's done.i don't exactly get what you're saying.



Okay,so Sasuke and Itachi can't use anything other than there natural powers.They have so you call them fodder.But anyone else doing that and it's okay.But if someone were to say Naruto is fodder cause he has the Kyuubi you would go against that.

You're inconsistent and contradictory.You unlogically bash the characters because of your perceived perception of some fans of these characters.

Real smart.

Sigh. There you are again. You obviously don't know Sasuke as good as you think you do.

You didn't even understand the quote so let me rephrase it for your mind.
Sasuke is a weak character, he excels beacuse of plot, and he grows because of plot. Your fanbase hypes him to the extreme when he has no features besides tactical prowess.

Now I'm not talking about Naruto so please, go somewhere with that. I know where he stands and how is character is supposed to be portrayed. He was given Kurama at birth, befriended him, and gained power through friendships and hardwork.

We are talking about Sasuke. Who is the Indra reincarnate, the lone wolf. He is supposed to excel at anything he does without the use of others, thats what makes him a fodder as a character.
Sasuke can't do anything by himself, and even now he can because of the things he was given as a character.

I'm not stating he is supposed to do anything alone and I know he needed a mentor aka Orochimaru. Though in fights where Sasuke has tactical prowess and is supposed to excel as a true Uchiha-Indra Incarnate we were supposed to believe. He fails each and every time.

 

[lndra]

Pretty sad the main character relied on a demon fox to fight all his battles with him, and in the end instead of being an individual he not only gets back his lost Kurama but he gets 8 other beasts as well. Talk about improvement, I see him doing so well without those beasts.

Well actually Naruto has shown to beat a lot of characters without the Kyuubi's help. He can't pick what power that was given to him, I mean Minato had to seal it. Yet you can't even come up with a good argument ...Nice intelligence.

Naruto vs Pain in the beginning without him killing Hinata - GG
Naruto vs Kakuzu (Spelled right? Idk, don't care lmao) - Showing growth
Naruto vs Sasuke Part 1 - Naruto should of won, plot restriction for Sasuke to leave and he aimed for the headband. Gg.
Naruto vs Sasuke S. Part 1 - Taka Sasuke solos
Naruto vs. Kurama to seal chakra - Naruto beat his ass, even Kurama was suprised.

Yet Sasuke..
Sasuke vs Deidara - Tell me again how he did that? Plot.
Sasuke vs Danzo - LMAO. He would of lost without Karin and even Obito had to almost step in to save his ass. Danzo being beaten by Sasuke who wasn't even thinking clearly? Okay Lol
Sasuke vs anyone literally besides Naruto

He really does fail.

 

[shelke]

It's simple hype without feats.5 bijuus, Haku, Gaara, 4 Pains body

Says you. Got anything else to back this up? Oh wait, it's just you and your words.

 

[Stark]

Well actually Naruto has shown to beat a lot of characters without the Kyuubi's help. He can't pick what power that was given to him, I mean Minato had to seal it. Yet you can't even come up with a good argument ...Nice intelligence.

Naruto vs Pain in the beginning without him killing Hinata - GG
Naruto vs Kakuzu (Spelled right? Idk, don't care lmao) - Showing growth
Naruto vs Sasuke Part 1 - Naruto should of won, plot restriction for Sasuke to leave and he aimed for the headband. Gg.
Naruto vs Sasuke S. Part 1 - Taka Sasuke solos
Naruto vs. Kurama to seal chakra - Naruto beat his ass, even Kurama was suprised.

Yet Sasuke..
Sasuke vs Deidara - Tell me again how he did that? Plot.
Sasuke vs Danzo - LMAO. He would of lost with Karin and even Obito had to almost step in to save his ass. Danzo being beaten by Sasuke who wasn't even thinking clearly? Okay Lol
Sasuke vs anyone literally besides Naruto

He really does fail.

Sasuke vs Deidara, tell you how he did that.

Skill, cunning, flawless superiority, Deidara had to commit suicide to have hopes of killing him. I bet if Naruto summoned Kurama and hid in its mouth nobody would even care, shit had it been Naruto half of Konoha would be at his side along with Kakashi, Sakura, Sai, Yamato, all K11 etc..

Sasuke vs Danzo? Don't you mean Sasuke vs everyone at the damn summit, aside from Suigetsu and Jugo fighting Darui and the Raikage for a few minutes Sasuke was there on his own, then Karin healing him for Danzo and he beat Danzo not even at 100%, you can stay mad at that though, cause if Kurama healed Naruto it would be acceptable right?

Sasuke vs anyone other than Kaguya, Madara, Hagoromo and Hamura get negged, Naruto is basically his only equal with the 9 Tailed beasts.

He really does fail? Let's see Naruto fighting with no Demon Fox in the real world lets see how many times he fails on top of his long list of failures. So sad that you hate a fictional character.

Nice bias as well, such intelligence much wow.