[Discussion] Why Sasuke's way is wrong.

[Naruto X Hunter]

You don't know what he wants but it seems as if you're agreeing.

Did i say that what he wants to do is right? No.I'm simply not saying it's wrong like you are - since we don't know yet.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

So experiencing the worst the shinobi world has to offer, and having the power to change it so they never happen again doesn't qualify you to change these problems?


Sasuke's crimes were small though. You can't honestly be comparing them to the Kages. I'm just explaining Sasuke's perspective to you.

Ohhh what did the kage do that was that awful ?
Let me remind you of those little stuff that sasuke did Lol

Leave his village

Join the village worst enemy that killed the 3th hokage
Joined a terrorist organization who are the world worst enemies
Attacked an innocent jinchuriki to do a job for akatsuki
Killed innocent samurai that were only doing their work to protect the kage
Attacking the village next hokage and killing him
Attacking his former teammate

Now tell me son what did the kage do that were awful as those

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Understanding the messed up Shinobi World from first hand experince,having the power to change things,and having fought to save the world from its greatest enemies deosn't make a good leader?

You don't even know exactly what Sasuke wants to do yet you're disagreeing with it.


By going evil,i meant his actions,like Killing that girl in chapter 100 (IIRC) by having her burn to death.That was a creul and painful way to die.He could of made it less harmful for her.

The important idea is " you're nothing but a human "

 

[Reflection]

Yes I do.
I haven't said that. He may make some idk. Point is the Kage have.
He redeemed himself by helping in the war

It's like you can 't read Lol





The history if Revolutions say otherwise.

Actually I agree because of his current actions. Have fun insulting me. Lol

What do you mean the history of revolutions say otherwise? A one-man revolution is unprecedented, which is the entire reason why I know most people wouldn't agree with him initially. Do you know what a revolution is? It is an action taken to overthrow a system and like I said before in my other post, no one would agree with his revolt to kill the Hokages and the tailed beasts other than Hebi. They may agree that the history of the current system is screwed but they won't agree with Sasuke's method to create a new one.

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

I'll repost something i said earlier - OP,Jeen,And Pumpkin,can you intelligently counter this.

"Why do some people think no one will be on Sasuke's side? Have you ever even thought for the slightest of seconds about all the Non-Shinobi in the world? All the Non-Shinobi are not going to like that once again,the Shinobi world had another World War,and this time they were forced into it (Infinite Tsukuyomi).

They will want the messed up Shinobi World and System to change aswell,and if they see the Guy who fought against the people who forced the world into Genjutsu/saved the world from that Genjutsu by ending it himself(?) Also wants to change the messed up Shinobi World/System,then who's side do you think they will be on?

"The Shinobi Nations are Allied now"

The Shinobi nations who have been constantly fighting against each other for years getting into multiple world wars and now teaming up for a couple days to fight against some people who were a threat to them all isn't a good enough reason to believe that they will continue to cooperate after the war."

 

[BLAZE]

Ohhh what did the kage do that was that awful ?
Let me remind you of those little stuff that sasuke did Lol

Leave his village

Join the village worst enemy that killed the 3th hokage
Joined a terrorist organization who are the world worst enemies
Attacked an innocent jinchuriki to do a job for akatsuki
Killed innocent samurai that were only doing their work to protect the kage
Attacking the village next hokage and killing him
Attacking his former teammate

Now tell me son what did the kage do that were awful as those

Ohnoki and Gaara's dad financed Akatsuki thus leading to its current status and thus in a way being part of Sasuke's corruption :snick:

 

[Trúth]

Ohhh what did the kage do that was that awful ?
Let me remind you of those little stuff that sasuke did Lol

Leave his village

Join the village worst enemy that killed the 3th hokage
Joined a terrorist organization who are the world worst enemies
Attacked an innocent jinchuriki to do a job for akatsuki
Killed innocent samurai that were only doing their work to protect the kage
Attacking the village next hokage and killing him
Attacking his former teammate

Now tell me son what did the kage do that were awful as those

Sure. A- people from kumo were sent to kidnap Hinata for the byakugan. When the intruder was killed, Neji's father was sacrificed even though he did nothing. Kumo had no right to wage war over the death of a shinobi trying to kidnap and kill a 3 yr old from Konoha for Byakugan. That was disgusting and it was never corrected. Plus, they use Akatsuki, or rather hired them for missions.

Onoki- Started the 3rd Shinobi war

Like I already said the rest are mostly innocent but simply don't fit Sasuke's definition of a Kage.

What do you mean the history of revolutions say otherwise? A one-man revolution is unprecedented, which is the entire reason why I know most people wouldn't agree with him initially. Do you know what a revolution is? It is an action taken to overthrow a system and like I said before in my other post, no one would agree with his revolt to kill the Hokages and the tailed beasts other than Hebi. They may agree that the history of the current system is screwed but they won't agree with Sasuke's method to create a new one.

You realize that people are trapped in IT atm? When Sasuke frees them and begins his Revolution he'd have plenty of support.

 

[BLAZE]

Sure. A- people from kumo were sent to kidnap Hinata for the byakugan. When the intruder was killed, Neji's father was sacrificed even though he did nothing. Kumo had no right to wage war over the death of a shinobi trying to kidnap and kill a 3 yr old from Konoha for Byakugan. That was disgusting and it was never corrected. Plus, they use Akatsuki, or rather hired them for missions.

Onoki- Started the 3rd Shinobi war

Like I already said the rest are mostly innocent but simply don't fit Sasuke's definition of a Kage.

tried to Kidnap Kushina too but when his brother got kidnapped[turn out to be Killer bee's drama] A's @$$ burned hard

 

[Pumpkin Ninja]

I'll repost something i said earlier - OP,Jeen,And Pumpkin,can you intelligently counter this.

"Why do some people think no one will be on Sasuke's side? Have you ever even thought for the slightest of seconds about all the Non-Shinobi in the world? All the Non-Shinobi are not going to like that once again,the Shinobi world had another World War,and this time they were forced into it (Infinite Tsukuyomi).

They will want the messed up Shinobi World and System to change aswell,and if they see the Guy who fought against the people who forced the world into Genjutsu/saved the world from that Genjutsu by ending it himself(?) Also wants to change the messed up Shinobi World/System,then who's side do you think they will be on?

"The Shinobi Nations are Allied now"

The Shinobi nations who have been constantly fighting against each other for years getting into multiple world wars and now teaming up for a couple days to fight against some people who were a threat to them all isn't a good enough reason to believe that they will continue to cooperate after the war."

There are new Kages in power since those times so your argument doesn't really work. They've even connected on a more personal level compared to the other Kages.
Also, although many will agree, many will disagree. How long will the war last? How much lives need to be lost for this "revolution" that may or may not work. Naruto has given the entire SA hope, meaning they are all on his side. They didn't even know IT turns you into white zetsu, yet they still didn't wanted what was thought at the time as eternal peace because they didn't want to be ruled under one crazy f*ck even when odds were against them, what makes you think they'll accept Sasuke's plan? The majority has spoken.

 

[Trúth]

tried to Kidnap Kushina too but when his brother got kidnapped[turn out to be Killer bee's drama] A's @$$ burned hard

Yep. Left that one out. Lol

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Sure. A- people from kumo were sent to kidnap Hinata for the byakugan. When the intruder was killed, Neji's father was sacrificed even though he did nothing. Kumo had no right to wage war over the death of a shinobi trying to kidnap and kill a 3 yr old from Konoha for Byakugan. That was disgusting and it was never corrected. Plus, they use Akatsuki, or rather hired them for missions.

Onoki- Started the 3rd Shinobi war

Like I already said the rest are mostly innocent but simply don't fit Sasuke's definition of a Kage.

Ok A kidnapped hinata (even tho we don't know iff he was the one who ordered them to) and used the akatsuki.

And onoiki

Now let's combine them and use your logic (sasuke fans logic Lol)

2+1= 3
Now sasuke has 6 major crimes let's take out 3 from each person

Ojhhhhhhhhh
Riiiiiiiight sasuke has 3 more major crimes XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD

Don't question it , you started it first

 

[BLAZE]

There are new Kages in power since those times so your argument doesn't really work. They've even connected on a more personal level compared to the other Kages.

lol Alliance have been made to broke in dat shinobi system for 100 years
btw just tell me which Kage do u think will abolish Child Soldier system :|

 

[Trúth]

Ok A kidnapped hinata (even tho we don't know iff he was the one who ordered them to) and used the akatsuki.

And onoiki

Now let's combine them and use your logic (sasuke fans logic Lol)

2+1= 3
Now sasuke has 6 major crimes let's take out 3 from each person

Ojhhhhhhhhh
Riiiiiiiight sasuke has 3 more major crimes XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD XD

Don't question it , you started it first

Hinata is't the only one. It was stated that he went around villages doing this. That wasn't my logic anyway. I was pointing out that the Kages crimes were worse.

Onnoki got thousands killed with his war. Don't be ridiculous.

 

[Javaweb]

The problem I have with Sasuke is that if he kill the Kages wouldn't people hate him. I mean a lot of people admire their Kage througout the war

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Ohnoki and Gaara's dad financed Akatsuki thus leading to its current status and thus in a way being part of Sasuke's corruption :snick:

And garaa dad was from this current kage generation lol you don't even know what are we talking about

We talking about the current kage man
And even so if you talking about the actions outcome I can list alot of them for sasuke

 

[Naruto X Hunter]

Ohhh what did the kage do that was that awful ?
Let me remind you of those little stuff that sasuke did Lol

Leave his village

Join the village worst enemy that killed the 3th hokage
Joined a terrorist organization who are the world worst enemies
Attacked an innocent jinchuriki to do a job for akatsuki
Killed innocent samurai that were only doing their work to protect the kage
Attacking the village next hokage and killing him
Attacking his former teammate

Now tell me son what did the kage do that were awful as those

Jeen you clearly don't understand the manga.

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Some of the Kages HIRED the Akatsuki for WAR.The Raikgae himself said it,and the Tschikage admitted to it.

The Raikage sent a grown man to kidnap a little girl (Hinata) on the day the PEACE TREATY was being celebrated

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Teenage boy invading Nation and attempting to Kidnap Grown Man and Bigass Monster >>>>>>>>>>>>> The Cloud sending Grown Men to invade Konoha and Kidnap little girls.

Then when his guy got killed he told Konoha to kill Hiashi because he killed his guy,and he threatened war if they didn't kill Hiashi.

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The Raikage sends grown men to invade Konoha and Kidnap alittle girl yet he gets super rustled when he hears Sasuke Kidnapped Bee.Lmao.
And are you forgetting about the mudering Kazekage Gaara? He murdered people and was a major part in the Konoha invasion yet he still becomes a Kage yet Sasuke can't become a Leader? Lol

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Hinata is't the only one. It was stated that he went around villages doing this. That wasn't my logic anyway. I was pointing out that the Kages crimes were worse.

Onnoki got thousands killed with his war. Don 't be ridiculous.

Still is 1 crime you don't see me saying sasuke tried to attack kakashi, sakura and naruto there for its 3 crimes and no his crimes were worse it's just that you being sasuke fan effects your opinion

And onnoki isn't the only one half of the responsibility goes for his enemy

 

[Reflection]

Sure. A- people from kumo were sent to kidnap Hinata for the byakugan. When the intruder was killed, Neji's father was sacrificed even though he did nothing. Kumo had no right to wage war over the death of a shinobi trying to kidnap and kill a 3 yr old from Konoha for Byakugan. That was disgusting and it was never corrected. Plus, they use Akatsuki, or rather hired them for missions.

Onoki- Started the 3rd Shinobi war

Like I already said the rest are mostly innocent but simply don't fit Sasuke's definition of a Kage.

You realize that people are trapped in IT atm? When Sasuke frees them and begins his Revolution he'd have plenty of support.

No lol. Killing Naruto, the Kages while in IT, and the tailed beasts IS the REVOLUTION. Once he frees them from IT, there will be no revolt or rebellion needed because the impediments of creating the new system are already killed/overthrown (i.e Naruto, Kages, tailed beasts). And besides do you think the villages will just side with him after he's like "Oh I killed your leaders because they represented a bad history of leadership, lets create a new system"?
Ermmm... No. A new revolution will break out before the one Sauce implemented barely began! UNLESS, he forces them to adhere, which means it would be an autocracy like I said before. Silly Sausage fanboy.

 

[BLAZE]

And garaa dad was from this current kage generation lol you don't even know what are we talking about

We talking about the current kage man
And even so if you talking about the actions outcome I can list alot of them for sasuke

No i just put him there with Ohnoki becoz he was esponsible too :|

 

[Trúth]

Still is 1 crime you don't see me saying sasuke tried to attack kakashi, sakura and naruto there for its 3 crimes and no his crimes were worse it's just that you being sasuke fan effects your opinion

And onnoki isn't the only one half of the responsibility goes for his enemy

See the post above you.

No lol. Killing Naruto, the Kages while in IT, and the tailed beasts IS the REVOLUTION. Once he frees them from IT, there will be no revolt or rebellion needed because the impediments of creating the new system are already killed/overthrown (i.e Naruto, Kages, tailed beasts). And besides do you think the villages will just side with him after he's like "Oh I killed your leaders because they represented a bad history of leadership, lets create a new system"?
Ermmm... No. A new revolution will break out before the one Sauce implemented barely began! UNLESS, he forces them to adhere, which means it would be an autocracy like I said before. Silly Sausage fanboy.

We're done here.