Is Sasuke the only character to redeem himself from being soloed?

[southern sun]

The Sharingan can see Chakra.When Sasuke said Naruto was running out of chakra,do you think he was lying?

Seeing chakra not equals seeing quantity of chakraas i said.

The Sage confirmed Naruto had chakra from all the Bijuu,he said it twice,and Sasuke,who can see chakra,said Naruto was running out.If Naruto didn't use the Bijuus chakra then why was he running out of chakra? Why would Sasuke say he was running out?

Maybe Sasuke can't see Kyuubi's chakra in a separate place?

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1. It was Zetsu words.

2. Itachi said that Sasuke was low on chakra because he used jutsu from Orochimaru's repertoire, not because Sharingan can see chakra.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Seeing chakra not equals seeing quantity of chakraas i said. Maybe Sasuke can't see Kyuubi's chakra in a separate place?

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1. It was Zetsu words.

2. Itachi said Sasuke was low on chakra because he used jutsu from Orochimaru's repertoire, not because Sharingan can see chakra.

It's already proven that the Sharingan can see chakra,including the Kyuubi's - Tobi clearly saw Naruto had chakra from all the Bijuu.Count the balls of chakra around Naruto,it equals up to nine.How many Bijuu are there? Nine

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1)Zetsu said the obvoius,they were exhausted.Exhausted why? Because they used all their chakra,which

2)Itachi literally said that the Sharingan can see chakra.,Why do you still deny that that is the reason he knew Sasuke was out of chakra? He knew Sasuke was out of chakra because he could see it.That was clear.

He didn't say Sasuke was low on chakra.He said he was OUT of chakra,stop changing the story.The reason why Sasuke was out of chakra was becauae he used Orochimaru's substitution jutsu.

Sasuke could see Naruto was running out of chakra.All evidence leads to Naruto obvoiusly have used the Bijuus chakra.If he didn't he wouldn't have been exhausted,and Sasuke wouldn't have commented on him running out of chakra.

You lost the debate.Realize and accept that Naruto used their chakra.There is no proof that he didn't use it,the only thing that counters me is bad reading comprehension.

 

[UzumakiWade]

How did he get back at Itachi exactly? He beat a holding back, nearly blind, sick Itachi. A Bloodlusted Itachi with 100% sight and no sickness would've beaten Hebi Sasuke low-mid diff.

He needed help from Naruto to beat Madara, Needed help from taka to beat Bee, needed help from team 7 to beat Kaguya, he never soloed back the characters who nearly soloed him, he got help. Haku could have beat him too but Haku clearly stated he didn't want to kill them which means he was holding back yet he still managed to nearly solo Sasuke if it wasn't for Naruto. Gaara i admit at that time could have lost, but the Gaara during the Sasuke retrieval arc would have smacked that Uchiha ass.

 

[southern sun]

It's already proven that the Sharingan can see chakra,including the Kyuubi's - Tobi clearly saw Naruto had chakra from all the Bijuu.

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I only see on that Tobi underrated Naruto... Not solid proof that Sharingan can see quantity of chakra

2),Why do you still deny that that is the reason he knew Sasuke was out of chakra? He knew Sasuke was out of chakra because he could see it.That was clear.
...The reason why Sasuke was out of chakra was becauae he used Orochimaru's substitution jutsu.

And Itachi probably knew about whole Orochimaru's repertoire and amount of chakra that these jutsu require ... It also not solid proof that Sharingan can see quantity of chakra

Sasuke could see Naruto was running out of chakra.All evidence leads to Naruto obvoiusly have used the Bijuus chakra.If he didn't he wouldn't have been exhausted,and Sasuke wouldn't have commented on him running out of chakra.

1.He underrated Naruto again
2. Sasuke can't see Kyuubi's chakra in a separate place.

You lost the debate.

Nope. We both haven't solid proof.

There is no proof that he didn't use it,the only thing that counters me is bad reading comprehension.

>Uses bad reading comprehension (Tobi underrated Naruto and this reason why Sharingan can see chakra quantity)
>Blame me for bad reading comprehension

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

How did he get back at Itachi exactly? He beat a holding back, nearly blind, sick Itachi. A Bloodlusted Itachi with 100% sight and no sickness would've beaten Hebi Sasuke low-mid diff.

He needed help from Naruto to beat Madara, Needed help from taka to beat Bee, needed help from team 7 to beat Kaguya, he never soloed back the characters who nearly soloed him, he got help. Haku could have beat him too but Haku clearly stated he didn't want to kill them which means he was holding back yet he still managed to nearly solo Sasuke if it wasn't for Naruto. Gaara i admit at that time could have lost, but the Gaara during the Sasuke retrieval arc would have smacked that Uchiha ass.

You missed the point.He never said Sasuke solo'd them back.He said Sasuke REDEEMED himself after getting solo'd.

Like against Madara.Madara stabbed him with his sword.Then later,Sasuke comes back and stabbs Madara with his sword.Kaguya wasn't mentioned in the OP at all.Against Itachi,he still ended up dieing against him,yes ofcourse he was holding back but at the end of the day Sasuke got his revenge,by achieving his goal,which was Itachi's death

I made a comment on the first page about Haku.Yes Haku was holding back at first but once Sasuke awakened his Sharingan,Haku knew Sasuke would win so he targeted Naruto.Naruto did not save Sasuke.Sasuke saved Naruto twice,with the second time leaving Sasuke unconscoius.

Bee needed help from the Hachibi to beat Sasuke.Without help on both sides and Sasuke would win.You thinking Gaara would win at the end of part 1 is irrelevant,and off topic,and based on that someone can easily counter by doing exactly what you did for Gaara - they could bring up Sasuke in a later part of the story and say Sasuke would win.

I only see on that Tobi underrated Naruto... Not solid proof that Sharingan can see quantity of chakra

And Itachi probably knew about whole Orochimaru's repertoire and amount of chakra that these jutsu require ... It also not solid proof that Sharingan can see quantity of chakra


1.He underrated Naruto again
2. Sasuke can't see Kyuubi's chakra in a separate place.
Nope. We both haven't solid proof.
>Uses bad reading comprehension (Tobi underrated Naruto and this reason why Sharingan can see chakra quantity)
>Blame me for bad reading comprehension

What exactly do you mean by quantity? The Sharingan can see chakra.Itachi saw Sasuke had NO chakra left.He wasn't estimating or any thing.Sasuke had no chakra at all.

Itachi knew Sasuke had no chakra left,Tobi noticed the Bijuus chakra as soon as Naruto got it,yet you're still doubting Sasuke could tell Naruto was running low on chakra which he is able to see.

If Tobi could see the Kyuubi's chakra,why not Sasuke?

 

[UzumakiWade]

You missed the point.He never said Sasuke solo'd them back.He said Sasuke REDEEMED himself after getting solo'd.

Like against Madara.Madara stabbed him with his sword.Then later,Sasuke comes back and stabbs Madara with his sword.Kaguya wasn't mentioned in the OP at all.Against Itachi,he still ended up dieing against him,yes ofcourse ue was holding back but at the end of the day Sasuke got his revenge,by achieving his goal,which was Itachi's death

So basically this thread is about how Sasuke hit people who hit him? Cutting Madara in half doesn't redeem him from being soloed, he was still soloed, he never soloed Madara back, just cut him in half, he was still alive. Itachi was still holding back and wanted Sasuke to kill him, he never redeemed himself since he wasn't the murderer. Itachi suicided by allowing himself to be killed by Sasuke, So what if Kaguya wasn't mentioned? He still never redeemed himself from being soloed by her so she counts.

I made a comment on the first page about Haku.Yes Haku was holding back at first but once Sasuke awakened his Sharingan,Haku knew Sasuke would wij so he targeted Naruto.Naruto did not save Sasuke.Sasuke saved Naruto twice,with the second time leaving Sasuke unconscoius.

Scan of Haku saying he could lose to Sasuke because of sharingan? Just because he got a bit intimidated doesn't mean he admitted defeat, he could have easily soloed Sasuke sharingan or not if he wasn't holding back. Sasuke saved Naruto once, show me the scan of the second time. But either way throughout the manga Sasuke has been saved more times so it doesn't matter.

Bee needed help from the Hachibi to beat Sasuke.Without help on both sides and Sasuke would win.You thinking Gaara would win at the end of part 1 is irrelevant,and off topic,and based on that someone can easily counter by doing exactly what you did for Gaara - they could bring up Sasuke in a later part of the story and say Sasuke would win.

Im still talking about part 1 gaara though, the latest version of part 1 Sasuke would never beat latest version of part 1 gaara, Gaara could have even won at the exam if he wasn't insane. That Bee part is bullcrap, Hachibi is his power, Itachi helped Sasuke get MS so i guess we should count out MS too since Itachi helped him unlock it huh? Plus Bee wasn't using Hachibi's chakra in the beginning of the battle and yet he almost killed Sasuke, if it wasn't for Karin's healing. In fact he was soloing the entire team taka without hachibi's chakra at the beginning. So how do you know Bee couldn't take MS Sasuke without Hachibi? He was certainly doing a fine job without Hachibi at the beginning.

 

[southern sun]

What exactly do you mean by quantity? The Sharingan can see chakra.Itachi saw Sasuke had NO chakra left.He wasn't estimating or any thing.Sasuke had no chakra at all.

Itachi knew Sasuke had no chakra left,Tobi noticed the Bijuus chakra as soon as Naruto got it,yet you're still doubting Sasuke could tell[/QUOTE]

Naruto was running low on chakra which he is able to see.

Sharingan can see only chakra flow and chakra color... He can't see your chakra reserves... i.e It was probably BS/plothole that Itachi can see Sasuke's chakra pool

If Tobi could see the Kyuubi's chakra,why not Sasuke?

He can see Kyuubi's chakra, but no his chakra reserves...It's just not Sharingan ability

 

[Awkward Linguist]

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[Naruto X Hunter]

So basically this thread is about how Sasuke hit people who hit him? Cutting Madara in half doesn't redeem him from being soloed, he was still soloed, he never soloed Madara back, just cut him in half, he was still alive. Itachi was still holding back and wanted Sasuke to kill him, he never redeemed himself since he wasn't the murderer. Itachi suicided by allowing himself to be killed by Sasuke, So what if Kaguya wasn't mentioned? He still never redeemed himself from being soloed by her so she counts.




Scan of Haku saying he could lose to Sasuke because of sharingan? Just because he got a bit intimidated doesn't mean he admitted defeat, he could have easily soloed Sasuke sharingan or not if he wasn't holding back. Sasuke saved Naruto once, show me the scan of the second time. But either way throughout the manga Sasuke has been saved more times so it doesn't matter.





Im still talking about part 1 gaara though, the latest version of part 1 Sasuke would never beat latest version of part 1 gaara, Gaara could have even won at the exam if he wasn't insane. That Bee part is bullcrap, Hachibi is his power, Itachi helped Sasuke get MS so i guess we should count out MS too since Itachi helped him unlock it huh? Plus Bee wasn't using Hachibi's chakra in the beginning of the battle and yet he almost killed Sasuke, if it wasn't for Karin's healing. In fact he was soloing the entire team taka without hachibi's chakra at the beginning. So how do you know Bee couldn't take MS Sasuke without Hachibi? He was certainly doing a fine job without Hachibi at the beginning.

He redeemed himself by landing the same type of hit on Madara which he did to him,and futhermore him in half.Once Sasuke awakened the Sharingan he completely saw through Haku's movements - he saved Naruto twice.Did you look at my comment? I posted the pages and it's clear he saved Naruto twice.Look again.

Sasuke began to see through his movements before he awakenes the Sharingan,and once he did awaken it he completely saw through Haku's movements,and was able to evade the first time while saving Naruto.The 2nd he got hit,cause Haku decided to aim at Naruto to lure Sasuke in so he could hit Sasuke.That is why that time he charged at Sasuke.He knew Sasuke would run to save Naruto which gave him a chance to hit Sasuke.

Sasuke evaded Haku's attack while saving Naruto at first,until he decided to target Naruto to lure Sasuke in.So if Sasuke's able to dodge his attacks while saving Naruto ofcourse Sasuke could dodge alone - Haku knew that,So he went after Naruto.

Sasuke would have won if Haku never went after Naruto.Haku knew that.And you again went off topic by saying Naruto saved Sasuke more throughout the story.Not only is that false but off topic.

Gaara couldn't have won in the stadium if he was chill.Hot got stomped.Hachibi is a Gigantic creature with massive amounts of chakra.MS isn't,dumb comparison.You talk about not having help,Sasuke without Taka - yet you allow for Bee to have the Hachibi?

A true one on one is Sasuke,no Taka, Vs Bee,No Hachibi.You mentioned how Bee was owning Sasuke at the begining of the fight,but that's irrelevant - it's not in the conditions of a true one on one.Do you know how much of a advantage the Hachibi is? Sasuke can't use his full powers against him.He can't use Genjutsu because the Hachibi would save him.

How do i know Sasuke would against Bee one on one? Easy.He gets Negged by Solo Glance.

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He wasn't using the Hachibi's power in the begining,but who saves him from Solo Glance? In a true one on one Sasuke easily wins.

 

[southern sun]

How do i know Sasuke would against Bee one on one? Easy.He gets Negged by Solo Glance.

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"I can't move"

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He wasn't using the Hachibi's power in the begining,but who saves him from Solo Glance? In a true one on one Sasuke easily wins

If not Taka Sasuke even have no chance to awaken MS and solo glance... So 1 vs 1 Sasuke would be dead.

 

[Awkward Linguist]

He redeemed himself by landing the same type of hit on Madara which he did to him,and futhermore him in half.Once Sasuke awakened the Sharingan he completely saw through Haku's movements - he saved Naruto twice.Did you look at my comment? I posted the pages and it's clear he saved Naruto twice.Look again.

Do you understand the term and concept of the word 'solo'?
Slicing Madara in half or teleporting his sword into him does not mean that he soloed madara, or redeemed himself. Soloing someone means taking them out to the point they're unable to continue. To be frank, madara didn't give two shits about what sauce or nachos did to him. He's an immortal who's able to regenerate regardless of the magnitude of the attack. What kind of an adult would fight seriously against a child? All madara did was stab, not slice, just stab sasky and sauce was coughing up blood like aids victim itachi.
Speaking of itachi, sasky didn't redeem himself then. Lol if anything that poor fodder made himself look even bad. Hunting down his sick, already dying brother, just to kill him. Poor sauce got negged so bad and so fast in a battle of genjutsu's, never mind the actual combat. To be honest, Itachi on his death bed would easily killed sasky. Only plot saved your weak fav from some real ass whooping. Part 2 is shit, just like your character is at everything.
Stay mad.
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[UzumakiWade]

He redeemed himself by landing the same type of hit on Madara which he did to him,and futhermore him in half.Once Sasuke awakened the Sharingan he completely saw through Haku's movements - he saved Naruto twice.Did you look at my comment? I posted the pages and it's clear he saved Naruto twice.Look again.

How does hitting someone who hit you redeem you? Sasuke still got soloed, Madara didn't die, unlike Sasuke which means he was not redeemed, and the saving thing is irrelevant, who cares? Plus Haku still could have beat Sasuke from the beginning if he wasn't holding back, he also still could have beat Sasuke in a 1 on 1 with sharingan.

Sasuke began to see through his movements before he awakenes the Sharingan,and once he did awaken it he completely saw through Haku's movements,and was able to evade the first time while saving Naruto.The 2nd he got hit,cause Haku decided to aim at Naruto to lure Sasuke in so he could hit Sasuke.That is why that time he charged at Sasuke.He knew Sasuke would run to save Naruto which gave him a chance to hit Sasuke.

In a 1 on 1 Haku still would have won though.

Sasuke evaded Haku's attack while saving Naruto at first,until he decided to target Naruto to lure Sasuke in.So if Sasuke's able to dodge his attacks while saving Naruto ofcourse Sasuke could dodge alone - Haku knew that,So he went after Naruto.

That doesn't mean he admitted defeat. He still could have won in a 1 vs 1.

Sasuke would have won if Haku never went after Naruto.Haku knew that.And you again went off topic by saying Naruto saved Sasuke more throughout the story.Not only is that false but off topic.

Your saying im off topic when your the one who keeps mentioning Naruto was saved more, it is true but as already mentioned it is off topic so lets just drop it. Plus Haku would have won if Naruto wasn't there at all.

Gaara couldn't have won in the stadium if he was chill.Hot got stomped.Hachibi is a Gigantic creature with massive amounts of chakra.MS isn't,dumb comparison.You talk about not having help,Sasuke without Taka - yet you allow for Bee to have the Hachibi?

No i said that if your going to restrict Bee for hachibi then why don't we restrict MS for Sasuke, i never said Bee still had hachibi. Gaara could have won, the only reason he didn't was because he was scared of blood, the invasion started and he was insane and liked to play with his opponents. A non crazy Gaara could have won.

A true one on one is Sasuke,no Taka, Vs Bee,No Hachibi.You mentioned how Bee was owning Sasuke at the begining of the fight,but that's irrelevant - it's not in the conditions of a true one on one.Do you know how much of a advantage the Hachibi is? Sasuke can't use his full powers against him.He can't use Genjutsu because the Hachibi would save him.

Genjutsu still could have been released via normal methods, Bee without hachibi nearly killed Sasuke at the beginning if it wasn't for Taka and nothing can change that fact.

How do i know Sasuke would against Bee one on one? Easy.He gets Negged by Solo Glance.

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He wasn't using the Hachibi's power in the begining,but who saves him from Solo Glance? In a true one on one Sasuke easily wins.

He meant he couldn't move outside of the Genjutsu, plus Bee nearly killed Sasuke at the beginning of the fight without Hachibi, he was saved because of Taka. Its also unfair to restrict Hachibi from Bee just because he helps bee, when Itachi helped unlocked Sasuke's MS aswell. a Base Bee easily defeats Hebi Sasuke, and he has a chance to defeat MS without Hachibi if he plays his cards right. Itachi helped Sasuke unlock MS and Bee was given Hachibi and managed to withstand it. Sasuke didn't do anything to unlock MS himself, it was all played under Itachi's hand. Plus it was a 2 vs 4, Remove 2 people from Sasuke's side and he gets stomped, doesn't matter which two you remove.

 

[lndra]

Sasuke is a fodder, and I'm one of his fans so don't take it personally.

Yall just hype him too much because of WHO he is, and not what HE has done.

i'm not saying Naruto is better but at least he can fight without looking retarded at the end.

It's like "I lost ..but I'll get another power-up and beat your ass later!" type of deal.

 

[Vapid]

No, but he is the only character to have years of character development flushed down the shitter in one chapter.

 

[UzumakiWade]

Sasuke is a fodder, and I'm one of his fans so don't take it personally.

Yall just hype him too much because of WHO he is, and not what HE has done.

Thank you! I mean the fodder thing is a little underrated, i don't believe he is completely weak but Sasuke fans overhype him too much, they need to realize Sasuke is not some sort of God or anything.

 

[lndra]

Thank you! I mean the fodder thing is a little underrated, i don't believe he is completely weak but Sasuke fans overhype him too much, they need to realize Sasuke is not some sort of God or anything.

Well I say he is a fodder because everytime he had something, they increased him to a completely new level. Like he is an Uchiha, why would he need anything but his Sharingan? I mean look at Itachi before that Totsuka blade hype, and now no one can take him seriously because why would a real Uchiha such as Itachi need those weapons?

Sasuke on the other hand is just a tactical genius, but he still wasn't capable to win a fight on his own, and their fans like to say he is the Solo King because of plot-given hack powers. Mhm whatever.

 

[shelke]

Right you are, man.

Kaguya fodderized Sasuke like 5x in one fight, and his best return was a group attack Lol

Because Sasuke doesn't posses Bijuu chakra and didn't use Sage's Senjutsu against her. If we are being picking and talking about facts, of course.

Because it wasn't solo:
He coudn't beat Gaara when he was transformed into Shukaku
He couldn't beat Bee 1vs1 ( Bee could solo him twice if not Taka)
He couldn't beat Madara 1vs1 (need Naruto to deal with Limbo clones)

Continuing on to throw this garbage out of your hindquarters must have resulted in those rep bars, as you sound or seem, none too bright.

- Sasuke was paralyzed against Gaara by his own CS. In fact, he hit Gaara with his Chidori in his partially transformed state and he started for the forset before he realized that somehow Sasuke got paralyzed. Also, Gaara was toast without One-tails intervention. He was crying like a harlot in heat and had to be literally carried away by his siblings. He lost the battle.

- Bee was beaten. He himself admits that he thought of the plan on the fly, and that Sasuke was the 'strongest opponent he had ever faced'. Both manga facts. He got lucky that Karin tripped.

- He clove Madara clean in half, and landed hit both times. It was Naruto whose attacks Madara's blocked, twice.

How is anyone taking you seriously ... is beyond me. The stupidity of it all.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

If not Taka Sasuke even have no chance to awaken MS and solo glance... So 1 vs 1 Sasuke would be dead.

You have cat to be kitten me right meow.

What deos Taka have to do with MS? Sasuke can use Genjutsu on his own,without help.In a true one on one,he doesn't need to rely on help to use it.Are you under the impression that Sasuke started Solo Glancing with the MS? He's been doing it since the beginning of part 2 with tomoes.

1)-Sai

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2)-Manda

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3)-C

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Those 3 were completely Solo'd by Solo Glance.

Sasuke also caught others with his glance with the Sharingan
1)- Naruto

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And ofcourse we know he went into his subconscious.

2)-Orochimaru

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Glance - Flashback jutsu

3)-Kabuto

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4)-Deidara

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[shelke]

Was it strongest Gaara? No



I doubt that Sasuke had even a one chance to use solo glance if not Taka

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God, you are the king of fools here. Look at those damn scans again. Sasuke had no idea Bee had Lightening element. He deflected his sword and then created an opening through Raiton. Before that - despite being heavily injured and not any where near 100% - Sasuke fought on par with Bee. Jugo and Sasuke confirm it.

Even then, Sasuke was lightening fast to pass Chidori through his body to avoid the blades hitting his vitals. Is this guy the knew queen in town? What a fool!

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Do you understand the term and concept of the word 'solo'?
Slicing Madara in half or teleporting his sword into him does not mean that he soloed madara, or redeemed himself. Soloing someone means taking them out to the point they're unable to continue. To be frank, madara didn't give two shits about what sauce or nachos did to him. He's an immortal who's able to regenerate regardless of the magnitude of the attack. What kind of an adult would fight seriously against a child? All madara did was stab, not slice, just stab sasky and sauce was coughing up blood like aids victim itachi.
Speaking of itachi, sasky didn't redeem himself then. Lol if anything that poor fodder made himself look even bad. Hunting down his sick, already dying brother, just to kill him. Poor sauce got negged so bad and so fast in a battle of genjutsu's, never mind the actual combat. To be honest, Itachi on his death bed would easily killed sasky. Only plot saved your weak fav from some real ass whooping. Part 2 is shit, just like your character is at everything.
Stay mad.
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Did i say Sasuke solo'd Madara? No,i only said he Redeemed himself by landing the same hit on Madara. How was hunting down the guy who murdered your family make Sasuke look bad? Sasuke didn't know he was sick,nor did that matter considering he murdered their whole family so is Sasuke suppoused to wait until he's in full condition to fight him?

"Just to kill him. Poor sauce got negged so bad and so fast in a battle of genjutsu's, never mind the actual combat."

Just to kill him? Was that a bad thing? You seem to be trying to make it seem that way.I guess murdering their whole family isn't a good enough reason to want to kill him.Also,Sasuke broke out of Itachi's Tsukuyomi.

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Lol,the plot excuse.The reason Sasuke didn't die is because Itachi didn't want to kill him.Itachi was far above Sasuke at the time,granted,he was a few years older than him.Even so Sasuke is one of the best Shinobi in the world,him not being as great as Itachi didn't mean he was weak overall.Weak compared to Itachi,yes,but to the world? No.

"Part 2 is shit, just like your character is at everything.
Stay mad."

Part 2 is great and so is Sasuke,your hate can't changed that,and funny how you act like i'm mad when you're the one who is cussing ans hating while i'm not. You're proving to be the one who's actually mad.

If this site made me upset,then i wouldn't be here.I'm here cause i enjoy this site.Anyway,try not to win debates by imagining the person is mad,while constantly showing anger yourself.It's laughable.