Can a perfect jinchuriki break/avoid Tsukuyomi?

[shelke]

So you again canʻt answer a simple question because you know that:
1) it will out you for your radical position

and

2) Iʻll use it against you to evaluate your favorite characters based on their bottom of the barrel speed feats


So please, if your view is so biased that it forces you to dodge simple questions like what iʻve postulated, then donʻt post, just post your views in the naruto fanfiction section.

Already answered it in a post above. I think you need to eat some dry-fruits to make post-processing easier. Anyhow, this is my last post you, you clearly are a guy who is acting as if I pinched his nipple with a cloth clipper.

 

[lanakui8]

Already answered it in a post above. I think you need to eat some dry-fruits to make post-processing easier. Anyhow, this is my last post you, you clearly are a guy who's is acting as if I pinched his nipple with a cloth clipper.

Please show me where you answered it in the post above.

and yes, reading your posts are very painful and urksome to me because I really value truthful arguments, and when people come in here just vommiting all the lies and double standards they can come up with in order to push their agenda itʻs taking a dump on truth.

And herd mentality results in more people thinking itʻs okay to lie and crap because this guyʻs doing it, or itʻs okay to believe in this crap because this guy believes in it regardless of how supported or unsupported those beliefs are and what the consequences of the logic you have to utilize in order for those beliefs to be held true are.

Then thereʻs the antagonistic mentality where the sauske fans see the naruto fans lieing and so they feel they have to lie as well in order to counter that, or vice versa. then it ends up with this downward spiral of everyone trying to one-up each other on the stupidity meter. It never ends well, and the people who recognize this are always trying to clean up this mess.

 

[shelke]

Please show me where you answered it in the post above.

and yes, reading your posts are very painful and urksome to me because I really value truthful arguments, and when people come in here just vommiting all the lies and double standards they can come up with in order to push their agenda itʻs taking a dump on truth.

And herd mentality results in more people thinking itʻs okay to lie and crap because this guyʻs doing it, or itʻs okay to believe in this crap because this guy believes in it regardless of how supported or unsupported those beliefs are and what the consequences of the logic you have to utilize in order for those beliefs to be held true are.

Then thereʻs the antagonistic mentality where the sauske fans see the naruto fans lieing and so they feel they have to lie as well in order to counter that, or vice versa. then it ends up with this downward spiral of everyone trying to one-up each other on the stupidity meter. It never ends well, and the people who recognize this are always trying to clean up this mess.

I applaud your crusade to spread Truth on Naruto forum and the tireless search for it via Naruto feats. Of all the places, you chose such an apt forum to discuss the sensitivities of Truth versus Lies and the reality of it all against the backdrop of the gospel that is Naruto, and his deified feats.

I just ... can't ... this guy.

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[TrollingSage]

Wasn't Yagura - a perfect Jin - controlled by a genjutus? So let's see, not only that, even perfect Jins are susceptible to powerful genjutsus. The requirements to break Tsukuyomi are 1) Sharingan 2) Related by blood. Some 'resistance' can be shown via sharingan, if the user - as Kakashi - doesn't possess Uchiha Blood, but they won't be able to break it and thus, can be killed. Itachi simply chose not to.

Then we have Naruto outright saying that if a Jin is hit with Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi, he'll be done for. There you have it folks. Plenty of evidences. So no, they can't.

Yagura was never outright stated to be a perfect jin. Infact hwen he was revived as an edo, there was no indication he was on friendly terms with his biju. When the tailed beasts were deliberating on whether to trust Naruto or not, I didnt see the sanbi coming to Yagura's defence like the 8 tails did with Bee.
Having control of a tailed beast could mean he could use a significant portion of the biju's chakra without losing control like KM Naruto. Incidentally, Shikaku said Naruto had gained control of the fox when he saw his KCM.

 

[shelke]

Yagura was never outright stated to be a perfect jin. Infact hwen he was revived as an edo, there was no indication he was on friendly terms with his biju. When the tailed beasts were deliberating on whether to trust Naruto or not, I didnt see the sanbi coming to Yagura's defence like the 8 tails did with Bee.
Having control of a tailed beast could mean he could use a significant portion of the biju's chakra without losing control like KM Naruto. Incidentally, Shikaku said Naruto had gained control of the fox when he saw his KCM.

Read the chapter of the Kage meeting.

 

[lanakui8]

I applaud your crusade to spread Truth on Naruto forum and the tireless search for it via Naruto feats. Of all the places, you chose such an apt forum to discuss the sensitivities of Truth versus Lies and the reality of it all against the backdrop of the gospel that is Naruto, and his deified feats.

I donʻt evaluate the manga via just feats. Itʻs statements, hype and portrayal as well. the manga simply doesnʻt have enough pages to give us all the information we need to make a purely feat-based argument.

And I donʻt think iʻm asking much, Iʻm not asking you to invest a ton of time trying to find the absolute truth of the manga, Iʻm simply asking that you at least try to be truthful, as in when you post something in a thread, try to evaluate it objectively, or just ask yourself, "what if i evaluated this other character by the same standard?, what would I have to also believe is true?"

Finally, if you think about it, does this manga really mean anything? Does naruto/sasuke/ any character having X or Y feat or being stronger than another have any impact on reality or important things in life? I donʻt think so. However, if people are so emotionally invested in something thatʻs so meaningless that they distort truth so much, just imagine how much more theyʻd distort the truth when it comes to something that actually is important?

 

[SayWhat21]

dam so many butt hurt here itachi is dead so it doesn't matter......

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[MickNerks]

Even if Naruto fell into Tsukuyomi, he would still beat itachi. Kurama has the ability to switch control with naruto, so if naruto gets caught in it, kurama could simply take control of his body and continue to fight until naruto recovered.

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[xxSAGExx]

Firstly, I don't see how the title is misleading

OT: What about the 3-4 seconds it took Hachibi to break B out of Sasuke's low-tier genjutsu? Wouldn't it be too late for someone like current Naruto?

That was because there were no time manipulation, the 8 tails would do the same thing that fast for Tsukuyomi. Bijuus and their host are connected mentally, that's who they can talk to each other telepathically even in battles. The Jinchuuriki can even go to where the Bijuu is in their mind so what if they go there or bring their Bijuu to them and break out right there?

The manga has made the already it clear on what the conditions must be in order to break Tsukuyomi. And even if they could, it's over before they can do so.

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All Itachi said was that Tsukuyomi was unbeatable which he later retracts by saying all jutsus have weaknesses. Kakashi tried to fight him with the Sharingan but he's not a true Uchiha which Itachi says pages before the scan you posted. Oh and Naruto wasn't a perfect Jinchuuriki when he fought Itachi nor have it showed that he had any knowledge about the Bijuu breaking him out at that time.

Tsukuyomi > Perfect Jin

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......Except Bee wasn't a perfect Jinchuuriki at that time since the 8 tails was extracted. He have some chakra in him that kept him alive but no 8 tails mind was shown to be in him and it even shows the 8 tails say he will go back to Bee after they returned so don't know how you missed that.

Say current Naruto had to fight Itachi again: If Naruto was Shunshin blitzed by Itachi and Tsukuyomi'd, would he be neg-diffed or would he be able to break Tsukuyomi in like... 2-3 seconds?

Well for 1, Itachi wouldn't shunshin to Naruto before Naruto can react since he's faster than Itachi and he'll use Shadow clones which takes away the Tsukuyomi worry since Itachi max with MS jutsus is 4. But yes he can break it as some people already said.

Fallacies! All fallacies!

Not only did B fall to the ground after being genjutsu'd by Sasuke (1-2 seconds), but Sasuke was also able to put his hand over his eye (another second, at the minimum):

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In a nutshell: It takes, at the minimum, 2-3 seconds for a perfect jin's biju to break a genjutsu for them, and as Féar showed you all, Tsukuyomi is "instant".

Exactly, Sasuke's genjutsu didn't change Bee's perception of time so the 8 tails wasn't changed either but if Bee's is changed then so is the 8 Tails. Their mind and chakra are connected afterall. Genjutsu affects the victims mind but a Perfect Jin have 2 minds that are connected and both minds have shown to communicate to each other and even pull the other to them/go to them when they want.

 

[Vapid]

Even if Naruto fell into Tsukuyomi, he would still beat itachi. Kurama has the ability to switch control with naruto, so if naruto gets caught in it, kurama could simply take control of his body and continue to fight until naruto recovered.

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His body would be exhausted, fatigued and borderline useless.

(Note Kakashi)

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That was because there were no time manipulation, the 8 tails would do the same thing that fast for Tsukuyomi. Bijuus and their host are connected mentally, that's who they can talk to each other telepathically even in battles. The Jinchuuriki can even go to where the Bijuu is in their mind so what if they go there or bring their Bijuu to them and break out right there?

That mental connection would be completely destroyed if B was Tsukuyomi'd (which, in base, lasts 72 hours mentally and is instant in reality). It would be like trying to communicate with a retard (for Hachibi).

Well for 1, Itachi wouldn't shunshin to Naruto before Naruto can react since he's faster than Itachi and he'll use Shadow clones which takes away the Tsukuyomi worry since Itachi max with MS jutsus is 4. But yes he can break it as some people already said.

Irrelevant.

Exactly, Sasuke's genjutsu didn't change Bee's perception of time so the 8 tails wasn't changed either but if Bee's is changed then so is the 8 Tails. Their mind and chakra are connected afterall. Genjutsu affects the victims mind but a Perfect Jin have 2 minds that are connected and both minds have shown to communicate to each other and even pull the other to them/go to them when they want.

Refer to my second response in this post.

 

[Joker]

Please explain to me in what way aside from duration what would lead you to believe a Perfect Jin can break Itachi's but not I.T.

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This post is sickening. Are you actually comparing Itachi's illusions to the likes of the one that started it all? The wabk is so real.

 

[Sharingan King]

There are multiple scans stating that Tsukuyome is instant.

Itachi states that only a blood relative (Sasuke) can break his Tsukuyome.

MS Sasuke caught Bee in a much weaker genjutsu for 2-3 seconds.

Edo-Itachi caught Bee in a much weaker genjutsu for 1-2 seconds.

Naruto warns Bee to avoid eye contact with Itachi because Tsukuyome will neg diff him.

Yagura was put under genjutsu for years.

Conclusion: Itachi can neg perfect jinchurikis with Tsukuyome (as long as he establishes eye contact).

 

[xxSAGExx]

His body would be exhausted, fatigued and borderline useless.

(Note Kakashi)

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That mental connection would be completely destroyed if B was Tsukuyomi'd (which, in base, lasts 72 hours mentally and is instant in reality). It would be like trying to communicate with a retard (for Hachibi).


Irrelevant.


Refer to my second response in this post.

For your response to MickNerds, Naruto's body has already been to the point where he should drop dead but Kurama's chakra restores his stamina which allowed him to fight in the war for like 4-5 days. Before the war Naruto was in intense training where he was injured and took no breaks as he told Bee he doesn't have time to sweat the small stuff (replying to Bee suggesting they take a break after Naruto's hands were burnt). Naruto then jumps into the war where he made 12 clones that split his power 1/13th and each clone fought on different battlefields and the main one we see was the clone that fought Muu, Raikage, and Madara with help and he exhausted himself completely before dispersing. Naruto feels his clones exhaustion when they disperse which is a reason it's forbidden jutsu, it causes mental strain on Naruto during his element training where he passed out.

Naruto was completely exhausted before Kurama decided to help and have him access to all of his chakra that replenished Naruto's body. Also in Tsukuyomi, Naruto can activate modes and fight back as Sasuke did with CM and he can use his chakra arms to break any restrains he might be in and he can make chakra hands from his back or from his stomach as he shown. Naruto has shown to fight for more than 3 days while Itachi doesn't have the stamina or physical capability so Naruto would last long enough to break out.

There's no proof or small indication that a genjutsu can break the mental connection since we already see Bee and the 8 tails talk or react in genjutsus which is in the mind all the small. Tsukuyomi only differences is that it affects the victims perception of time as well but this certain victim have a Bijuu inside him. Genjutsu works by Itachi putting his chakra into his victims brain to control the senses the genjutsu targets but Jinchuurikis chakra are connected to their Bijuus which allows for that connection to be clear.

Naruto was talking to all of the Bijuus and Jinchuurikis deep in a mental plane that they said "Madara" (Obito) couldn't even reach and they had whole convos while in reality Naruto was in BM with his tails grabbing the chakra rods in the Bijuus/Jinchuurikis bodies and I highly doubt Naruto just stood their with his chakra arms connected to the chakra rods when Obito was right there and could have easily done something about it.

How is it irrelevant when you said Itachi would do something to someone faster than him then use Tsukuyomi which takes time since Itachi always have to first turn on his MS, close his eye to build up the chakra, then make eye contact. That's like saying Hebi Sasuje Shunshin to Itachi and cut off his head. Both scenarios aren't likely. If you said Itachi used a clone feint then katon jutsu to block his movements from Naruto's sight then that would be a bit more believable but then again Naruto would still sense him and react accordingly.

 

[ShiroT]

Firstly, I don't see how the title is misleading

OT: What about the 3-4 seconds it took Hachibi to break B out of Sasuke's low-tier genjutsu? Wouldn't it be too late for someone like current Naruto?

kakashi took it and didnt pass out. naruto (if he didnt break out within a second) would survive and could continue fighting

 

[Vapid]

For your response to MickNerds, Naruto's body has already been to the point where he should drop dead but Kurama's chakra restores his stamina which allowed him to fight in the war for like 4-5 days. Before the war Naruto was in intense training where he was injured and took no breaks as he told Bee he doesn't have time to sweat the small stuff (replying to Bee suggesting they take a break after Naruto's hands were burnt). Naruto then jumps into the war where he made 12 clones that split his power 1/13th and each clone fought on different battlefields and the main one we see was the clone that fought Muu, Raikage, and Madara with help and he exhausted himself completely before dispersing. Naruto feels his clones exhaustion when they disperse which is a reason it's forbidden jutsu, it causes mental strain on Naruto during his element training where he passed out.

I knew you would post this. This is irrelevant; if Naruto is that fatigued and mentally wrecked, it means that he wasn't able to break out of Tsukuyomi. Anything that happens after that is pointless in this topic.

Naruto was completely exhausted before Kurama decided to help and have him access to all of his chakra that replenished Naruto's body. Also in Tsukuyomi, Naruto can activate modes and fight back as Sasuke did with CM and he can use his chakra arms to break any restrains he might be in and he can make chakra hands from his back or from his stomach as he shown. Naruto has shown to fight for more than 3 days while Itachi doesn't have the stamina or physical capability so Naruto would last long enough to break out.

No, no he can't. Nothing in the manga indicates that he can do that against a technique that has been clearly stated as being reversible/avoidable only by having the same blood/eyes as its user.[

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There's no proof or small indication that a genjutsu can break the mental connection since we already see Bee and the 8 tails talk or react in genjutsus which is in the mind all the small. Tsukuyomi only differences is that it affects the victims perception of time as well but this certain victim have a Bijuu inside him. Genjutsu works by Itachi putting his chakra into his victims brain to control the senses the genjutsu targets but Jinchuurikis chakra are connected to their Bijuus which allows for that connection to be clear.

That connection is disrupted, or rather flat out destroyed, if the user is in a comatose state.

Naruto was talking to all of the Bijuus and Jinchuurikis deep in a mental plane that they said "Madara" (Obito) couldn't even reach and they had whole convos while in reality Naruto was in BM with his tails grabbing the chakra rods in the Bijuus/Jinchuurikis bodies and I highly doubt Naruto just stood their with his chakra arms connected to the chakra rods when Obito was right there and could have easily done something about it.

I'm not seeing the relevance in this.

How is it irrelevant when you said Itachi would do something to someone faster than him then use Tsukuyomi which takes time since Itachi always have to first turn on his MS, close his eye to build up the chakra, then make eye contact. That's like saying Hebi Sasuje Shunshin to Itachi and cut off his head. Both scenarios aren't likely. If you said Itachi used a clone feint then katon jutsu to block his movements from Naruto's sight then that would be a bit more believable but then again Naruto would still sense him and react accordingly.

Becuase the premise of this thread is whether or not a perfect jinchuriki can break/avoid (or rather thwart) Tsukuyomi, plain and simple. The whole Shunshin blitz thing was used only to initiate Tsukuyomi.

kakashi took it and didnt pass out. naruto (if he didnt break out within a second) would survive and could continue fighting

That means that he wasn't able to break it then.

On top of that, Naruto sucks balls at genjutsu and had an extremely difficult time dealing with Ephemeral -- a genjutsu that uses only a finger, no eye contact and no MS; i.e., a low-tier, but very OP genjutsu.

 

[xxSAGExx]

There are multiple scans stating that Tsukuyome is instant.

Itachi states that only a blood relative (Sasuke) can break his Tsukuyome.

MS Sasuke caught Bee in a much weaker genjutsu for 2-3 seconds.

Edo-Itachi caught Bee in a much weaker genjutsu for 1-2 seconds.

Naruto warns Bee to avoid eye contact with Itachi because Tsukuyome will neg diff him.

Yagura was put under genjutsu for years.

Conclusion: Itachi can neg perfect jinchurikis with Tsukuyome (as long as he establishes eye contact).

Instant in real time, not in the genjutsu. A Perfect Jin have 2 minds connected and their chakra are connected. Itachi have to have his chakra go to his victims brain to affect their senses such as time perception but as I already said, Perfect Jins are connected in mind and chakra so the Bijuu would be in the same time perception as their host.

He said only someone with his blood could defeat him, only a true Uchiha. He said that to Kakashi who was trying to use the Sharingan to fight him so all he said was Kakashi can't fight him as a true Uchiha could. Genjutsus all share the same weaknesses, they all work the same (their chakra affecting the victims senses via brain).

Real time gets real time results. In Tsukuyomi, Bee would be snapped out in the same time but in Tsukuyomi time so it would still be instant in real time. (For both Sasuke and Edo Itachi comment)

Naruto wasn't a perfect Jin at that time nor have Bee been shown telling Naruto that the Bijuu can snapped them out of genjutsus.

Do you know how? Do you know if Yagura was even a perfect Jin at that point or if he even had the Bijuu in him? All we know is that Obito controlled him for a time but if Yagaura had the 3 tails in him then why didn't Obito have it? Why did he have to go after it with Deidara many years later? If you can't answer those questions then don't use examples that we have no info on.

Your conclusion is wrong since your points are wrong. Sure I don't have manga scans to show my responses but using what we know about Jinchuurikis and genjutsus, my replies hold more probability of being right then yours. Plus Itachi had no knowledge of perfect Jins in part 1 and Kishi had Bee say genjutsus don't work on Perfect Jins in the current story while Tsukuyomi being known by a good amount if people. Cloud ninjas such as Shi shown to know what MS is and Itachi's skills with Amaterasu to compare it to Sasuke's plus Jiraiya knew about Tsukuyomi in part 1 and he spread word about Akatsuki plus they have the bingo book which list known info on criminals which Itachi was in.

 

[xxSAGExx]

There are multiple scans stating that Tsukuyome is instant.

Itachi states that only a blood relative (Sasuke) can break his Tsukuyome.

MS Sasuke caught Bee in a much weaker genjutsu for 2-3 seconds.

Edo-Itachi caught Bee in a much weaker genjutsu for 1-2 seconds.

Naruto warns Bee to avoid eye contact with Itachi because Tsukuyome will neg diff him.

Yagura was put under genjutsu for years.

Conclusion: Itachi can neg perfect jinchurikis with Tsukuyome (as long as he establishes eye contact).

Instant in real time, not in the genjutsu. A Perfect Jin have 2 minds connected and their chakra are connected. Itachi have to have his chakra go to his victims brain to affect their senses such as time perception but as I already said, Perfect Jins are connected in mind and chakra so the Bijuu would be in the same time perception as their host.

He said only someone with his blood could defeat him, only a true Uchiha. He said that to Kakashi who was trying to use the Sharingan to fight him so all he said was Kakashi can't fight him as a true Uchiha could. Genjutsus all share the same weaknesses, they all work the same (their chakra affecting the victims senses via brain).

Real time gets real time results. In Tsukuyomi, Bee would be snapped out in the same time but in Tsukuyomi time so it would still be instant in real time. (For both Sasuke and Edo Itachi comment)

Naruto wasn't a perfect Jin at that time nor have Bee been shown telling Naruto that the Bijuu can snapped them out of genjutsus.

Do you know how? Do you know if Yagura was even a perfect Jin at that point or if he even had the Bijuu in him? All we know is that Obito controlled him for a time but if Yagaura had the 3 tails in him then why didn't Obito have it? Why did he have to go after it with Deidara many years later? If you can't answer those questions then don't use examples that we have no info on.

Your conclusion is wrong since your points are wrong. Sure I don't have manga scans to show my responses but using what we know about Jinchuurikis and genjutsus, my replies hold more probability of being right then yours. Plus Itachi had no knowledge of perfect Jins in part 1 and Kishi had Bee say genjutsus don't work on Perfect Jins in the current story while Tsukuyomi being known by a good amount if people. Cloud ninjas such as Shi shown to know what MS is and Itachi's skills with Amaterasu to compare it to Sasuke's plus Jiraiya knew about Tsukuyomi in part 1 and he spread word about Akatsuki plus they have the bingo book which list known info on criminals which Itachi was in.

 

[Vapid]

Instant in real time, not in the genjutsu. A Perfect Jin have 2 minds connected and their chakra are connected. Itachi have to have his chakra go to his victims brain to affect their senses such as time perception but as I already said, Perfect Jins are connected in mind and chakra so the Bijuu would be in the same time perception as their host.

He said only someone with his blood could defeat him, only a true Uchiha. He said that to Kakashi who was trying to use the Sharingan to fight him so all he said was Kakashi can't fight him as a true Uchiha could. Genjutsus all share the same weaknesses, they all work the same (their chakra affecting the victims senses via brain).

Real time gets real time results. In Tsukuyomi, Bee would be snapped out in the same time but in Tsukuyomi time so it would still be instant in real time. (For both Sasuke and Edo Itachi comment)

Naruto wasn't a perfect Jin at that time nor have Bee been shown telling Naruto that the Bijuu can snapped them out of genjutsus.

Do you know how? Do you know if Yagura was even a perfect Jin at that point or if he even had the Bijuu in him? All we know is that Obito controlled him for a time but if Yagaura had the 3 tails in him then why didn't Obito have it? Why did he have to go after it with Deidara many years later? If you can't answer those questions then don't use examples that we have no info on.

Your conclusion is wrong since your points are wrong. Sure I don't have manga scans to show my responses but using what we know about Jinchuurikis and genjutsus, my replies hold more probability of being right then yours. Plus Itachi had no knowledge of perfect Jins in part 1 and Kishi had Bee say genjutsus don't work on Perfect Jins in the current story while Tsukuyomi being known by a good amount if people. Cloud ninjas such as Shi shown to know what MS is and Itachi's skills with Amaterasu to compare it to Sasuke's plus Jiraiya knew about Tsukuyomi in part 1 and he spread word about Akatsuki plus they have the bingo book which list known info on criminals which Itachi was in.

You're already out of bounds. Now you're treading fanfic.

 

[ShiroT]

Instant in real time, not in the genjutsu. A Perfect Jin have 2 minds connected and their chakra are connected. Itachi have to have his chakra go to his victims brain to affect their senses such as time perception but as I already said, Perfect Jins are connected in mind and chakra so the Bijuu would be in the same time perception as their host.

He said only someone with his blood could defeat him, only a true Uchiha. He said that to Kakashi who was trying to use the Sharingan to fight him so all he said was Kakashi can't fight him as a true Uchiha could. Genjutsus all share the same weaknesses, they all work the same (their chakra affecting the victims senses via brain).

Real time gets real time results. In Tsukuyomi, Bee would be snapped out in the same time but in Tsukuyomi time so it would still be instant in real time. (For both Sasuke and Edo Itachi comment)

Naruto wasn't a perfect Jin at that time nor have Bee been shown telling Naruto that the Bijuu can snapped them out of genjutsus.

Do you know how? Do you know if Yagura was even a perfect Jin at that point or if he even had the Bijuu in him? All we know is that Obito controlled him for a time but if Yagaura had the 3 tails in him then why didn't Obito have it? Why did he have to go after it with Deidara many years later? If you can't answer those questions then don't use examples that we have no info on.

Your conclusion is wrong since your points are wrong. Sure I don't have manga scans to show my responses but using what we know about Jinchuurikis and genjutsus, my replies hold more probability of being right then yours. Plus Itachi had no knowledge of perfect Jins in part 1 and Kishi had Bee say genjutsus don't work on Perfect Jins in the current story while Tsukuyomi being known by a good amount if people. Cloud ninjas such as Shi shown to know what MS is and Itachi's skills with Amaterasu to compare it to Sasuke's plus Jiraiya knew about Tsukuyomi in part 1 and he spread word about Akatsuki plus they have the bingo book which list known info on criminals which Itachi was in.

no. a 3T sharingan is enough to subdue a tailed beast. a tailed beast (as shown several times) has no real defense to sharingan genjutsu. if there minds are linked, then 8 tails wouldnt have been able to break bee out because he would be under the same genjutsu, which again tailed beasts have yet to break out on there on. so this would show that just because a host is put under one doesnt mean his beast is.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

Anyone can avoid Tsukiyomi. Hell, there was a period in my life where I wouldn't even make eye contact with people during conversation, I was told that this was "rude."

Those with higher mental fortitudes have shown to be able to resist or even break Tsukiyomi. This is logical, since Tsukiyomi's function is to cause mental stress and break down one's resolve.