Current Kakashi (without Sharingan) vs Kisame (without samehada)

[Inert Brian]

If you think Sharingan-less Kakashi beats Kisame, then you can keep thinking that, not like they'll ever fight anyway.


Kisame got demolished by v1 Killer Bee's lariat, and he was still laughing and talking, despite his rib cage showing. I should mention that when that happened to Taka Sasuke, he was on the verge of death.

But Raikiri and clone feints 1 shots him right?

Kisame was hiding, and starving in Samehada for weeks. He still had enough man power to force Gai to use 7 gates. So you think Base Kakashi can beat Kisame?

 

[Migster257]

Kisame wins, but it isn't low diff or mid diff like these ignorants claim. Kisame wins high diff.

 

[Inert Brian]

Kisame wins, but it isn't low diff or mid diff like these ignorants claim. Kisame wins high diff.

Kisame forced Gai in to 7 gates, while in a weakened state and did not have Samehada.

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Why don't you give reasoning before you talk crap buddy.

Or explain how Kakashi is going to push this up to high difficulty.

 

[Migster257]

Kisame forced Gai in to 7 gates, while in a weakened state and did not have Samehada.

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Why don't you give reasoning before you talk crap buddy.

Or explain how Kakashi is going to push this up to high difficulty.

So this is implying what exactly? MS Kakashi > 7G Gai.
1G Sharinganless Kakashi = 6G Gai.
Of course, Sharinganless Kakashi is featless, so this entire argument is pointless.

 

[ATD]

GSB can overwhelm any of Kakashi's attacks and get stronger,or Kisame can trap him in a Water Dome and unleash a few sharks inside.

how will he catch him?, he is faster than kisame, can use hiding like a mole to dodge GSB, the location is made up alf water and half earth, there are parts where he can go underground, how will every suiton jutsu of kisame will damaging him when he uses hiding like mole ??

 

[ATD]

OP doesn't know who kisame is

One large suiton murders kakashi, he could only match zabuza with sharingan and zabuza is fodder compared to kisame

Zabuza uses hidden mist and his silent killing in combination, kakashi was put at an disatvantage with that, you cant compare zabuza and kisame, their fighting style is very different.
This is kisame without samehada, how is he going to win when every attack is counterd with a hiding like a mole?

 

[ATD]

If you think Sharingan-less Kakashi beats Kisame, then you can keep thinking that, not like they'll ever fight anyway.


Kisame got demolished by v1 Killer Bee's lariat, and he was still laughing and talking, despite his rib cage showing. I should mention that when that happened to Taka Sasuke, he was on the verge of death.

But Raikiri and clone feints 1 shots him right?

Kisame was hiding, and starving in Samehada for weeks. He still had enough man power to force Gai to use 7 gates. So you think Base Kakashi can beat Kisame?

Still igonring my arguements ??
i dont interest me whether kisame was still talking =D thats so stupid, a beast runner will catch kisame, paralyze him and after that kakashi can cut his head off with a raiton infused kunai.
tell me a counter to hiding like a mole ?
Tell me a counter against beast runner ?
Give me a reason why kisame wont get fooled by a raiton clone ?

it doesnt one shot him, but it gives kakashi an opening to cut kisames head off, pierce his heart, lungs, stomach any vital organ,
without samehada he wont recover, kisame can keep talking after a final blow, but he will die in any case, especially when is head is cut off.

 

[ATD]

Kisame forced Gai in to 7 gates, while in a weakened state and did not have Samehada.

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Why don't you give reasoning before you talk crap buddy.

Or explain how Kakashi is going to push this up to high difficulty.

That was a ocean okay ?
kisame even said he has the advantage.
and he wasnt weakend he absorbed all of killer bees chakra before he fought guy.
This location wont give him the chance to use that many sharks, the sarks he will sot at kakashi will be dodged with hiding like a mole.
I want to hear how kisame is winning this without samehada and without being near an ocean.
Until now i havent heard adequate argument how kisame is winning.

 

[wael reda]

Kisame wins mid diff

 

[wael reda]

Maybe kakashi can push it to high diff or might can win with some tricks and strategies

 

[TheAncientCenturion]

Might clean this thread up tomorrow. So far, there's not a single argument made for Kakashi worth the time though.

 

[JCW]

Kisame. Easy.. main purpose of it is to take chakra... and transform..kashi wont be able to hang

 

[adeshina365]

Blunt stole one of my old avatars.

 

[Rιver]

dont underestimate a healing jutsu from an uzumaki

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karin freshed him up before his fight with kakashi and sasuke has very much chakra.
Kakashi was not using his sharingan while he blocked sasukes chidori and pushed him back.
i doubt kisame is faster than Kage summit sasuke in base.
Sharingan isnt giving you more foodspeed, it stays the same as without it.

Except that Kakashi can't deactivate his Sharingan.

 

[ATD]

Except that Kakashi can't deactivate his Sharingan.

he used his head band to cover his sharingan, so its the same as deactivating it.

 

[ATD]

Kisame. Easy.. main purpose of it is to take chakra... and transform..kashi wont be able to hang

he can't transform without samehada, kisames skin isn't absorbing a beast runner.

 

[ATD]

Might clean this thread up tomorrow. So far, there's not a single argument made for Kakashi worth the time though.

i hope you will bring good arguments and please consider Kakashi is able to go underground because the location definitely offers parts which are free of water.
Also be aware of kakashis beast runner and his superior speed.
Good luck !

 

[Rιver]

he used his head band to cover his sharingan, so its the same as deactivating it.

No, because Sharingan can see through it.

 

[ATD]

No, because Sharingan can see through it.

sharingan cant see through it, thats why kakashi took of the handband when he fights strong opponents...

 

[Inert Brian]

So Kakashi with 3T managed a win off Zabuza high diff (in the first fight he had to worry about team 7).

But a downgraded Kakashi who's only improvement is better stamina (NOTHING says his Taijutsu improved drastically between the time skip) can suddenly defeat the guy who fodderized Neji, Lee, and Tenten with clones of a 30% clone.

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He tanked a punch to the face point blank by 7G Gai, bit his tongue, and broke Yamato's wood binding. Shall I mention how Yamato's wood binding was able to restrict 4t Naruto's movements?

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So don't give me the "I haven't seen any good arguments for Kisame" nonsense. 30% Kisame destroyed Base Gai, and clones of the 30% clone destroyed Team Gai.

I swear, next you're going to tell me that Base Kakashi can fight on par or better against Base Gai...which is BS. Kakashi needed 3t to keep up. Which is shown through the fact that they were portrayed equal since both had roughly 50 wins against each other.