Current Kakashi (without Sharingan) vs Kisame (without samehada)

[Rιver]

Lacking the sharingan doesn't mean that his food speed slows down, he is at the same speed as before and can do the same tai jutsu moves, because his body allowed it and does it still. He can't predict the moves of the opponent anymore, but in exchange he has more chakra and stamina cause the sharingan is no more draining him.

non war arc base kakashi one eyed catched a chidori with one hand like 3T itachi did with part 1 sasuke.

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kept up with base sasuke in taijutsu

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Kakashi also can stay near the parts which are free of water, he knows that deep water gives kisame the advantage.
He can attack on mid range with lightning dog before kisame is able to preform any large scale suiton and in worst case kakashi can go underground to dodge the suitons of kisame.
I doubt kisames skin is like preta path which can easily absorb any jutsu, lightning dog definitive would leave a mark and paralyzes kisame for a short time.

Funny because Sasuke had just finished fighting and had his Sharingan deactivated at that time, while Kakashi was fully rested and whether or not his Sharingan is cloaked he can still see (chakra) through matter with it that has no chakra. Kakashi had Sharingan and Sasuke was still able to keep up.

 

[Blunt]

Funny because Sasuke had just finished fighting and had his Sharingan deactivated at that time, while Kakashi was fully rested and whether or not his Sharingan is cloaked he can still see (chakra) through matter with it that has no chakra. Kakashi had Sharingan and Sasuke was still able to keep up.

Lol, that's what I'm saying, I'm pretty sure Sasuke went toe to toe with Kakashi after those panels and was severely weakened at that point.

 

[ATD]

Funny because Sasuke had just finished fighting and had his Sharingan deactivated at that time, while Kakashi was fully rested and whether or not his Sharingan is cloaked he can still see (chakra) through matter with it that has no chakra. Kakashi had Sharingan and Sasuke was still able to keep up.

dont underestimate a healing jutsu from an uzumaki

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karin freshed him up before his fight with kakashi and sasuke has very much chakra.
Kakashi was not using his sharingan while he blocked sasukes chidori and pushed him back.
i doubt kisame is faster than Kage summit sasuke in base.
Sharingan isnt giving you more foodspeed, it stays the same as without it.

 

[ATD]

Lol, that's what I'm saying, I'm pretty sure Sasuke went toe to toe with Kakashi after those panels and was severely weakened at that point.

I only wanted to say that base kakashi with only one normal eye was able to catch a chidori and pushed sasuke back, the latter was in base too, but base sasuke is still faster than kisame and war arc kakashi with 2 normal eyes is faster than kisame.
what is kisames best speed feat ?

 

[Inert Brian]

My god you are severely underrating Kisame.

Please read this thread I made highlighting Kisame's accomplishments.

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He wins low diff, 1000 water sharks will do the trick.

 

[VongolaX]

Kisame can beat bijuus in an one on one fight (idk nine tails).

The problems Kakashi had with Zabuza without the sharingan, will pale in comparison of what kisame will do to Kakashi no sharingan.

He'll feed him to the sharks...GG

 

[ATD]

My god you are severely underrating Kisame.

Please read this thread I made highlighting Kisame's accomplishments.

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He wins low diff, 1000 water sharks will do the trick.

kisame said it was a tough battle , he didnt beat roshi low diff like you stated in your threat.

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i never said kisame is not durable, but it doesnt matter against a raikiri kunai user like kakashi, kisame wont survive a blow without samehada.
Samehada gave him the victory over killer bee who used raiton weapons and speed,if it wasnt for samehada, killer bee had beat him in the first few seconds of the match

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Im also aware of that kisame is hella strong, but that wont help him against kakashis fast movement speed combined wit a ligtning kunai ( even without sharingan he is still as fast as before)

The location wont allow him to use that many sharks, because they arent fighting on top of an ocean.
There will be parts where kakashi can go underground to dodge kisames largescal water jutsus like GSB or his many feeding sharks.

how is kisame dodging raiton beast runner without samehada ?

 

[ATD]

Kisame can beat bijuus in an one on one fight (idk nine tails).

The problems Kakashi had with Zabuza without the sharingan, will pale in comparison of what kisame will do to Kakashi no sharingan.

He'll feed him to the sharks...GG

Kisame only won against the bijus he fought due to samehada.
kisame with samehada would beat current kakashi low diff, no discussion.
But i restricted samehada so current kakashi has a beatable opponent in this matchup

Samehada is at least as haxxed as 3TSharingan, maybe even more !

 

[Inert Brian]

Kisame only won against the bijus he fought due to samehada.
kisame with samehada would beat current kakashi low diff, no discussion.
But i restricted samehada so current kakashi has a beatable opponent in this matchup

Samehada is at least as haxxed as 3TSharingan, maybe even more !

You do understand Kisame only helps him heal and absorb chakra right?

Kisame's fire power >>>> Kakashi's.

He's called the tailess tailed beast for a reason. Anyway, it took Gai 7 gates to stop a weakened Kisame's 1000 sharks. Yet Base Kakashi is beating him with a simple raikiri lmao.

 

[ATD]

You do understand Kisame only helps him heal and absorb chakra right?

Kisame's fire power >>>> Kakashi's.

He's called the tailess tailed beast for a reason. Anyway, it took Gai 7 gates to stop a weakened Kisame's 1000 sharks. Yet Base Kakashi is beating him with a simple raikiri lmao.

why you are ignoring my reply to you ?

Kisame was able to heal himself, use samehada as a preta path shield, was able to merge with it, suck persons dry by only touching.
But that isnt much of an advantage (sarcasm)
in close combat kisame has no chance of winning if kakashi infuses his kunai wit raiton.
If kisame shots longe range jutsus at kakashi, the latter can dodge it with hiding like a mole.
Tell me why a dodge with underground tunnel isnt working ?
Kisame was freshed up before is figt with guy

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again whats kisames counter to beast runner wich is very fast and could even dodge sharks by himself ?

 

[Draphsin]

You even gave kisame a water source? Stomp match, samehada isn't even needed.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Kisame would win mid difficulty,with Samehada any jutsu Kakashi throws at him would just be a chakra meal.

 

[Benjamin King]

Kakashi low diff.

 

[ATD]

You even gave kisame a water source? Stomp match, samehada isn't even needed.

it doesnt matter kisame would have summoned a source in any case
nobody is able to counter my raiton beast runner argument, how is kisame dodging it ?

 

[ATD]

Kisame would win mid difficulty,with Samehada any jutsu Kakashi throws at him would just be a chakra meal.

samehada is restricted even in the title

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

samehada is restricted even in the title

Kisame still wins mid diff however.

 

[ATD]

Kisame still wins mid diff however.

until now no one was able to bring up proper way of how kisame wins without samehada

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

until now no one was able to bring up proper way of how kisame wins without samehada

GSB can overwhelm any of Kakashi's attacks and get stronger,or Kisame can trap him in a Water Dome and unleash a few sharks inside.

 

[Selan]

Kakashi can win by outsmarting and tricking with a RKB or Kage Bunshin feint followed by Raikiri blitz from behind, or freeing Kisame with Raiju Hashiri, but the Daikodan is a big problem.

 

[Eternal Sage]

OP doesn't know who kisame is

One large suiton murders kakashi, he could only match zabuza with sharingan and zabuza is fodder compared to kisame